Royal Twins

[magnik]

Originally Posted by Emmy

What happens if twins are born as the first two children of a monarch/heir?

There were and are few royal/princely twins born as the other children. I can't find if there ever were firstoborn twins.

Does the 'firstborn' twin get the throne? Toss of a coin?

Born as a first of the twins get the throne. But it depend of the sex of the firstborn twin and where they - twins are/would born.

[Lady Jennifer]

Originally Posted by magnik

Born as a first of the twins get the throne. But it depend of the sex of the firstborn twin and where they - twins are/would born.

But the sex of the twin doesn't really matter anymore, in most countries.

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[magnik]

Originally Posted by Lady Jennifer

But the sex of the twin doesn't really matter anymore, in most countries.

Yes, but f.ex. in Spain (as now) or in the Liechtenstein (?) it has matter.
In many centuries for many of the countries was and still is only male primogeniture.

Are there any regulations about that - firstborn twins? I mean in country constitutions about RFamilies in Europe or in the other monarchies?

[morhange]

Princess Margarete of Prussia, daughter of Victoria, the Princess Royal (and granddaughter of Queen Victoria) gave birth to TWO sets of twins. She already had two sons from single births before having the two sets of twins in 1896 (Philipp and Wolfgang) and 1901 (Richard and Christoph). When the Queen heard about the first set of twins, she was said to have laughed about the sudden increase in great-grandchildren.

At the end of WW1, Finland wanted to establish a monarchy, so they elected Margarete's husband, Prince Friedrich Karl as king. Their two older sons had both been killed in WW1, so they only had their two sets of twins left. Wolfgang, the younger twin of the first set, was chosen as his father's heir to the Finnish throne, since he was at the time ready to go with his parents to Finland, while his elder twin brother was not. Under pressure from the Allies, who wouldn't accept a German prince as king of Finland, Friedrich Karl renounced the throne, and Finland abandoned the idea.

I know quite of a few of Queen Victoria's descendants had twins, but this is the only case I can think of where a set of twins had a more active role in the politics of a country, though in this case, it was the younger twin who was preferred over the older one!

[PrincessofEurope]

Are there many sets of royal twins? i know there are the young belgian twins but are there any others

[Henri M.]

Originally Posted by PrincessofEurope

Are there many sets of royal twins? i know there are the young belgian twins but are there any others

His Royal Highness Charles Hugues Xavier Marie Sixte Louis Robert Jean Georges Benoît Michel Duke of Parma and Piacenza, Prince de Bourbon
&
Her Royal Highness Irene Emma Elizabeth Duchess of Parma and Piacenza, Princess de Bourbon née Princess of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau, Princess of Lippe-Biesterfeld

Have four children, from which Princess Margarita and Prince Jaime are twins. Here is a recent picture of the twins, together with mr. Erik Hazelhoff Roelfsema, known as the 'Soldier of Orange', a former aide-de-camp to Queen Wilhelmina and a family-friend to the royal family.

His Royal Highness Carlos Xavier Bernardo Prince de Bourbon de Parme, Prince de Piacenza

Her Royal Highness Margarita María Beatriz Princess de Bourbon de Parme, Countess de Colorno

His Royal Highness Jaime Bernardo Prince de Bourbon de Parme, Count de Bardi

Her Royal Highness María Carolina Christina Princess de Bourbon de Parme, Countess de Colorno

[principessa]

I don't know, if it gives royal triplets. Can someone help me and post, if there are royal triplets and who they are?

[TheTruth]

The non reigning family of Waldeck and Pyrmont have triplets, born in 2004 : Zita-Florentine, Henry-Oscar and John-Moritz.

Link : Waldeck and Pyrmont Royal Family

[HMTLove23]

Another set include the house of Corsini.


3d) Alessandro (b.Islip 1 Dec 1957); m.Nassau, Bahamas 22 Feb 1992 Michelle von Kwiatowski

1e) Cosimo (b.New York 31 Dec 1994)
2e) Luisa (b.New York 31 Dec 1994)
3e) Mariuka (b.New York 31 Dec 1994)

from pages.prodigy.net/Ptheroff

[colynsmomma]

I was just wondering if there ever was a set of twins or triplets born into any of the royal houses? I dont remember hearing anything but I am not a follower of all the houses. And I was sure were to put this question so I put it in here. Thanks!!!

[magnik]

twins:

Belgium
Princes Nicolas and Aymeric 2005 (parents Princes Laurent and Clair)

Luxembourg
Princes Jean and Margaretha 1957 (parents Grand Dukes Jean and Josephine-Charlotte)
Princes Leopold and Charlotte 2000 (parents Princes Guillaume and Sibilla)

Bavaria
Princesses Elisabeth and Amalie 1801, Sophie and Marie 1805 (parents King Maximilian I and Queen Karoline)
Princesses Gabrielle and Charlotte 1931 (parents Dukes Albrecht and Maria)

Great Britain
I'm not sure about Queen Anne Stuart probably twins too in 1697.

France
Princesses Loiuse-Elisabeth and Henriette-Anne 1727 (parents Louis XV and Marie)
Princesses Victoire and Jeanne 1556 (parent Henri II and Catherine de Medici)

[colynsmomma]

Wow I though that there would be more. Thanks for the reply. I will look them up.

[lilytornado]

There are some more.
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ins-13778.html

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...wins-7283.html

[MAfan]

Friedrich Furst von Hohenzollern and Franz Joseph Prinz von Hohenzollern Emden 1891
Henriette and Josephine of Belgium 1870
Monika and Michaela of Austria 1954
Jaime and Margarita of Bourbon-Parma 1972
Dimitri and Michael of Yugoslavia 1958
Serge and Helene of Yugoslavia 1963

[magnik]

Any twins in noneuropean countries (not only in Japan)?

What about triples?

[magnik]

Few other twins:

from Egypt -Cleopatra Selene II and Alexander Helios (children of Cleopatra and Mark Antony)

from Spain - Berenguer Ramon II and Ramon Berenguer II Counts of Barcelona

from Hesse - Princes Philipe and Wolfgang of Hesse 1896 and Christoph and Richard of Hesse 1901 (great-grandsosns of Queen Victoria)

from Belgium - Princesses Josephine Marie and Henriette of Belgium 1870

from Spain/Netherlands -Princess Margaritaand Prince Jaime of Bourbon-Parma 1972 (mother Princess Irene of the Netherlands)

[principessa]

from Serbia HRH Prince Philip and HRH Prince Alexander (born 15.01.1982)

[morhange]

I don't think I've ever heard of any royal triplets...that would be amazing :)

There are a lot of royal twins though.

Princess Margaretha and Prince Jean of Luxembourg...Princes Nicolas and Aymeric of Belgium, Princesses Sara and Aisha of Jordan. I think William IV's wife gave birth to twin boys, but sadly they were both stillborn :(

[principessa]

Dear morhange,

here is a threat about royal triplets.

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ets-13771.html