The Se & Hoer Scandal

[Artemisia]

I find it remarkable that the Royal House issued a press release specifically aimed against a single magazine. Not that I blame them.

This paragraph is interesting:

I tillegg hadde Se og Hør 11. januar 2013 et førstesideoppslag basert på uriktige opplysninger om kostnader til Kronprinsfamiliens juleferie. Bladet viser bilder av et hus og en båt Kronprinsparet angivelig skal ha leid. Begge deler er uriktig. Kronprinsparet kjenner ikke til huset og har heller ikke leid noen båt.

I remember those pictures and I think most of us here accepted it as a fact that the house and the boat were indeed rented by the Crown Princely couple. Probably because you expect some level of integrity and basic fact-checking even from the most unreliable sources.

[fortimo]

The response of the newspaper:

Hmmm, interesting...

"They think it is okay to invite the press on tours where Mette-Marit will demonstrate its commitment to poor children in Africa, but do not want us to be there when they spend money on your own vacations."

"The Royal Family has such good economy if they want to walk around in a bikini in a Southern sun, then they damn afford to rent a private island if they absolutely want to be alone."

- Kongebarna skal ikke skjermes - VG Nett om Kongehuset
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And an other article:
http://www.side2.no/underholdning/article3567814.ece
http://translate.google.hu/translate...cle3567814.ece

[lucien]

Originally Posted by fortimo

The response of the newspaper:

Hmmm, interesting...

"They think it is okay to invite the press on tours where Mette-Marit will demonstrate its commitment to poor children in Africa, but do not want us to be there when they spend money on your own vacations."

"The Royal Family has such good economy if they want to walk around in a bikini in a Southern sun, then they damn afford to rent a private island if they absolutely want to be alone."

- Kongebarna skal ikke skjermes - VG Nett om Kongehuset
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And an other article:
Kongefamilien tar et oppgjør med Se og Hør - Side2
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It is not for pulp to comment..Pulp.i.e. the "newspaper"with these blunt statements..I wish they were taken out once and for all..it has nothing to do with freedom of expression,it's just plain scum,a-social critters that need a good spankin into a blur of sorts!...

[fortimo]

Royals launch media complaint : Views and News from Norway

"...Some Norwegian media appear to subsequently have lost interest in the royals or have stopped covering activities like official visits and public appearances, because of strict terms set by the palace..."

[miche]

Good for them

I hope the win. If the the British press is anything to go by, it might be not work

[LadyFinn]

A stinging complaint launched by Norway’s Royal Palace against celebrity magazine Se og Hør last week seemed to lose some of its credibility this week, when news broke that the king and queen’s own son-in-law, Ari Behn, entertained at a Se og Hør staff luncheon and got paid by the magazine to do so. Behn’s business with the magazine threw the palace into what one critic called a “comical” and “complicated” situation.

The whole article
Behn ‘complicates’ royal complaint Views and News from Norway

[fortimo]

Another article with a short video (when NRK asked Mette-Marit in Alta about the holiday):
– Se og Hør bryter loven - Norge - NRK Nyheter
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[maria antonietta]

Mette Marit hentet barna hans i India ? nå blir han hennes rådgiver NA24

[HereditaryPrincess]

I sympathize with Mette-Marit and other members of the Norwegian Royal Family who don't like the press. I and other members here have the privilege of doing things like going out and going on holiday privately; where the only camera around is the family camera/phone cameras. When I look at all of the royals and celebrities who are 'always' getting photographed, I sometimes think that I'm actually quite lucky; as I have the 'freedom' to go anywhere without cameras. It must be very frustrating for Mette-Marit, because before her marriage to CP Haakon, she didn't experience paparazzi and interviews. It's probably also annoying for her, especially when she's taking the children to school and when the family are on holiday. When the children go to school it's probably around 8:00- 8:30 in the morning (this is the usual school time in England, I'm not sure about Norway, correct me if I'm wrong), and she and the children are probably tired, and the last thing they want is paparazzi taking pictures of them. We all like relaxing holidays, and most royals probably won't have the opportunity of a 'camera-free' holiday.

These are just my opinions and thoughts on the matter.

[maria antonietta]

I agree...but this is the prize you have to pay when you are a celebrity and with her wedding with Haakon she became a famous person.....and she is our idol and we sympathize with her....she is a role model - she inspires us...she is wonderful and I say thank you to her for showing me how to fight for LOVE.

[Al_bina]

Like any Crown Princess, Crown Princess Mette-Marit enjoys perquisite of her position within the society. Like any other Crown Princess, she should be ready for certain degree of intrusiveness. Royals like media showcasing how useful they are.

[casualfan]

Originally Posted by Al_bina

Like any Crown Princess, Crown Princess Mette-Marit enjoys perquisite of her position within the society. Like any other Crown Princess, she should be ready for certain degree of intrusiveness. Royals like media showcasing how useful they are.

We can all go and read the Cambridge threads for more discussion about this issue. Long story short, I strongly disagree with your statement.

[Al_bina]

It is all right. It has been kind of you though not to repeat the trite talking points.

[fortimo]

It is business between royals (and other VIP's) and media. They should live together... If I know good the Cambridges were in a privateisland but the norwegian royals were on an island, what full are with VIP's and so naturally with paparazzis... They could spent the previous christmasholiday in Costa Rica and we didn't know about. Also they spent 3 weeks in Bali 2010, we didn't see pictures about it. We didn't see much pictures when they were in Antigua... And I am sure they travel often to destinations, about we don't know... I mean if they want to stay in privat they can organise it, so I think it is first of all their decision where they spend holiday, and I am sure they know definitely where can they meet paparazzis, where not. So I find this hysterics a little bit too much and absurd.

[maria antonietta]

Dear Fortimo, I agree

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by fortimo

It is business between royals (and other VIP's) and media. They should live together... If I know good the Cambridges were in a privateisland but the norwegian royals were on an island, what full are with VIP's and so naturally with paparazzis... They could spent the previous christmasholiday in Costa Rica and we didn't know about. Also they spent 3 weeks in Bali 2010, we didn't see pictures about it. We didn't see much pictures when they were in Antigua... And I am sure they travel often to destinations, about we don't know... I mean if they want to stay in privat they can organise it, so I think it is first of all their decision where they spend holiday, and I am sure they know definitely where can they meet paparazzis, where not. So I find this hysterics a little bit too much and absurd.

There is the job of the journalist who reports the standards of who, where why, what and how and writes the story. Then there's the paps that send a photo and anything can be made in words from that photo.

To me, even in this information age and instant viral shots that wouldn't be considered serious news 50 years ago, its the global intelligence that has declined.

Take a minute and think about it. Big bucks for a belly shot. what a couple will be doing on Valentine's day. The dog that is so cute! watch this!.

We all see it and that's what our media feeds to us.

I think the days of straight journalism has died.

[HereditaryPrincess]

Originally Posted by maria antonietta

I agree...but this is the prize you have to pay when you are a celebrity and with her wedding with Haakon she became a famous person.....and she is our idol and we sympathize with her....she is a role model - she inspires us...she is wonderful and I say thank you to her for showing me how to fight for LOVE.

You have some good points there.

[casualfan]

Originally Posted by Al_bina

It is all right. It has been kind of you though not to repeat the trite talking points.

I don't know where you live, but in the US those "trite talking points" are also known as 35 years of jurisprudence.

[LadyFinn]

A long article in Bergens Tidende, bt.no

The Palace vs. The Press
Slottet vs. pressen - bt.no
Translation

[fairy tale]

On behalf of the Royal Family, a complaint was sent to the Press Complaints Commission (as well as to Se og Hør). They complain about breaches of press ethics.
kongehuset.no - Klager Se og Hør inn for PFU
Google Translation
"Through consideration of this complaint, we want the separate press complaints commission, PFU, among other things, to clarify to what extent it believes that the Royal Family members have a right to privacy when they are in places that are accessible to the public. It is particularly important for the Royal Family that children's privacy are protected even in situations where adult family members are present." (Google Translation)

the full complaint here
http://www.kongehuset.no/binfil/down...php?tid=114446