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03-14-2009, 09:53 AM
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It's interesting to me, the pressure royals face to have a child immediatley after getting married, especially heirs/heiresses apparent. I believe that's why so many, like Crown Princess Victoria, choose to date and be engaged for such an extended amount of time.
Though I suppose that mainly applies to the Northern European and non-European royals. If the Catholic royals are devout, they really don't have a choice in the matter...
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03-14-2009, 03:41 PM
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Belgium
Leopold III & Astrid
Married: 4 November 1926
First child: Josephine born 11 October 1927
11 months, 7 days
Leopold III & Lillian
Married: 6 December 1941
First Child: Alexander born 18 July 1942
Seven months, 12 days
Albert II & Paola
Married: 2 July 1959
First Child: Philippe born 15 April 1960
9 months, 13 days
Philippe & Mathilde
Married: 4 December 1999
First Child: Elisabeth born 25 October 2001
1 year, 10 months, 11 days
Astrid & Lorenzo
Married: 22 September 1984
First Child: Amedeo born 21 February 1986
17 months
Laurent & Claire
Married: 12 April 2003
First Child: Louise born 6 February 2004
9 months, 25 days
Great Britain
Elizabeth II & Prince Philip
Married: 20 November 1947
First Child: Charles born 14 November 1948
9 months, six days
Charles & Diana
Married: 29 July 1981
First Child: William born 21 June 1982
9 months
Anne & Mark Phillips
Married: 14 November 1973
First Child: Peter born 15 November 1977
3 years, 1 day
Andrew & Sarah
Married: 23 July 1986
First Child: Beatrice born 8 August 1988
2 years, 15 days
Edward & Sophie
Married: 19 June 1999
First Child: Louise born 8 November 2003
4 years, 5 months, 11 days
Denmark
Margrethe II & Henri
Married: 10 June 1967
First Child: Frederick born 26 May 1968
9 months, 20 days
Frederick & Mary
Married: 14 May 2004
First Child: Christian born 15 October 2005
17 months, 1 day
Joachim & Alexandra
Married: 18 November 1995
First Child: Nikolai born 28 August 1999
3 years, 9 months, 10 days
Joachim & Marie
Married: 24 May 2008
First Child: Early May 2009
1 year and 20 some odd days
Leichtenstein
Hans-Adam & Marie
Married: 30 July 1967
First Child: Alois born 11 June 1968
9 months, 19 days
Maximilian & Angela
Married: 29 January 2000 (religious ceremony)
First Child: Alfons born 18 May 2001
1 year, 5 months
Luxembourg
Jean & Josephine-Charlotte
Married: 9 April 1953
First Child: Marie-Astrid born 17 February 1954
10 months, 8 days
Henri & Maria Teresa
Married: 4 Februry 1981 (civil)
First Child: Guillame born 11 November 1981
9 months, 7 days
The Netherlands
Juliana & Bernhard
Married: 7 January 1937
First Child: Beatrix born 31 January 1938
10 months, 28 days
Beatrix & Claus
Married: 10 March 1966
First Child: Wilhelm-Alexander 27 April 1967
13 months
W-A & Maxima
Married: 2 February 2002
First Child: Amalia born 7 December 2003
10 months, 5 days
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03-28-2009, 09:44 AM
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Tsar Nicholas II and Tsarina Alexandra:
Married: November 14, 1894
Grand Duchess Olga born November 15, 1894
1 year and 1 day
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Surely that should be 1895?
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03-28-2009, 09:45 AM
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I can't believe no one has done Fred and Mary :) :
Wedding: 14 May 2004
Birth den nye lille prins: 16 October 2005
Time: 17 months (1 year 5 months)
They waited a while.
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Technically no because Christian would have been conceieved in February which would have been 10 months after the wedding.
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03-28-2009, 11:36 AM
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Belgium
Great Britain
Elizabeth II & Prince Philip
Married: 20 November 1947
First Child: Charles born 14 November 1948
9 months, six days
Charles & Diana
Married: 29 July 1981
First Child: William born 21 June 1982
9 months
Denmark
Margrethe II & Henri
Married: 10 June 1967
First Child: Frederick born 26 May 1968
9 months, 20 days
The Netherlands
Juliana & Bernhard
Married: 7 January 1937
First Child: Beatrix born 31 January 1938
10 months, 28 days
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Some of those dates appear to be wrong - these are my rough estimates
Elizabeth and Philip - Charles was born only 6 days before they celebrated their 1st wedding anniversary
Charles and Diana - William was born over 10 months into their marriage
Margrethe and Henri - Frederick was born only 15 days before they celebrated their 1st wedding anniversary
Juliana and Bernhard - Beatrix was just over a year after they celebrated their first wedding anniversary
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04-09-2009, 03:44 PM
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Question about legitimacy of the child- If the child is concieved out of wedlock is it considered illegitimate? If no, then Victoria of Sweden could get pregnant in Oct/Nov of this year and have her heir by the end of next summer.
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04-09-2009, 04:27 PM
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I would assume that all children concieved before a marriage are considered illegitimate and therefore could not take the throne.
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04-09-2009, 04:55 PM
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About some Royals from the past:
France
- King Francis I and Princess Claude of France
married : 18 May 1514
1st child : Louise born 19 August 1515
15 months
-Henri II and Catherine de Medici
married : 28 October 1533
1st child : Francis born 19 January 1544
11 years (but they had 9 more children after him)
-Henri IV and Marie de Medici
married : 17 December 1600
1st child : Louis born 27 September 1601
9 months and 10 days
-Louis XIII and Anne of Austria, Infanta of Spain
married : 21 November 1615
1st child : Louis born 5 September 1638
22 years and 10 months
-Louis XIV and Marie-Thérèse of Austria,Infanta of Spain
married : 9 June 1660
1st child : Louis born 1st November 1661
1 year and 5 months
-Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette, Archduchess of Austria
married : 16 May 1770
1st child : Marie-Thérèse born 19 december 1778
8 years and 7 months
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04-09-2009, 05:31 PM
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very interesting thread, thanks everyone for all the information.... my mama always had a saying... the first baby can come at anytime, it is only after the first that they take 9 months.
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07-07-2009, 10:53 PM
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There is a noticeable difference between the modern Catholic Royals and the modern Protestant/Orthodox royals... I guess the Catholic royals are, indeed, adhering to birth control doctrines it seems!
That would be the one thing that would turn me off from marrying a royal. It'd be nice to just spend some time as husband and wife, getting to know one another a little better, I think. But that's just me!
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07-08-2009, 05:20 AM
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There is a noticeable difference between the modern Catholic Royals and the modern Protestant/Orthodox royals... I guess the Catholic royals are, indeed, adhering to birth control doctrines it seems!
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Can somebody do some example in this direction? I have not many examples in mind and I can't see such differences
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07-08-2009, 03:33 PM
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And Princess Grace? She got pregnat in her honeymoon or what? Because she married Rainier in April 1956 and Caroline was born in January 1957.
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07-08-2009, 04:06 PM
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9 months and 4 days; I guess she got pregnant in her honeymoon...
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07-08-2009, 04:09 PM
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Quote:
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-Louis XIII and Anne of Austria, Infanta of Spain
married : 21 November 1615
1st child : Louis born 5 September 1638
22 years and 10 months
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Wow, that's really long!  How old was Anne when Louis was born?
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07-08-2009, 04:28 PM
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Both the Queen and the King were 37.
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07-08-2009, 07:11 PM
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Quote:
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Question about legitimacy of the child- If the child is concieved out of wedlock is it considered illegitimate? If no, then Victoria of Sweden could get pregnant in Oct/Nov of this year and have her heir by the end of next summer.
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A child's legitimacy is determined by the status of the parents at its birth. (Which sort of makes sense, since it prevents any debate about babies who are born, say, 8 1/2 months after the marriage, when they could have been conceived out of wedlock or just not carried to term.) So if the parents marry the day before it's born, it's still legitimate, and if they conceive it in wedlock but then get divorced before the birth, it's illegitimate.
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09-08-2009, 02:35 PM
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if we talk the older generations how long after the wedding were queen margarethe od denarm born or the oldest of king of swedens sisters
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09-08-2009, 03:23 PM
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I think that depends on couple's age and attitude. I don't think so they must have children so quickly but Mary, Letizia, Marie or Victoria in day of wedding was (or will be): Mary - 32, Letizia -32, Marie - 32, Victoria - 33. That's not age when you could wait for starting family so long so I'm not suprised they have (or will have becouse I think that will be the same with Victoria) very quickly. But Mathilde was 26 so she could have more time but she loves kids and she didn't want wait too long as I've read.
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if we talk the older generations how long after the wedding were queen margarethe od denarm born or the oldest of king of swedens sisters
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Queen Ingrid married King Frederik in 1935.
Margrethe was born in 1940.
Prince Gustaf Adolf married Princess Sibylla in 1932.
Princess Margaretha was born in 1934.
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Princess Caroline of Monaco and Prince Ernst
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