Queen Juliana (1909-2004) and Prince Bernhard (1911-2004) - Page 5

Maxie · #81 01-26-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Marengo

And from my photobucket (but originally from www.hetgeheugenvannederland.nl), a nice poem about the engagement of Princess Juliana and Prince Carl of Sweden!!!

That's a great poem, Marengo! Thanks for posting it, I really enjoyed it. :)

**Marengo** · #82 01-27-2006, 06:08 AM

It is rather funny, considering she never got engaged to the chap (when the negocciations failed the dutch ambassador to London, who had to arrange the thing, was taken ill to bed for two weeks). In Holland people were however akmost certain about the engagement, photographs were placed in shopwindows, songs like these were made and small books/articles were written about Carl (who is the brother of Crownprincess Martha of Norway and Queen Astrid of the Belgians). The funny thing about the song is that it already is wrning Juliana, not to let the guy slip, which was exactly what she did. Note that the song affectionally refers to 'Juliaantje' as if they were referring to family, I remember my grandmother usually calling her that way as well.

I believe Wilhelmina blamed it on a danish/norwegian/greek conspiracy, headed by Queen Maud of Norway. At other times the belgian King and Queen were suspected, because they wanted the younger brother of the King Prince Karel) to marry Juliana.
In reality Carl didn't care much for Juliana and Juliana didn't care the least for him (she found him to childish, and even according to the dutch ambassador in Sweden, the swedish princes were only interested in cars, parties and women) but for Peter of Greece, who was unsuitable as his great-grandfather owned a casino in Monte Carlo. The dutch ambassador to London later even admitted that Juliana went out of her ways to behave aloof and haughty to the swedish Prince. I wonder if she later on regretted on her decission...

**Marengo** · #83 01-27-2006, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tosca

Queen Juliana was very popular in Italy too. Once I saw a picture of her washing her laundry while she was spending the summmer holidays at Argentario (TuscanY)

Tanks for your reply Tosca, I believe there was a concert held for Juliana in Porto Ercole last year. Organised by an italian princess and attended by Princess Christina (who sung there as well) and Juliana Guillermo. Juliana usually had fun in doing ordinairy household things (though I must say she didn't do it that often), a 'joy' she discovered when she lived in Ottawa.

Queen Beatrix has a house in Tavernelle, Tuscany, but I don't know if Juliana ever visited the place (usually the family went to the matriarch (and patriarch) in Porto Ercole.

**Marengo** · #84 01-27-2006, 06:31 AM

I can not praise the site www.hetgeheugenvannederland.nl enough, for I have found my favourite Juliana picture there!!!

**Marengo** · #85 01-27-2006, 06:34 AM

Here a picture from the same site, Julina received a watch and 3 of her daughters & her husband are admiring it:

**Marengo** · #86 01-27-2006, 04:01 PM

Now three more pictures from www.hetgeheugenvannederland.nl:

The first picture shows Princess Juliana holding her youngest daughter Marijke and surrounded by her mother, Queen Wilhelmina and her 3 other daughters.

During the second worldwar pictures of the RF were made and dropped out of Allied airplanes, to raise the spirits in the Netherlands. This picture shows Juliana, Bernhard and their 3 eldest daughters in Ottawa:

This one shows the arrival of the small princesses at airport Teuge, in 1945, after the war. A journalist tried to put a microphone under the nose of Princess Beatrix, who replied ' I don't like those things' (Ik hou niet van die dingen).

Squidgy · #87 01-27-2006, 04:39 PM

Wonderful pictures Marengo! The Royal Dutch National Library has digitised some great high quality pics of the RF. I spent days last summer just going through some of them - I must admit I have a weakness for pics of the four princesses while growing up! Thanks for posting these pics!

**Marengo** · #88 01-27-2006, 05:20 PM

Thanks Squidgy, I have to confess the same weakness and addiction (for the moment as I am enjoying my photobucket).

Here a picture from Corbis of Queen Juliana surrounded by Crownprince Olav of Norway, Eleonor Roosevelt (such a wonderful woman & a personal friend of Juliana), Crownprincess Martha of Norway and a gentleman whose name I do not know.

Warren · #89 01-28-2006, 01:50 AM

Another lovely pic from the dusty Corbis vaults showing a very regal Juliana; sans tiara, but furred, fanned, sashed and bejewelled.

Queen Juliana

**Marengo** · #90 01-28-2006, 09:26 AM

And with a nice haircut to I must add! She certainly had her glamorous moments! I wish they still used fans like that, it seems so theatrical!

**Marengo** · #91 01-28-2006, 10:30 AM

From Corbis:

Juliana (the girl) ice skating in 1917:

Juliana and Bernhard having fun in Porto Ercole:

Maxie · #92 01-28-2006, 09:09 PM

I'm so glad you discovered photobucket, Marengo! These pictures are priceless! Juliana was such a warm and lovely queen!!! And thanks for telling us about the history with Juliana and prince Carl. I really love to learn about these things, because I don't know much about the pas history of our royal family, though I'm highly interested in it. Maybe I should go and see if the library of my university has some books about them. :)

**Marengo** · #93 01-28-2006, 09:12 PM

You should definately get the biography by Prof. Fasseur about Wilhelmina, it is excellent! The search for a husband for both Wilhelmina and especially for Juliana was so difficult and hilarious (for today's reader). And Wilhelmina of course was an exceptional woman...

Maxie · #94 01-28-2006, 09:19 PM

Thanks for the tip, Marengo! I will surely get that one and read it. I just did a little search in the search option of the library of the university (Don't you just love the internet?) and they got three things of Fasseur on Wilhelmina: 'Wilhelmina: krijgshaftig in een vormeloze jas' (interesting title

), 'Wilhelmina: de jonge koningin' (inspired by one of my favourite movies, Sissi, die junge Kaiserin?

) and 'Wilhelmina: sterker door strijd.' Which one of these is it, or is it just three volumes?

**Marengo** · #95 01-28-2006, 09:25 PM

Well, here is a shocker: It's all three of them...
The first, Wilhelmina, de jonge koningin is around 600 pages, and stops after WWI, the second volume 'krijgshaftig in een vormeloze jas' is the rest of her life, also around 600 pages. The other book is much smaller and contains anecdotes/information Fasseur didn't mention in the first two books. Fasseur writes very well, though the biography is highly political, which can be boring at times (How Wilhelmina treats her ministers is fun to read btw, she wasn't to be trifled with).

Maxie · #96 01-28-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marengo

Well, here is a shocker: It's all three of them...
The first, Wilhelmina, de jonge koningin is around 600 pages, and stops after WWI, the second volume 'krijgshaftig in een vormeloze jas' is the rest of her life, also around 600 pages. The other book is much smaller and contains anecdotes/information Fasseur didn't mention in the first two books. Fasseur writes very well, though the biography is highly political, which can be boring at times (How Wilhelmina treats her ministers is fun to read btw, she wasn't to be trifled with).

Hmmm, oh well. I read much more than 1200 pages in my whole life course (I'm a real 'boekenwurm' as it is called in Dutch, I read a lot of books and that's not even close to what I still have to read... :)). So, I think I'll take the challenge some day in the near future. I let you know when I finished it, okay?

Let's say, reading about royals will keep me from wandering in the streets without a purpose... and that's a good thing, isn't it? :)

**Marengo** · #97 01-28-2006, 09:56 PM

Well, a good walk can be very healthy

But the wandering without purpose probably leads to shops & more shops, which is rather damaging for your bankaccounts.

Before we get to much OT, here a picture of Juliana and her mother (note how straight her back is, even Queen Mary couldn't beat that one

) Wilhelmina had the habit of talking very loud through the microphone, as if she had to reacht he inhabitants of the Dutch Indies with her own voice.

source: Corbis

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Queen Wilhelmina with Speech in Hand by Princess Juliana
Original caption: Amsterdam, Holland: Holland's Queen Speaks To Subjects In The Indies. Photo shows her highness, Queen Wilhelmina of Holland, and her daughter, the Princess Juliana speaking from the radio station here. The talk was broadcast over a wave length strong enough to carry to the waiting subjects in the Dutch East and West Indies

Maxie · #98 01-28-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Marengo

Well, a good walk can be very healthy

But the wandering without purpose probably leads to shops & more shops, which is rather damaging for your bankaccounts.

Tell me about it, I'm experiencing some really rough financial times at the moment...

That's why it's a good thing that I can get the book about Wilhelmina at the library... for free!

**Marengo** · #99 01-28-2006, 10:18 PM

Well, who doesn't, it has been sales

I have the history library of the AMsterdaam University to provide me books, so I will soon ask for the autobiography of Duchess Victoria-Luise of Brunswick (grandmother of Queen Sofia of Spain).

Two more pics of the war years,

Pics: Corbis

Dutch Royal Family Exiting Their Palace
Original caption: The Hague, Holland: Holland's Rulers Will "Do Their Duty" A photo made at the Hague, recently, showing the Dutch Royal family receiving acclamation of their subjects as they leave the Palace. L-R, Queen Wilhemina, Crown Prince Consort Bernhard with his daughter Princess Beatrix and Crown Princess Juliana. In an official announcement, this morning, following Germany's land and air invasion of the Netherlands, Queen Wilhemina stated, "I and my country will do our duty."

Royal Dutch Family Posing Outdoors
Original caption: Ottawa, Canada: The Royal Family Of The Netherlands. The latest picture of the Netherlands Royal family, posed outside their home near Ottawa. August 31st will mark the 63rd birthday of her majesty, Queen Wilhelmina. From left to right are: Prince Bernhard, consort of the Crown Princess, holding their youngest daughter Princess Margriet Francisca; Princess Irene; Crown Princess Juliana; Queen Wilhelmina and Princess Beatrix, eldest of the daughters.

Alexandria · #**100** 01-29-2006, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Marengo

And from my photobucket (but originally from www.hetgeheugenvannederland.nl), a nice poem about the engagement of Princess Juliana and Prince Carl of Sweden!!!

I wonder if anyone could translate the poem or provide a gist of what the poem says? I'm curious to know what the back story about Juliana being paired with Carl of Sweden is -- was that a popular love match in the eyes of both countries like Nikolas of Greece and Victoria of Sweden?