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Old 04-30-2020, 05:01 AM
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If by "Barman Jack" you are referring to Jack Brooksbank. husband to Princess Eugenie...well..it's not quite as it seems. Google the man's family and background. Or even better check out the thread here on his family.

He is as close to being an aristocrat as one can be....without actually being one.
Yeah, but the thread here in the forums is a bit vague. It is claimed there, that he is a distant relative of Eugenie - True, but on her mother's side!
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...18-1?r=DE&IR=T
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Old 04-30-2020, 05:32 AM
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I think Kate was at a disadvantage position. Anything she did back then before marriage people would have criticize her as pretending to be a royal or using royal connection.
She is obviously smart and working for a family firm is not a bad thing. It afforded her the privacy she needed during the time she was followed by paparazzi more than anyone else (except Diana, May be)
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Old 04-30-2020, 06:20 AM
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HM Queen Máxima of the Netherlands née Zorreguieta Cerruti - Economy (Buenos Aires), worked as banker for Deutsche Bank (New York) before marriage

HRH Princess Mabel of Orange-Nassau née Wisse Smit - Economy and Political Science (Amsterdam), was director of Open Society Institute, an international lobbying organisation (Brussels) before marriage

HRH Princess Laurentien of the Netherlands née Brinkhorst - Political Sciences (London) and Journalism (Berkeley), was in the Board of BMSG Adamson Worldwide (London) before marriage

HRH Princess Anne-Marie de Bourbon de Parme née Guáltherie van Weezel - Law (Utrecht), Journalism (Virginia), International Law (Shanghai and Sydney), worked as parliamentary editor for the Dutch Public Broadcasting Corporation (The Hague) before marriage

Tjalling ten Cate (husband of HRH Princess Margarita de Bourbon de Parme) - Law, specialisation Financial Law (Amsterdam), worked as juridical expert for the Netherlands Central Bank (Amsterdam), specialized in the financial integrity of trust offices, before marriage

HRH Princess Viktória de Bourbon de Parme née Cservenyák - International Law (Utrecht), Master of Business Administration (Amsterdam), worked as juridical expert corporate law for Rabobank (Utrecht) before marriage

Albert Brenninkmeijer (husband of HRH Princess Carolina de Bourbon de Parme) - Master of Business Administration (Oxford), worked as member of the Board of the French headquarters (Paris) of his family company C&A
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Old 04-30-2020, 07:51 AM
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All of Queen (now Princess) Beatrix's and her sister's (Princess Margriet's) sons married commoners (albeit all wealthy) who all had a college education and are confident, strong women. All of these marriages appear to be solid. I think maturity, intellect, and common sense are traits needed for a commoner to comprehend what they are realistically getting into before marrying into royalty, especially those who are now Queen Consorts and Queen Consorts in waiting. :p

And they had a good example: Prof. Mr. Pieter van Vollenhoven.

He has become 81 years old today.
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Old 04-30-2020, 07:53 AM
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Yeah, but the thread here in the forums is a bit vague. It is claimed there, that he is a distant relative of Eugenie - True, but on her mother's side!
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...18-1?r=DE&IR=T
He probably is.. upper classes are generally related...
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Old 04-30-2020, 09:17 AM
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The reason I singled out Jack Brooksbank is to show that he is not just some random bartender who married the Queen of England's granddaughter.

There is no way Prince Andrew would have allowed that.
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Old 04-30-2020, 09:25 AM
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Yeah, but the thread here in the forums is a bit vague. It is claimed there, that he is a distant relative of Eugenie - True, but on her mother's side!
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...18-1?r=DE&IR=T
Him being related to Eugenie is not really relevant in whether he is 'almost noble'. He clearly is part of the untitled gentry (as was Sarah); his family holds a baronetcy and he is in line to that baronetcy (although the chances of him ever getting it are extremely small).
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Old 04-30-2020, 10:54 AM
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The reason I singled out Jack Brooksbank is to show that he is not just some random bartender who married the Queen of England's granddaughter.

There is no way Prince Andrew would have allowed that.
I don't see that it would be up to Andrew..
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Old 04-30-2020, 11:58 AM
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I don't see that it would be up to Andrew..
Agreed. Eugenie marrying any rich, connected man should have made Andrew happy. It takes some financial burden off him. Also, at the time of Eugenie's marriage, Andrew already knew his name was in the FBI files relative to Epstein. Eugenie was certainly luckier than her poor sister Bea.
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:33 PM
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Agreed. Eugenie marrying any rich, connected man should have made Andrew happy. It takes some financial burden off him. Also, at the time of Eugenie's marriage, Andrew already knew his name was in the FBI files relative to Epstein. Eugenie was certainly luckier than her poor sister Bea.
I meant that its not up to Andrew who the York girls marry. They are both well over 18 and he can hardly forbid the nuptials for either of them. Beside they have their own money.. He pay for security for them.. but he may go on doing that.
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Old 04-30-2020, 02:14 PM
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I don't see that it would be up to Andrew..
Yes and no. It's unlikely that he would have done so, but if he had strongly disapproved of the groom it would have made things very uncomfortable for the bride and groom. He could have withheld $$ for the wedding. He definitely wouldn't have given that super jolly wedding toast.

It's a moot point. He seems thrilled with his son-in-law.
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