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05-29-2020, 04:40 PM
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We have here a photo of the library at Stenhammar, that Queen Silvia seems have commandeered as her office:
https://files.svenskdam.se/uploads/f...320x694-lt.jpg
A bit dark for my taste, almost dusty.
I've never appreciated chairs in front of book-shelves. It only emphasize that the books are never read...
And the pattern. Either you add some pang with vivid colors or tone it way down. This doesn't work for me.
And the things on table belongs in the category of: Someone-gave-us-this-horror-where-do-we-place-it-I-know-at-Stenhammar-no-one-will-see-it-there.
Here is a room in serious need of an overhaul.
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05-29-2020, 05:05 PM
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Unfortunately Stenhammar is recently restored and redecorated so that overhaul will have to wait
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05-29-2020, 05:20 PM
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Hmm.
Queen Maxima's office is interesting.
I like her desk, it's stylish, but from a practical point of view a nightmare because it needs to be cleaned and polished every day. Her chair is pure style!
The container-thingy in the corner of the desk match fine.
The interesting bit is how the corner is utilized. At times there must be a lot of light coming in from the windows, so this crayon-like picture is a good contrast even though the motive isn't to my taste.
And who don't need a bookshelf within reach.
The windows are interesting. Is it for security/privacy reasons or to dim the light?
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05-29-2020, 05:45 PM
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I noticed the windows, the King's aren't doe in the same way so i doubt its a security thing. Personally I'd much rather be able to look unobstructed onto the beautiful gardens!
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05-29-2020, 08:05 PM
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The Countess of Wessex's cabinetry is almost an Oxford blue in colour giving it a modern feel. When I first saw Frederiks choice of modern art I didn't like any of it, back when the Palace was opened after the reno.
However, the reception room with the very large discombobulated world map covering an entire wall has grown on me. Also the room with the similiar style of Salvidor Dali I don't mind either.
I like just about everything that I have seen at Skaugum. I also like Willem Alexanders office, however I have to ask, where's the mess? These offices should be awash with paperwork , so they must have set them up nicely for the photos.
Thanks for the thread Muhler.
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05-29-2020, 09:39 PM
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05-30-2020, 01:46 AM
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Great thread!
Queen Letizia's white room would be hard for me to work in.
At the other end of the spectrum, the Prince of Wales's work space is a bit claustrophobic with so many jumbled things.
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05-30-2020, 04:20 AM
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Royal Lodge and Bagshot Park could hardly be more British country manor.
The only thing that irks my eye are the many carpets jumbled together on the floor.
They are no doubt very expensive carpets, but they don't come to their right when piled up like this. Fewer carpets but rotate them from time to time, that would work better I think.
The additional photos of the library at Stenhammar only confirmed my first impression. Dark, dusty and gloomy.
Where are the discreet lamps to break the darkness?
The living room works better. We can always discuss the colors but at least there is harmony.
But I do develop a rash whenever I see coffee cups on a table next to a fine book! Something with me having a past as bookbinder I guess.
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05-30-2020, 04:49 AM
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The pictures we have seen from Huis ten Bosch are not really the private quarters of the royal family. What we see are the King's reception room ("DNA salon"), the Queen's reception room (the salon with the amazingly colourful new woven wallhangings), the King's sobre bureau, the Queen's exuberant bureau and the blue library.
These are not the private quarters. There is a glass addition to the 17th C building, enlarging the Wassenaar Wing (the private wing, the The Hague Wing is for guests). This glass addition houses an ultra-moden appartment for the royal family, with fabulous panoramic view on the park. That is where their real house is. No one has ever seen any interior shot of it.
The same with Villa Eikenhorst. We have seen interior shots, but during an interview the King revealed that all the family's private rooms are on the first floor. The ground floor had a semi-public function.
It is hard to see, but on this picture, behind the royals, one can detect a glass addition at the building, It goes round the corner, like a ' L' and connects the traditional salons in the original building with a sort of glass penthouse on pillars, to enjoy the serene beauty of the lush green Park. That is the real private part. No pictures have ever been released.
See: https://imgw.rgcdn.nl/f7ab3049875845...7RfEADFsy7iVw2
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05-30-2020, 05:10 AM
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 No, but the reception and meeting rooms they use on a pretty much daily basis, has a personal touch by the individual users.
Also the official rooms where the royals have been directly involved in a renovation of refurnishing have a distinct personal touch.
I doubt we will ever see many photos of royal bedrooms and bathrooms, but living rooms, libraries, sitting rooms, offices, private kitchens and dining rooms that's something we do see from time to time.
I have several such examples in my archive to be posted here eventually.
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05-30-2020, 09:16 AM
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What I would be interested in: A comparison of the Danish and the Dutch!
I did read somewhere (pretty sure here in The Royal Forums), that the modern approach of the Dutch was inspired by Queen Margarethe II. style.
And I wonder, what the most conservative royal rooms in Europe are. I mean, the offical court of Liechtenstein-Vaduz looks very oldish, but I am sure they live in a much more modern interior. But who for sure doesn't?
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05-30-2020, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Muhler
Hmm.
Queen Maxima's office is interesting.
I like her desk, it's stylish, but from a practical point of view a nightmare because it needs to be cleaned and polished every day. Her chair is pure style!
The container-thingy in the corner of the desk match fine.
The interesting bit is how the corner is utilized. At times there must be a lot of light coming in from the windows, so this crayon-like picture is a good contrast even though the motive isn't to my taste.
And who don't need a bookshelf within reach.
The windows are interesting. Is it for security/privacy reasons or to dim the light?
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It made me chuckle that the photo frame is held together with tape.
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2BHR4FN/th...ws-2BHR4FN.jpg
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05-30-2020, 09:40 AM
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What I would be interested in: A comparison of the Danish and the Dutch!
I did read somewhere (pretty sure here in The Royal Forums), that the modern approach of the Dutch was inspired by Queen Margarethe II. style.
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Dutch modern inspired by Queen Margrethe's style??
QM's style is cluttered and a bit old fashioned, I think.
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05-30-2020, 09:53 AM
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Dutch modern inspired by Queen Margrethe's style??
QM's style is cluttered and a bit old fashioned, I think.
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Yep, if I remember it right, it was when Queen Margarethe became monarch in the early 70s and then redecorated the Danish castles in a modern way.
And when Beatrix became Queen of the Netherlands (1980?), she started the same there, after a visit in Denmark, where she had seen Margarethe's style.
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05-30-2020, 10:08 AM
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Yep, if I remember it right, it was when Queen Margarethe became monarch in the early 70s and then redecorated the Danish castles in a modern way.
And when Beatrix became Queen of the Netherlands (1980?), she started the same there, after a visit in Denmark, where she had seen Margarethe's style.
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Oh, ok, the 70s and 80s. I thought Dutch modern meant the past decade or so.
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05-30-2020, 01:31 PM
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Yep, if I remember it right, it was when Queen Margarethe became monarch in the early 70s and then redecorated the Danish castles in a modern way.
And when Beatrix became Queen of the Netherlands (1980?), she started the same there, after a visit in Denmark, where she had seen Margarethe's style.
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It was not so about interiors but about the Household organization. In the 1970's Princess Beatrix made visits to various royal courts, including discussing the organogram, the daily workings, the responsibilities, etc.
It is often claimed that Princess Beatrix was charmed by the Danish Household organization. In the 1980 the new Queen thoroughly reorganised the stuffy Dutch household, more filled with "us knows us" than with people hired for their expertise.
Instead of a lifelong service to the Crown, the new Queen made the Household part of the civic service where all top servants periodically change positions. So a former secretary-general of the Prime Minister's department became Grandmaster, a former director-general of the Department of Finances became Treasurer of the King, etc. But it also works the other way: a former Master of Ceremonies becomes an Ambassador, a former Private Secretary to the King becomes director of the State Information Service, etc.
Pro: a most professional Household
Con: the old "us knows us" sphere, with lifelong courtiers (often from nobility and patriciate) is gone, with them the typical "flavour" or "couleur locale" of a typical royal court.
Still people praise the "warm" (but chaotic) Household under Queen Juliana above that of the "cold" but efficient Household under Queen Beatrix. That was the inspiration from Denmark, but maybe, typically beatrixian, too much extended.
It is a different feel when an old incontinent Baroness, Dame du Palais of the Queen, with cracking knees accompanies you, or a temporary civil servant, detached from the Trade Department, who is "senior assistant to the King's Secretary". It feels like visiting a department or government service and less like a royal palace, so is often claimed.
It was about the Danish Household, not Margrethe's interiors.
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05-30-2020, 01:42 PM
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I love this thread!
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05-30-2020, 01:53 PM
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It is often claimed that Princess Beatrix was charmed by the Danish Household organization. In the 1980 the new Queen thoroughly reorganised the stuffy Dutch household, more filled with "us knows us" than with people hired for their expertise.
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Hmmm, looks again like I fell victim to my poor English. 
But is it not right, that under Margarethe and Beatrix (a few years later) started also this mixture of modern elements with stone-old furniture?
Anyway, thank you for your correction and contribution to the forums! Very interesting as so often. Thanks!
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