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. . . . . By the way, it is not at all required to make a deep fall to the earth. A minimal knick in combination with a little bow is equally effective and much more elegant: Sophia Loren towards Princess Magraret:
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I do believe that Sophia's "curtsey" reflected the times in Europe . . . Princesses and Princes (many impoverished) were a dime a dozen from places that no longer had monarchies. Or, as I prefer to think, it may be more a sense of who's who . . . Diva's have there own sense of self-importance and Sophia had her standards!
05/11/1957 of Sophia Loren who curtseys whilst shaking hands with Queen Elizabeth II at the Royal Film Performance of 'Les Girls' at the Odeon, Leicester Square, London. | Metro UK
A curtsey fit for a Queen.
I am utterly convinced that your stance on any "customs" of royalty (from hats and gloves to curtsies) is uniformly dismissive. If you are French then you do not have a royal family. This is not a problem. But I, as a member of the Commonwealth do and I have, and, should the opportunity present itself again, would again curtsey to members of the BRF. That is my heritage and custom. Performing a (men's) bow from the neck may work for you as a man but, as a woman I find it just doesn't cut it.
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10-09-2014, 12:55 PM
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Pictures of HGD Guillaume & HGD Stephanie Bowing and Curtsying to The Emperor & Empress of Japan-
https://ru-royalty.livejournal.com/2524492.html
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I do believe that Sophia's "curtsey" reflected the times in Europe . . . Princesses and Princes (many impoverished) were a dime a dozen from places that no longer had monarchies. Or, as I prefer to think, it may be more a sense of who's who . . . Diva's have there own sense of self-importance and Sophia had her standards!
05/11/1957 of Sophia Loren who curtseys whilst shaking hands with Queen Elizabeth II at the Royal Film Performance of 'Les Girls' at the Odeon, Leicester Square, London. | Metro UK
A curtsey fit for a Queen.
I am utterly convinced that your stance on any "customs" of royalty (from hats and gloves to curtsies) is uniformly dismissive. If you are French then you do not have a royal family. This is not a problem. But I, as a member of the Commonwealth do and I have, and, should the opportunity present itself again, would again curtsey to members of the BRF. That is my heritage and custom. Performing a (men's) bow from the neck may work for you as a man but, as a woman I find it just doesn't cut it. |
Well said Marg and ITA w/you. As some know, I was beyond privileged and lucky to meet the late Princess Diana during her and Prince Charles' final visit to Canada in 1991 and if anyone had peeked in our kitchen window that morning, they would have thought I'd lost it. Why!?! Because all I was doing was practicing my curtsey over and over and over and... If I ended up meeting HRH, as she was still at that time, then I was going to be prepared and well prepared at that!!
Besides after all she did to raise awareness for AIDS and the Rights and Needs of Disabled People such as myself, I did not only bend my knee due to her being just HRH Diana, Princess of Wales, but also to show her the very great amount of respect I held for her then and still do to this day. If I ever have the incredible privilege to ever meet a Royal ever again, I will bend the knee again and willingly w/great pride too. I could care less how old fashioned it is, there are still things IMO you do because it's simply the right thing to do and I was raised that showing proper respect when called for it is never the wrong thing to do.
Only, if there is a next time for me, then God willing I won't be waiting for pretty major knee surgery, having to wear a knee brace to keep it from giving out on me *and then* being in such a daze it was really happening, forgetting I was not to put my full weight on it for anything, forget doing a curtsey and....
How on earth I didn't end up in a face plant on the floor... :o :)
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Lovely photos and wonderful to see TM both looking very well. :). Stephanie has a very graceful curtsey.
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10-10-2014, 12:33 AM
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Lovely, just lovely, Stephanie's gored dress enables her to execute perfectly graceful and elegant curtsey.
The Emperor and Empress are very, very, reserved, but the Empress looks delighted and Stephanie's expression is so radiently serene yet genuinely pleased to meet both she and her husband. I think, as the Americans are wont to say, Luxembourg lucked out when Guillaume married Stephanie.
Thanks for the pics Dman.
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It looks like something between a bow and a curtsey.
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10-10-2014, 01:33 PM
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It looks like something between a bow and a curtsey.
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I knew the forums would be all over this. Bowtsey! 
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10-10-2014, 06:20 PM
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 I'm guessing the disparity of height between HM and Angelina is one of the reason it looks odd and suspect she felt that as an American Citizen she shouldn't curstey . . . and then caved at the genuine warmth of the Queen's smile and gave a little dip.
For whatever reason I think her entire demeanor reflects a deep respect for both the Queen and the honour bestowed upon her. 
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Yes, just goes to show, if anyone royal newbies need lessons, CP Mette-Marit is the one to give it.
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10-24-2014, 06:29 AM
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I think she just does not know how to courtsey, and she preferred not to do it and become ridiculous. Nevertheless, I consider that she fully paid respect to the Queen, all her body language showed it.
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10-24-2014, 06:33 AM
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Yeah we don't do much curtseying here in the U.S.
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10-24-2014, 06:37 AM
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Do you forget President Obama curtseying the Emperor of Japan ??
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10-24-2014, 09:29 AM
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Thanks for correcting my curtsey to bow ; I am french speaking !
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10-24-2014, 09:38 AM
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It is funny. I do not especially like Mette-Marit, neither her style, I really consider that she is not regal at all. Nevertheless, when she curtsy, she is absolutely graceful, like if another person was doing it, she look really metamorphosed.
Furthermore, might be the Norwegian protocol, but I noticed MM curtsy very often, is it really normal to curtsy to President Obama, or in front of the Army (at the wedding of Guillaume and Stephanie)? I noticed the other CPss did not do so.
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It is funny. I do not especially like Mette-Marit, neither her style, I really consider that she is not regal at all. Nevertheless, when she curtsy, she is absolutely graceful, like if another person was doing it, she look really metamorphosed.
Furthermore, might be the Norwegian protocol, but I noticed MM curtsy very often, is it really normal to curtsy to President Obama, or in front of the Army (at the wedding of Guillaume and Stephanie)? I noticed the other CPss did not do so.
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The révérence was not in front of the army but in front of the regimental standard. All royals salute or make a nod with the head. Only Mette-Marit went down to her knees for a standard.
Pic: an example of royals greeting a regimental standard: http://www.refdag.nl/polopoly_fs/vaa...2035877392.jpg
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10-25-2014, 11:59 AM
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The révérence was not in front of the army but in front of the regimental standard. All royals salute or make a nod with the head. Only Mette-Marit went down to her knees for a standard.
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Yes, I've noticed that all royals bowed, ans only MM went down, but I do not know if it is the Norwegian protocol, or her own choice
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