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02-10-2022, 06:41 AM
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There are strong opinions about some salons which were "free to re-decorate" (where the historic interiors have gone because of damage in WWII).
This is Queen Juliana's interior of the current "DNA salon". It looks old but it is just 1950's re-do.
This is Queen Beautrix' interior of the current "DNA salon". Essentially the same as Juliana's salon but with lighter wallhangings end upholstery.
This is the current salon at present. (With 60.000 brickstons forming the royal couple's DNA code, a modern take of a wall with family portraits). The sofas and seats are the same as in the old interior.
The older interior was more "palace like" but good lord, what a depressing room. I really like the current colourful outlook so much more.
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02-11-2022, 12:40 AM
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Look out Lawrence Llewellyn Bowen, Dear Muhler you are sounding like an interior design stylist. I dare say you are quite right.
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02-11-2022, 03:17 AM
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I much prefer the Queen Beatrix Style the modern brickstone effect does nothing for me and looks like a trendy wine bar.
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02-11-2022, 03:21 AM
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The lamp-thing in the ceiling needs to die.
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I have to agree with you on this.
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02-11-2022, 03:22 AM
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I have to agree with you on this.
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I do too it looks out of place!
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02-11-2022, 03:27 AM
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I much prefer the Queen Beatrix Style the modern brickstone effect does nothing for me and looks like a trendy wine bar.
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In recent years, I have come to like the juxtaposition of old and new, classical old furniture juxtaposed with very modern pieces. Whilst I like the thought process, I cannot claim to love the look of the room.
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02-11-2022, 04:24 AM
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I much prefer the Queen Beatrix Style the modern brickstone effect does nothing for me and looks like a trendy wine bar.
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Huis ten Bosch Palace is a private residence. We can really not expect modern people like King Willem-Alexander and Máxima having a reception room with the interior of Beatrix. It is the equivalent of saying: You can live in your parents' house but change nothing to the interior.
Queen Beatrix' reception room (good lord, imagine you have to receive guests in this 1950's wallhangings decor... )
The same room under King Willem-Alexander (without furniture but the same golden clock is back on the fireplace and a more impressive chandelier)
The same room under King Willem-Alexander (with two Kings)
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02-11-2022, 04:36 AM
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In recent years, I have come to like the juxtaposition of old and new, classical old furniture juxtaposed with very modern pieces. Whilst I like the thought process, I cannot claim to love the look of the room.
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In 1981 Queen Beatrix did the same in the so-called Van der Aa salon (named to the paintings of Dirck van der Aa (1731-1809), changing a frou-frou bonbonnière salon in a sober modern outlook. Apparently to the liking of King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima, because this room has been unchanged (but this salon is seldom or never used anyway):
Van der Aa Salon in 1981 (the telephone reveals the picture was made in that year)
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02-11-2022, 06:18 AM
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In 1981 Queen Beatrix did the same in the so-called Van der Aa salon (named to the paintings of Dirck van der Aa (1731-1809), changing a frou-frou bonbonnière salon in a sober modern outlook. Apparently to the liking of King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima, because this room has been unchanged (but this salon is seldom or never used anyway):
Van der Aa Salon in 1981 (the telephone reveals it was made in that year)
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Its a really lovely room and what a shame that its underused.
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02-11-2022, 09:51 AM
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Its a really lovely room and what a shame that its underused.
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Do we know if it is underused?
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02-11-2022, 10:39 AM
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Do we know if it is underused?
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I was referring to Duc_et_Pair 's comment but also I can't recall seeing it being used myself over the past decade.
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(but this salon is seldom or never used anyway)
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02-16-2022, 09:59 AM
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLuMZylX...name=4096x4096
It may not be “personal” but I hope I’m not alone in disliking that carpet in what’s otherwise a nice room. There even appears to be a nicer rug closer to the fire.
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02-16-2022, 10:34 AM
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It all will be arch-expensive stuff but it looks as a collection of Edelkitsch hoarded together. But of course: it will be a comfortable room in which the Queen feels happy. That is what count. Her home is her castle. Or better said: her castle is her home.
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02-16-2022, 10:35 AM
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Minus the carpet its a really nice reception room and love that fire place and the fender.
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02-16-2022, 10:41 AM
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It are the Gothic stucco motifs on the wall which gives it an Edelkitsch outlook. I am not sure if that is original or that also Windsor has fallen prey to Victorian neo-gothic rage once.
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02-16-2022, 11:37 AM
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What drew my attention are the ducks to the far right on the büro.
I can't make up my mind whether I love them and want them, or whether I want to present them as a gift to someone I hate.
Anyway, the room is too tidy to be lived in. No mags in the rack for example.
I suspect the couches are the kind you sit on, not in.
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02-16-2022, 11:56 AM
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What drew my attention are the ducks to the far right on the büro.
I can't make up my mind whether I love them and want them, or whether I want to present them as a gift to someone I hate.
Anyway, the room is too tidy to be lived in. No mags in the rack for example.
I suspect the couches are the kind you sit on, not in.
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It is indeed fun to spot the details in this room: my eye was caught by the box of Bendicks chocolate mints behind HM; I would not be surprised if the other boxes on that table also contain chocolate! The Queen seems to have lost weight and perhaps the chocolates are meant to help her back to health…! I know, but this is neither the place nor the time to discuss the health benefits of chocolate!
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02-16-2022, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair
It are the Gothic stucco motifs on the wall which gives it an Edelkitsch outlook. I am not sure if that is original or that also Windsor has fallen prey to Victorian neo-gothic rage once.
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It's called the oak room. Victoria used it as a dining room. Not sure when it was painted white. Probably by Edward VII.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAD
Seen from the quadrangle - in the centre. It acts as a porte cochere for the sovereign's entrance.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAD
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02-16-2022, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gerry
It is indeed fun to spot the details in this room: my eye was caught by the box of Bendicks chocolate mints behind HM; I would not be surprised if the other boxes on that table also contain chocolate! The Queen seems to have lost weight and perhaps the chocolates are meant to help her back to health…! I know, but this is neither the place nor the time to discuss the health benefits of chocolate! 
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I, too, noticed the chocolates. Boxes from Fortnum & Mason, Charbonnel et Walker and Bendicks Mints.
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02-16-2022, 01:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gerry
It is indeed fun to spot the details in this room: my eye was caught by the box of Bendicks chocolate mints behind HM; I would not be surprised if the other boxes on that table also contain chocolate! The Queen seems to have lost weight and perhaps the chocolates are meant to help her back to health…! I know, but this is neither the place nor the time to discuss the health benefits of chocolate! 
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There can only be benefits to chocolate.
Chocolate comes from trees. - Trees are good for us. They are our friends. Let's hug them.
Ergo chocolate is good for us.
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