Royals and Religion

[Beck]

Originally Posted by Lord of Cowley

Mari: I believe the British Royals are descended from the Prophet Mohammed.

How are they

[fandesacs2003]

Originally Posted by Nouvelle

It can be true because Letizia had only civil marriage with her first husband. If she was catholic she would marry him in the church. But I don't understand it. Did she meet Felipe and believe in God so quickly? On the other side it would be weird

I do not believe that she has changed her opinion, she just behaviors like a Princess of Asturias. Spanish Monarchy is a Catholic Monarchy, and Letizia respect this,

Funny thing She was lucky to be atheist and to marry witha civil 1st marriage. If she had a 1st marraige in the Church, would she be allowed to marry Felipe, towards the Catholic Church???

Interesting point. Does someone have a clue???

What is the opinion of our Spanish friends??
Calorine was not allowed to marry Stefano Casiraghi in the Church, and her children were considered illegitimate, befire the annulation of her wedding with Philipe Junot

[Elspeth]

Originally Posted by Beck

How are they

Check out post 20.

[fandesacs2003]

Originally Posted by Elspeth

The Prophet Mohammed, the founder of Islam. There are claims that Eleanor of Castile, the wife of Edward I, was descended from the Prophet, although I don't know how much verification there is for the claims.

Ho thanks Elspeth, this is a fascinating information,

I've searched for her, hereunder the link, but long to verify.

Pedigree for Eleanor of Castile, Comtesse de Ponthieu

Thanks to Leo

[Empress]

Beatrixfan - I believe that you will find that christianity is a term that means a religion that believes in ONE god, and centered on the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. (see here) The Hebrew bible (or Torah) is what comprises the Old Testament of the King James bible, or the bible that all Christian religions follow.

Chrisitian religions encompass the following - Eastern Chrisitian, Oriental Orthodox, Syriac Christianity, Eastern Catholic,Western Catholicism, Protestantism, Anabaptism, Lutheranism, Calvinism, Anglicanism, Baptist, Methodist, Evagelicalism, Fundamentalism, Unitarian Universalist, Liberalism, Adventism, Pentecost, Latter-Day Saints, Christian Science, Jehovah's Witness, and finally Unity Church.

Thus whether just plain Protestant or Anglican the Queen is still a Christian. Furthermore, since the Church of England was dirived from the history of the Roman Catholic church, she is without doubt a christian.

The following is taken from Wikipedia:

There is a diversity of doctrines and practices among groups calling themselves Christian. These groups are sometimes classified under denominations, though for theological reasons many groups reject this classification system.[80] Christianity may be broadly represented as being divided into three main groupings:[81]

• Roman Catholicism: The Roman Catholic Church, the largest single body, includes the Latin Rite and totals more than 1 billion baptized members.[3]
• Eastern Christianity: Eastern Orthodox Churches, Oriental Orthodox Churches, the 100,000 member Assyrian Church of the East,[82] and others with a combined membership of more than 300 million baptized members.[3]
• Anglicanism: The Anglican Communion is a group of Anglican and Episcopal Churches that are descended from the Church of England. Most Anglicans don't consider themselves Protestant or Catholic but believe that the Church of England always existed and wasn't formed during the Reformation but rather broke away from the Church of Rome.
• Protestantism: Groups such as Lutherans, Reformed/Presbyterians, Congregational/United Church of Christ, Evangelical, Charismatic, Baptists, Methodists, Nazarenes, Anabaptists, Seventh-day Adventists and Pentecostals. The oldest of these separated from the Roman Catholic Church in the 16th century Protestant Reformation, followed in many cases by further divisions. Estimates of the total number of Protestants are very uncertain, partly because of the difficulty in determining which denominations should be placed in this category, but it seems to be unquestionable that Protestantism is the second major branch of Christianity (after Roman Catholicism) in number of followers.[3]

.... more here

[Empress]

Personally, I have issues with believing that the British Royal family is descended from Muhammed. I have just finished reading a short biography on every Queen of England since the beginning of the entire thing, and can find no where that implies that any Queen had eastern blood. At best, that would have come from a Spanish royal who had married a moor, but I can't find any record of that either. Or at least not one with connections to the BRF. If anyone knows anything different please let me know.

[chuchu]

Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

I do not believe that she has changed her opinion, she just behaviors like a Princess of Asturias. Spanish Monarchy is a Catholic Monarchy, and Letizia respect this,

Funny thing She was lucky to be atheist and to marry witha civil 1st marriage. If she had a 1st marraige in the Church, would she be allowed to marry Felipe, towards the Catholic Church???

Interesting point. Does someone have a clue???

What is the opinion of our Spanish friends??
Calorine was not allowed to marry Stefano Casiraghi in the Church, and her children were considered illegitimate, befire the annulation of her wedding with Philipe Junot

I am not a Spaniard but I am a Catholic. Letizia would not be allowed to marry Felipe in the Catholic Church if she was married in the Catholic Church for her first marriage. The first marriage would have to be annuled before she could remarry in the Church.

[crisiñaki]

The SRF is very strict about the Catholic faith

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[angiep]

The Duchess of Kent is known to be a very religious Catholic woman. She joined the Catholic church several years ago. I remember it made news when she did it because the British Royal family are not Catholics. It was also reported that she was guiding Princess Diana during her troubles and she was considering joining the Catholic church as well. Whether that is true or not, I don't know.

[Aquarela]

In my opinion, Princess Mathilde seems to have strong religious beliefs.

I think Princess Mary is a devout christian too.

About Queens: I read that Queen Sofia has a close relationship with God.

[BeautyLeonor]

I think Queen Sofia is very religious.
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[Henri M.]

Males: The Prince of Orange (already since his confirmation -and still- faithfully following bible class with his year-mates from university, including discussion- and reading weekends under direction of the Court Chaplain)

Females: Queen Fabiola of the Belgians, the Nun-Queen

[acdc1]

How religious is Queen Margrethe? She seemed to have memorized the words to some of the songs at Isabella's christening, so I just wondered.

Originally Posted by Henri M.

Males: The Prince of Orange (already since his confirmation -and still- faithfully following bible class with his year-mates from university)

Females: Queen Fabiola of the Belgians, the Nun-Queen

What religion is Prince of Orange?

[Henri M.]

Originally Posted by acdc1

What religion is Prince of Orange?

Protestant. With a Roman-Catholic spouse.
But with three Protestant daughters.

[Regina]

Grand Duchess of Luxembourg Maria Teresa is a very devout Roman-Catholic.

Henri M, do you know if Maxima attends catholic ceremonies (at Sundays, for instance)? Thanks in advance. :)

[crisiñaki]

Males:
Willem-Alexander
Philippe

Females:
Queen Sofia
CPss Mathilde

[Henri M.]

Yes, the Princess did (and does) attend Roman Catholic ceremonies.

But, as ist the case for all Dutchmen and -women, also the religion of members of the Royal House is a private affair. The royal family has an own family-chapel at Het Loo Palace so we don't know what happens there at Sundays. In the 1950's and 1960's the present weekend retreat of the Queen was used as a meeting point for religious leaders and experts, to still the hunger and interest of Queen Juliana and her mother in religious affairs.

In Noordeinde Palace (the Queen's official residence in The Hague) there used to be a Russian Orthodox Chapel, build for Queen Anna Paulovna, by birth a Russian Grand Duchess.

In Huis ten Bosch Palace (the Queen's private residence in The Hague) there used to be an Anglican Chapel, build for Anne Princess of Orange, by birth a Princess of Great Britain and Hannover, The Princess Royal. Nowadays it is in use as one of the ballrooms.

The Prince of Orange and Princess Máxima of the Netherlands are greeted at the Cathedral of Saint Bavo in Haarlem

Princess Máxima of the Netherlands attends Holy Mass in the Cathedral of the Saints Laurentius and Elisabeth in Rotterdam

Princess Máxima of the Netherlands reads the Holy Gospel in the family chapel at Het Loo Palace

[Duke of Marmalade]

Two very religious Queens come to my mind, Sofia of Spain and Fabiola of Belgium.

Don't think the younger generation was as devoted as some among the older generation and some monarchies put more emphasis on the issue than others, eg Spain or Belgium, see above. I believe Mathilde was already pretty much practising her belief but Letizia had to catch up a bit because the SRF is kind of a stronghold of catholizism.
Not sure about the Protestant Houses, they are a bit more tolerant, I believe, eg it's ok that Maxima remains a Catholic with the kids becoming Protestants.

[Regina]

Thanks Henri!

[Nichola]

I'm not sure who is the most religious.

QEII seems very religious. She attends Sunday service each week and has mentioned her faith in speeches.