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The Japanese Imperial women are so graceful and elegant! 
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11-03-2014, 08:21 PM
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I've only just realised how rare it is to see people curtsy to the Dutch King & Queen given that its not done in The Netherlands itself.
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11-04-2014, 08:58 AM
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Dame Quentin Bryce curtseying to Her Majesty The Queen at Buckingham Palace.
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11-07-2014, 08:16 AM
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A complete Bowing/curtseying/kissing/Handshaking festival from 2012 :
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11-07-2014, 08:44 AM
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I've only just realised how rare it is to see people curtsy to the Dutch King & Queen given that its not done in The Netherlands itself.
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In the video below, you can see Princess Diana and, I believe, Princess Anne curtsying to Queen Beatrix. Note that they don't curtsy to Prince Claus, who, being an HRH, is equal in rank to them.
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11-07-2014, 08:55 AM
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BTW, I also found some old British Path footage of Queen Juliana's inauguration (incorrectly referred to in the video title as "coronation") and, as you can see, the congregation bows/curtsies both to Queen Juliana and to Princess (former Queen) Wilhelmina. I suppose it was only during Juliana's reign that curtsying was abandoned in the Netherlands.
In case you are interested, there is also footage of Queen Juliana's 1950 visit to the UK where we see Princess Ellizabeth and Princess Margaret curtsying to the Dutch queen.
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11-07-2014, 09:27 AM
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In the video below, you can see Princess Diana and, I believe, Princess Anne curtsying to Queen Beatrix. Note that they don't curtsy to Prince Claus, who, being an HRH, is equal in rank to them.
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Back in the old days there were several members of the royal family participating in the official welcoming of a State Visit. I don't know what happened to that.
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11-07-2014, 11:59 AM
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In the video below, you can see Princess Diana and, I believe, Princess Anne curtsying to Queen Beatrix. Note that they don't curtsy to Prince Claus, who, being an HRH, is equal in rank to them.
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But shouldn't the consort of a monarch be it male or female share the rank of his/her partner?
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11-07-2014, 12:17 PM
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A complete Bowing/curtseying/kissing/Handshaking festival from 2012 :
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Thanks for the video!
It was nice to see monarchs in a semi-private environment.
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Thanks for the photos!
Curtsies by Japanese Imperial Princesses are perfect.
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11-07-2014, 12:33 PM
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But shouldn't the consort of a monarch be it male or female share the rank of his/her partner?
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In most countries, a wife takes the rank of her husband but the reverse isn't true so a husband doesn't take the rank of the wife.
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11-07-2014, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbruno
BTW, I also found some old British Path footage of Queen Juliana's inauguration (incorrectly referred to in the video title as "coronation") and, as you can see, the congregation bows/curtsies both to Queen Juliana and to Princess (former Queen) Wilhelmina. I suppose it was only during Juliana's reign that curtsying was abandoned in the Netherlands.
In case you are interested, there is also footage of Queen Juliana's 1950 visit to the UK where we see Princess Ellizabeth and Princess Margaret curtsying to the Dutch queen.
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Princess Wilhelmina, Princess Juliana and Princess Beatrix, all of them reverted back to the style they held before their kingship. In protocol however all of them came directly after the monarch and had precedence before the underaged Heir. In the three Benelux monarchies the rvrence is not observed so there is no visible difference between greeting Queen Mxima or Princess Beatrix.
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11-07-2014, 01:11 PM
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In most countries, a wife takes the rank of her husband but the reverse isn't true so a husband doesn't take the rank of the wife.
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That is right ! The wife of a king becomes queen consort and takes her husband's rank, explaining why the Japanese princesses curtsied to Maxima.
If I am not mistaken, it was possible in the past for the husband of a reigning queen to take the title of "king consort" and the rank of "majesty". Philip II of Spain for example was made "king consort" of England in the reign of his wife, Mary I. Nowadays, however, the husband of a reigning queen is normally just a "prince consort" and takes therefore a lower rank, explaining why Princess Diana for example didn't curtsy to Prince Claus.
In another video below of Queen Beatrix's state visit to Spain, once again you see Infanta Elena and Infanta Cristina curtsying to Queen Beatrix, but not to Prince Claus (around 3:20 and also around 6:10).
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11-07-2014, 01:26 PM
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That is right ! The wife of a king becomes queen consort and takes her husband's rank, explaining why the Japanese princesses curtsied to Maxima.
If I am not mistaken, it was possible in the past for the husband of a reigning queen to take the title of "king consort" and the rank of "majesty". Philip II of Spain for example was made "king consort" of England in the reign of his wife, Mary I. Nowadays, however, the husband of a reigning queen is normally just a "prince consort" and takes therefore a lower rank, explaining why Princess Diana for example didn't curtsy to Prince Claus.
In another video below of Queen Beatrix's state visit to Spain, once again you see Infanta Elena and Infanta Cristina curtsying to Queen Beatrix, but not to Prince Claus (around 3:20 and also around 6:10).
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It is curious to see BTW that Queen Beatrix around 7:30 delivers her dinner speech in French, one of the languages she is fluent in along with English, German and, of course, Dutch. Usually, in most state visits, the Queen normally spoke in English, but maybe she assumed French would be closer to Spanish.
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11-07-2014, 01:51 PM
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Since male consort are afforded no precedence in Britain it must be assigned by the reigning Queen. During Victoria's reign there was talk of her wanting Parliament to create Albert 'King Consort' but the government for a variety of reasons shot down the idea.
The advice of her ministers was if Parliament could make a King then Parliament could 'unmake' a King and this wasn't a road Queen Victoria wanted to go down for obvious reasons.
She later settled on Prince Consort.
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Back in August, there was much discussion about Kate and William ignoring King Felipe at the Belgium WWI Commemoration Ceremony. I recently found a photo of William and King Felipe before the ceremony started. So William and Kate had already spoken to him before they got on stage.
Sorry I can't link the photo directly, you'll have to scroll down through the photos.
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Back in August, there was much discussion about Kate and William ignoring King Felipe at the Belgium WWI Commemoration Ceremony. I recently found a photo of William and King Felipe before the ceremony started. So William and Kate had already spoken to him before they got on stage.
Sorry I can't link the photo directly, you'll have to scroll down through the photos,
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Thank you for directing me over here, Soapstar. I see now. 
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Bernadette Chirac curtseys to Prince Moulay Rachid of Morocco's wife yesterday (video, 0:42)
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