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Religious Observances of the Royals
As Head of the Church of England we often see images of Elizabeth II attending Church. How does it work for other monarchs? Given that most are in their current positions "by the grace of God" do they attend weekly services? Do they belong to a parish? Do they attend services with members of the public?
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Maybe they have weekly services in the palaces.. I don't know for sure. 
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The late Emperor of Vietnam used to attend Catholic Mass and Cao Dai services weekly both in Vietnam and in exile.
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many palaces have chapels in them in which royals may worship. And for the Muslim monarchs, they pray five times a day, and probably have prayer mats around their palaces.
Most royals attend services on important holidays, such as Christmas, when we see the Norwiegian and British Royals, for example.
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The Netherlands
In the Netherlands the religion of the Sovereign and of her family is a completely private matter. The Netherlands Constitution guarantees the Freedom of Faith and this stretches out to the person of the Sovereign as well.
Not much is known about their religious life. It is known that Queen Beatrix has a deep religiosity. She sometimes does attend services in the Cloister Church in The Hague, a very old mediaeval and sober building build in 1393.
The religious life of the other members of the royal family is even more private and invisible. So now and then the Prince of Orange and his catholic spouse Princess Máxima do attend a roman-catholic Mass, see picture.
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The Prince of Orange invites a bible class at his villa to, every other month or so. Ds. C. ter Linden attends as well, as do some of the couples friends. At least that was what Ds. told himself in a tv-programme (I think one of RKK but I am not sure).
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how about in japan? does the imperial family attend any shintoist/buddhist festivities often? does the emperor have to be the head of any shintoist/buddhist group?
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how about in japan? does the imperial family attend any shintoist/buddhist festivities often? does the emperor have to be the head of any shintoist/buddhist group?
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The Emperor, the Empress and members of the Imperial family often are 'installed' in lengthy ancient Shinto rites which are fairly only known to the priests officiating these.
Remember the wedding of the Crown Prince with miss Masako Owada and remember the recent 'dedication' of Prince Hisahito to the Sun Goddess Ameratsu.
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Royals and Religion
Can we have a little chat about who the "religious" royals are? I"ll leave the definition of religiosity up to you. King Baudouin comes to mind. Who else?
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Can we have a little chat about who the "religious" royals are? I"ll leave the definition of religiosity up to you. King Baudouin comes to mind. Who else?
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HM Queen Elizabeth II is a staunch and orthodox Christian.
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King Baudouin, Queen Fabiola, Princess Astrid, Prince Lorenz of Belgium
Usually the "Catholic" Monarchies like Spain, Belgium, Luxembourg, Monaco are more "open" in religiosity
For example:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...edinacelli.jpg
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Infanta Cristina presenting her respects to:
(A) Christ of Medinacelli, Madrid
(B) Saint James the Greater, Compostela
(C) Virgen of la Mercé, Barcelona
(EFE)
You'll never see "Protestant" Royals doing this kind of thing because the foundations of the faiths are different, at least in what it comes to the adoration of saints and holy places
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The Jordanian Royal Family are descendants of the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) and various members have been photographed performing Hajj or Umrah.
The other Arab Royals are all muslim and equally dedicated to their faith.
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Bible Class with his fellow students
A few weeks ago there was a televized interview with the Court Chaplain, ds. C. ter Linden, who also officiated the wedding of Prince Willem-Alexander and Princess Máxima.
He told that already for 18 years or so, Prince Willem-Alexander still has monthly meetings with his fellow-students from Leyden University. He told that the Prince and his mates do read and study the Bible and tell to each other how they practize christian principles in their lives. The most special thing is that these once 20-24 year old guys all have become 38-42 years now and have witnessed each other careers, marriages, family lifes, happy and sad events, etc. and can discuss it. The most remarkable is that no one of these guys ever has been indiscreet.
The (roman-catholic) Princess Máxima has so now and then attended a meeting, but it seems to be a fairly 'men-only' occasion.
This is a quite not-known side of the Prince's personality. He attachs great importance to these meetings and he always makes time in his agenda for this Bible Class.
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Henri: Thanks much for the information. This is the first I have heard of Prince Willem-Alexander's spiritual practice. 
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No she isn't. She's a staunch protestant.
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Emperor Akihito is the head of the Shinto Religion.
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02-20-2007, 02:16 AM
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No she isn't. She's a staunch protestant.
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It seems to be becoming more and more common these days that devout Protestants are referred to as orthodox (please note the lowercase "o"). It isn't the same as Orthodox; it's just a way of saying that the person's faith is traditional rather than liberal or "new age" Christianity. I think Srivishnu was just saying that Her Majesty is a traditional Christian, unlike for example Prince Charles, who seems to have a hefty dollop of mysticism in his faith.
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One question: is there any royal who's an atheist or doesn't belong to a particular religion?
In my mind the concepts of religion and royalty have always been linked 
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It seems to be becoming more and more common these days that devout Protestants are referred to as orthodox (please note the lowercase "o"). It isn't the same as Orthodox; it's just a way of saying that the person's faith is traditional rather than liberal or "new age" Christianity.
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I think it's better to call them old-fashioned or old-school Protestants than Ortodox to stop the confusion about those terms.
QEII is a very old-fashioned Protestant, very pious on her ways
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