Royals' Ex-Partners

[EIIR]

Originally Posted by Al_bina

Are you trying to say that the law firms in question were strongly urged to give a preference to Ms.Davy from a cheap university? Who urged the law firms to do so?

I'm not saying anything. You can make up your own mind whether two of the most prestigious law firms in the country took on a graduate of a university which ranks 27th in the league table of UK universities offering law because of her ability or because she was dating the Prince of Wales's son.

To be honest, though, I wouldn't hold it against her if one of the royals did put a good word in for her as it happens all the time. I studied law at university myself and came very close to deciding to do the Legal Practice Course (thank goodness I saw sense). I know from first hand experience, law is one of those professions in the UK where it helps hugely to know the 'right people'. Of my friends who did go on to become solicitors, they found it very difficult to get a training contract if they didn't have at least some contacts in the profession.

[Al_bina]

That does not surprise me. It is the way the British caste society functions. Ms. Davy should be duly lauded for seizing an opportunity.

[NGalitzine]

Regardless of her "royal connections" they did not get her through law school. That she had to do on her own and is an achievement for anyone.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by NGalitzine

Regardless of her "royal connections" they did not get her through law school. That she had to do on her own and is an achievement for anyone.

Nor did they get her either of her internships. She's done very well in her life, and should not be accused of using Harry when she hasn't.

This is a tough world, particularly the job world. If you truly think about it, one way or another, everyone has at least one advantage over an opponent for a job whether it be age, experience, money, knowledge etc. I got my first job because my CV was put to the top of a pile as my brother's best friend worked there. But by no means did he have any say in actually picking me for the job.

[EIIR]

None of us can say for sure she didn't get her training contract as a result of her royal connections. We're never likely to know either way.

I believe Leeds has a reputation as a bit of a party school, although not so much as Newcastle where Eugenie's studying. Both cities have very big club scenes. St. Andrews is such a small town that it couldn't really offer that kind of night life.

[Artemisia]

I strongly doubt a highly esteemed law firm such as Allen & Overy would ever consider hiring anyone just because she happens to be the girlfriend of a British Prince. Now, it is possible Chelsy was considered for a position because of her connections: all of us have used all connections from time to time. However, to me it seems certain that she actually got the job because of her brains and qualifications.

Knowing people can get some doors opened for you; however, it is ultimately your abilities that get you through.

[MARG]

Somehow I don't think a premier law firm can "afford" to employ Chelsy just because she is the ex girlfriend of the 3rd in line for the throne! Just think, if she were not up to the job, the damage she could do to the firm, it's clients and it's reputation.

There is an expectation of the type of person, the type of presentation and the type of execution one would expect from such a firm. "Party Chelsy" would definitely not make the cut, not even as the Tea Lady. So, I'll take a punt and say that she is earning her keep.

[EIIR]

Originally Posted by MARG

Somehow I don't think a premier law firm can "afford" to employ Chelsy just because she is the ex girlfriend of the 3rd in line for the throne! Just think, if she were not up to the job, the damage she could do to the firm, it's clients and it's reputation.

There is an expectation of the type of person, the type of presentation and the type of execution one would expect from such a firm. "Party Chelsy" would definitely not make the cut, not even as the Tea Lady. So, I'll take a punt and say that she is earning her keep.

You'd be surprised. More and more the role of the solicitor is to 'win business'. To do so you have to get access to the right people and companies. Having an employee with close links to the royal family and their aristocratic friends would certainly help.

I'm sure if she was useless she wouldn't last long. But her connections certainly don't hurt when it comes to getting a position is an extremely competitive job market.

[cepe]

for goodness sake she is an EX-GIRLFRIEND. Do you think any savvy company, especially a law firm would stake their reputation on a maybe??? Get a grip! You live in a fantasy world which bypasses the real one. You have no idea what you ar talking about - this is pure speculation and it is totally unfair on Chelsy. Give the poor girl some credit!

[Tyger]

Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

I think Harry would marry her tomorrow but she knows what she would have to give up - career, privacy, a life etc and isn't prepared to give up the right to make choices about her own life - to have things organised for her months in advance - to lose the spontaneity she has now.

Chelsy is way too smart for Harry and for the BRF - they wouldn't now how to deal with her.

Totally agree.

I recall seeing the few shots of her at William's and Kate's wedding and she looked seriously discomfited - not pleased at all. Now I'll grant you she may have been the worse for wear from the night before (always a popular theory to explain her total disregard/disdain for the cameras) - but she was watching as much as being watched - and I don't think she was charmed by the experience.

I agree with your last sentence, Iluvbertie - she is just simply too normal for the BRF. How's that for irony. However, she's an opportunity for the BRF, too, were they so inclined to see it - to embrace her, a bona fide career woman, a woman of her times and generation, it would truly modernize the monarchy.

However, she would have to make some effort with the cameras snapping in her direction. She's refreshingly oblivious now but she would have to pay attention at some point - or - maybe not. She is who she is and seems to be not concerned with what the rest of us think. One never knows what's really afoot with someone.

She may wind up being one of those women who never marries - one of Charles' old girlfriends that he was keen to marry but declined - never married. So - maybe here, too. The friendship with Harry will be a deep one and have its own very personal story-line not available to the tabloids.

[Mirabel]

Am I the only person who thinks that, if Harry were to propose, Chelsy would jump at it?

If she really wanted to focus exclusively on her career, I think she'd have done her training in South Africa. She is known to prefer the lifestyle there, so why remain in London, if not because she isn't ready to give up on Harry?

But I think Harry is wary, and I suspect the RF is more wary!
There was all that negative publicity about her father, and pictures of her generally show her stumbling out of clubs and parties looking the worse for wear.

If he marries her, get ready for Fergie part 2.

[KittyAtlanta]

Originally Posted by EIIR

You'd be surprised. More and more the role of the solicitor is to 'win business'. To do so you have to get access to the right people and companies. Having an employee with close links to the royal family and their aristocratic friends would certainly help.

I'm sure if she was useless she wouldn't last long. But her connections certainly don't hurt when it comes to getting a position is an extremely competitive job market.

Chelsy would not be a "rainmaker" for a law firm. That is the job of the partners. She would be doing legal research for a number of years and depending what type of cases she was assigned, she may never go to trial.

I do agree that her connections MIGHT enhance her possibilities with a firm. However, I don't think being a friend of Harry's or even being an ex-girlfriend, would carry much weight.

[EIIR]

Originally Posted by Mirabel

Am I the only person who thinks that, if Harry were to propose, Chelsy would jump at it?

If she really wanted to focus exclusively on her career, I think she'd have done her training in South Africa. She is known to prefer the lifestyle there, so why remain in London, if not because she isn't ready to give up on Harry?

But I think Harry is wary, and I suspect the RF is more wary!
There was all that negative publicity about her father, and pictures of her generally show her stumbling out of clubs and parties looking the worse for wear.

If he marries her, get ready for Fergie part 2.

Being qualified to practice law in England and Wales doesn't necessarily mean that you can't practice elsewhere. Quite often, particularly in the Far East, major multi-nationals choose to conduct their legal transactions using English law as the governing law, so there's strong demand for solicitors qualified in England.

Other common law countries, such as Australia, actually allow English qualified lawyers to work there without requalifying, although if you want to requalify it's pretty easy and straight forward. It wouldn't surprise me if South Africa was the same.

When the big firms take on trainees they're more or less thrown in the deep end from the start. I have an old school friend who started with one of the 'second tier' law firms in London. She started on a high salary but she was working 18 hour days, sleeping in her office, working weekends etc. In her first few months she was working on the multimillion pound acquisition of a medium sized supermarket chain by one of the 3 big British supermarkets. They don't ease you in.

[Mirabel]

Originally Posted by EIIR

When the big firms take on trainees they're more or less thrown in the deep end from the start. I have an old school friend who started with one of the 'second tier' law firms in London. She started on a high salary but she was working 18 hour days, sleeping in her office, working weekends etc. In her first few months she was working on the multimillion pound acquisition of a medium sized supermarket chain by one of the 3 big British supermarkets. They don't ease you in.

That doesn't seem to be the case with Chelsy; it seems she has plenty of time to go clubbing, etc.

[Artemisia]

How many pictures of Chelsy clubbing have you seen lately? I have seen her out with her friends only handful of times - and any person of her age, no matter what job they hold, can say exactly the same thing. Just because she is a lawyer doesn't mean she cannot have a life.

[LadyFinn]

Prince Carl Philip's ex-girlfriend Emma Pernald and Tomas Jonson have got engaged. Emma's mother acknowledged the news to Aftonbladet. Emma has shown her ring to her friend and told that Tomas had proposed. The couple will have their first child in the autumn.
Carl Philips ex-flickvän förlovad | Nyheter | Aftonbladet

[Al_bina]

Kate Middleton's ex Rupert Finch nets Lady Natasha Rufus Isaacs | Mail Online

[Tyger]

Originally Posted by Al_bina

Kate Middleton's ex Rupert Finch nets Lady Natasha Rufus Isaacs | Mail Online

Man'o'man, what a hunk of a guy! They both look lovely. Happy day to see young love. (He's got a full head of hair, too!)

[soapstar]

Prince Harry's ex Chelsy Davy has been to a few events lately.

Last week she attended an event with her bother and today she attended the Cartier Queen's Cup Polo.

Shaun Davy And Chelsy Davy Attend The Veuve Clicquot At

Chelsy Davy is lovely in sky blue cocktail dress as she enjoys Cartier Queen's Cup Polo Day | Mail Online

[Tyger]

Originally Posted by soapstar

Chelsy Davy is lovely in sky blue cocktail dress as she enjoys Cartier Queen's Cup Polo Day | Mail Online

What? Chelsy Davy is lovely in sky blue cocktail dress as she enjoys Cartier Queen's Cup Polo Day You kidding me? That dress is rumpled and looks like absolutely nothing you would wear to any place other than the beach or one's own house. In fact that's exactly what it looks like - a bathing suit cover-up. Is this an attempt at rehabilitation? Was it Chelsy on the back of Harry's motorcycle 6 months ago when he got stopped?

Chelsy's a hoot!

The 26-year-old looked relaxed and pretty in a sky blue cocktail dress at the Cartier Queen's Cup Polo today at Guards Polo Club in Windsor. Her simple frock sported pretty gold and blue straps, and she completed the summery look with espadrille wedges. [ ]

Chelsy's dress complemented her light tan, and she didn't appear to be wearing much make-up, resulting in a fresh natural effect. She appeared to be having a good time, smiling and chatting to the other guests - which included Her Majesty. [ ]

That is what we call 'good press'. Love it! It begins.

Chelsy won't be some people's cup-of-tea - that face conjures too much - but I think she is very interesting. One thing is clear - she has proved herself - she is absolutely discreet. Not one foot wrong - not really.