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Old 06-15-2018, 03:46 PM
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Thank you, Lee-Z.

They are also related.

The world is a small village.

Henri is an uncle to Queen Elizabeth II, wow.
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In the end, it all comes down to the House of Oldenburg. When we go with the tradition that the father's heritage decides the name of the House his children come from, then the

are all members of the House of Oldenburg. When Queen Elizabeth dies, the UK will become part of it (no matter how they name hte house) because new king Charles' father is an Oldenburg, too.


So all people who were born either into one of those Houses or have a princess of one of those houses as an ancestor (including queen Elizabeth's descent from Alexandra of Denmark, who was queen consort of Edward VII.) are related to each other, even if through very far connections.



I'm sure there is no Royal House who does not have at least one marriage in the lines with an Oldenburg prince or princess.



Unfortunately that means they are all related with that German politician with the Nazi views named Beatrix von Storch, for she was a Duchess of Oldenburg before her marriage. I wonder what Otto von Habsburg would have said to this, as his son Georg is her brother-in-law (through Eilikia of Oldenburg, Beatrix' sister and George's wife).
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:20 PM
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Unfortunately that means they are all related with that German politician with the Nazi views named Beatrix von Storch, for she was a Duchess of Oldenburg before her marriage. I wonder what Otto von Habsburg would have said to this, as his son Georg is her brother-in-law (through Eilikia of Oldenburg, Beatrix' sister and George's wife).

Beatrix is not a sister of Eilika but a cousin. Eilika's sister is Tatiana who was once engaged to Prince Jean of France, Duke of Vendome and is now married to a french Count.
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:44 PM
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Also King Abdullah II of Jordan & King Mohammed VI of Morocco are 10000000000000000-times related, being both descendants of Prophet Muhammad
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Beatrix is not a sister of Eilika but a cousin. Eilika's sister is Tatiana who was once engaged to Prince Jean of France, Duke of Vendome and is now married to a french Count.

You are right. I have read that differently in German papers but I checked it now. They are cousins.
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There's a reason why Victoria was called the "Grandmother of Europe" & Christian IX is called the "father-in-law of Europe"
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In the end, it all comes down to the House of Oldenburg. When we go with the tradition that the father's heritage decides the name of the House his children come from, then the

are all members of the House of Oldenburg. When Queen Elizabeth dies, the UK will become part of it (no matter how they name hte house) because new king Charles' father is an Oldenburg, too.


So all people who were born either into one of those Houses or have a princess of one of those houses as an ancestor (including queen Elizabeth's descent from Alexandra of Denmark, who was queen consort of Edward VII.) are related to each other, even if through very far connections.



I'm sure there is no Royal House who does not have at least one marriage in the lines with an Oldenburg prince or princess.



Unfortunately that means they are all related with that German politician with the Nazi views named Beatrix von Storch, for she was a Duchess of Oldenburg before her marriage. I wonder what Otto von Habsburg would have said to this, as his son Georg is her brother-in-law (through Eilikia of Oldenburg, Beatrix' sister and George's wife).
The King of Sweden isn't an Oldenburg. We haven't had one on our throne since the early 1800s.
The Duke of Lauenburg & The King of Iceland were at different times during the 18-1900s the King of Denmark so while you are in a way correct they were not independent monarchies but countries & fiefs in union with the Danish crown.
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Yes, the Swedish branch went extinct in the male line in 1818 with the death of Charles XIII. At that time the throne passed to the house of Bernadotte.

The closest link now would be that Carl Gustaf's Aunt Ingrid married into the Danish branch of the line.
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Yes, the Swedish branch went extinct in the male line in 1818 with the death of Charles XIII. At that time the throne passed to the house of Bernadotte.

The closest link now would be that Carl Gustaf's Aunt Ingrid married into the Danish branch of the line.

Didn't Queen Victoria of Sweden have Oldenburg ancestors ? I think so, as she descended from Sophia Magdalena of Denmark.
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The King of Sweden isn't an Oldenburg. We haven't had one on our throne since the early 1800s.
Interesting! Thank you for pointing that out.
Maybe my wording was not helpful (I'm not a native speaker) but I wanted to point out that that family once reigned there and that all these people are descended from Oldenburgs or of their house, so they are related, no matter how far away that connection is.
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Interesting! Thank you for pointing that out.
Maybe my wording was not helpful (I'm not a native speaker) but I wanted to point out that that family once reigned there and that all these people are descended from Oldenburgs or of their house, so they are related, no matter how far away that connection is.
It is interesting that the Swedish posters are the most vocal about giving equal weight to patrilineal and matrilineal ancestry to determine one’s family, but they overlook the fact that King of Sweden descends matrilineally from the Oldenburgs.
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Didn't Queen Victoria of Sweden have Oldenburg ancestors ? I think so, as she descended from Sophia Magdalena of Denmark.
We were talking male line. But yes, Carl Gustaf's great-grandmother was descended from a cadet branch of the Oldenbergs. Her paternal grandmother was the daughter of Gustav IV of Sweden. Gustav IV was a member of 2 cadet branches of Oldenberg. His father Gustav III was a Holstein-Gottorp, a cadet branch that ruled Sweden until Gustav IV's uncle died, and the Bernadottes took power. His mother was of the main line of Oldenberg. Victoria's granddaughter Ingrid would marry back into the house of Oldenberg. Technically if we look at the cadet branches, we find other links like Sibylla.
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