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Old 03-17-2016, 03:49 PM
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Madeleine of Sweden (1982) and Christopher O' Neil (1974)

Married: 08.06. 2013

First Child: Leonore (20.02. 2014)

8 month and 12 days.

Second Child: Nicolas (15.06. 2015)
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Old 12-03-2016, 01:10 PM
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Karl Theodor, Kurfürst of Bavaria (1724-1799) and his first wife Elisabeth Auguste (cousine) (1721-1794).

Married: 17.01. 1742 (her 21st birthday)

First Child: Franz Ludwig Joseph (28.06.1761) (died 29.06.1761)

19 years, 5 month and 11 days.

Karl Theodor married later Maria Leopoldine of Modena-Este (1776-1848), but had no issue with her.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:20 AM
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Friedrich August III. /I. King of Saxony (1750-1827) and Amalie, Princess of Pfalz-Zweibrücken (1752-1828).

Married: 29.01. 1769

First child: Maria Augusta (21.06. 1782 - 14.03. 1863)

12 years 4 month 23 days.

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Anton of Saxony (1755-1836), brother of Friedrich August, and Maria Theresia, Princess of Toskana (1767-1827), his second wife.

Married: 18.10. 1787

First child: Maria Ludovika (14.03. 1795 - 25.04. 1796)

8 years 4 month 24 days

Anton and Maria Theresia had 4 children (1 son and 3 daughters), but all of the died in childhood.

Anton was married first to Charlotte, Princess of Sardinia (1764-1782), 1781-1782, but had no issue with her.
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:08 AM
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Carl Philip of Sweden and Sofia Hellqvist:

Married: 13.06. 2015

First Child: Alexander (19.04. 2016)

10 Month 2 days.
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Old 04-05-2017, 10:34 AM
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Carl Philip of Sweden and Sofia Hellqvist:

Married: 13.06. 2015

First Child: Alexander (19.04. 2016)

10 Month 2 days.
10 Month, 6 days.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:45 AM
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Gisela (1856-1932) and Leopold of Bavaria (1846-1930)
Married : 20.04. 1873
First Child: Elisabeth Marie 08.01. 1874 (1874-1957)
Time: 11 month 19 days

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Correctur: 8 month 19 days
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Old 08-30-2017, 02:24 PM
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Gisela (1856-1932) and Leopold of Bavaria (1846-1930)
Married : 20.04. 1873
First Child: Elisabeth Marie 08.01. 1874 (1874-1957)
Time: 11 month 19 days

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Correctur: 8 month 19 days
Either little Elisabeth Marie was in a hurry to get out or Leopold was in a hurry to... see Giselas petticoat 😜
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Old 09-02-2017, 10:02 PM
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First-born Child - How Long After The Wedding?

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Madeleine of Sweden (1982) and Christopher O' Neil (1974)

Married: 08.06. 2013

First Child: Leonore (20.02. 2014)

8 month and 12 days.

Second Child: Nicolas (15.06. 2015)

Was Madeleine pregnant on the wedding day or was Leonore born early? I thought she was due the first week of March. (As a comparison, my paternal grandparents got married on September 6th '47 and my uncle was born on May 6th '48, exactly 8 months after the wedding. For the longest time I thought my grandma was a month pregnant when she got married, but when I asked my dad about it, he said "No, Uncle Bill was premature.")


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Old 09-03-2017, 01:42 AM
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There was a lot of premie births in times gone by
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:36 PM
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Either little Elisabeth Marie was in a hurry to get out or Leopold was in a hurry to... see Giselas petticoat 😜

Elisabeth Marie was born premature, about two weeks, as far as I know.

"Leopold was in a hurry to ... see Giselas petticoat ." *loooooooool*
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:39 PM
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Was Madeleine pregnant on the wedding day or was Leonore born early? I thought she was due the first week of March. (As a comparison, my paternal grandparents got married on September 6th '47 and my uncle was born on May 6th '48, exactly 8 months after the wedding. For the longest time I thought my grandma was a month pregnant when she got married, but when I asked my dad about it, he said "No, Uncle Bill was premature.")


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I don't know excactly. Both can be: Leonore was born premature or Madeleine was pregnant at the wedding.

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Claire and Felix of Luxemburg:

Married: 13.09. 2013

First Child: Amalia 15.06. 2014

9 Month 2 days.

Here the same: Was the bride pregnant at the time of the wedding or was it a honey-moon child or was it born premature ?

Second Child: Liam 28.11. 2016
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Old 06-15-2018, 03:53 PM
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Either little Elisabeth Marie was in a hurry to get out or Leopold was in a hurry to... see Giselas petticoat 😜
As far as I know, the girl was born two weeks premature.
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:06 PM
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There was a lot of premie births in times gone by
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:53 PM
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Was Madeleine pregnant on the wedding day or was Leonore born early? I thought she was due the first week of March. (As a comparison, my paternal grandparents got married on September 6th '47 and my uncle was born on May 6th '48, exactly 8 months after the wedding. For the longest time I thought my grandma was a month pregnant when she got married, but when I asked my dad about it, he said "No, Uncle Bill was premature.")


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She was probably nine days early:

https://www.babymed.com/tools/retro-.../2014&weeks=40

Prince Alexander of Liechrtenstein & King Abdullah of Jordan - respectively 15 and 16 days early (but it's already considered a full term)

Ones that could in fact be premature were: Prince Alexandre of Belgium (exactly six weeks) and King Michael of Romania (five weeks and two days)
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

Wedding: May 18, 2018
First child: May 6, 2019

11 months and 17 days.
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:44 PM
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I don't know excactly. Both can be: Leonore was born premature or Madeleine was pregnant at the wedding.

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Claire and Felix of Luxemburg:

Married: 13.09. 2013

First Child: Amalia 15.06. 2014

9 Month 2 days.

Here the same: Was the bride pregnant at the time of the wedding or was it a honey-moon child or was it born premature ?

Second Child: Liam 28.11. 2016
It was most likely a honeymoon child. For the child to be born at 9 months and still be conceived prior (in the few days leading up) to the wedding, she must have been overdue by about 1 1/2 weeks to 2 weeks. That combination of circumstances seems highly unlikely.

It's important to take into account that the '9 months' is not exactly 9 months, nor is the 40 weeks counted from the moment a child is conceived (but from the last period - about 2 weeks before ovulation).

If a bride would get pregnant from her wedding night, the due date would be about 9 months minus 1 week (i.e. 38 weeks after wedding). So, non-premature babies conceived after the wedding day could be born from 8 weeks and 1 1/2 weeks (taking into account that most months count about 4 1/2 weeks; and being born between 2 weeks prior until 2 weeks after due date is considered full-term).
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Old 09-08-2019, 06:32 PM
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Depending on the length of the honeymoon, she may not have even been a honeymoon baby.

If she was born on her due date, the range for intercourse and conception is September 19-29. Even at the earliest end of that spectrum her conception was a week after the wedding. Certainly not a pre-wedding baby.

https://www.calculator.net/pregnancy...it=0&x=91&y=14

If the baby was conceived on their wedding night, the due date would have been more then a week earlier. It would have been around June 6.
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Old 09-08-2019, 06:38 PM
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Depending on the length of the honeymoon, she may not have even been a honeymoon baby.

If she was born on her due date, the range for intercourse and conception is September 19-29. Even at the earliest end of that spectrum her conception was a week after the wedding. Certainly not a pre-wedding baby.

https://www.calculator.net/pregnancy...it=0&x=91&y=14

If the baby was conceived on their wedding night, the due date would have been more then a week earlier. It would have been around June 6.
The wedding took place on the 17th (religious wedding on the 21st); so the 'most probable days' (17 - 24) are exactly the week from civil wedding until 1 week after civil wedding.

So, I agree that there is lots of reason to assume that she was a honeymoon child but even with this due date it could be wedding night. A due date of June 6 would make wedding night unlikely (most probable: 8 - 15).

N.B. Feels a bit weird to look into it in so much detail; mainly wanted to make sure that people would not start questioning babies born at 9 months after marriage as that is very much within the expected timeframe for a honeymoon baby; 8 months not so much.
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Old 09-08-2019, 06:49 PM
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Except that Amalia was born on the 15th, not the 20th and the wedding took place on the 17th (religious wedding on the 21st); so the 'most probable days' are exactly the week from civil wedding until 1 week after civil wedding.
I fixed my post when I realized I put the wrong date. If you click my link, you will see it is based on a June 15th due date. And the range of 19-29 was adjusted to reflect that.

Unfortunately I look the OP as being accurate when said wedding date was September 13 not 17th.


Most probable date of intercourse was 17-24 so either wedding night or up to a week later. But still a post wedding baby either way.
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Old 12-10-2019, 01:29 PM
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Guillaume and Stephanie of Luxemburg:
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First child: Due in May 2020

7 Years 6 month and a lot of days.
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