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Won't they also be Count/Countess of Monpezat if I understand it correctly?
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No, the title is reserved for male-line descendants of Crown Prince Frederik and Prince Joachim.
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I supposed you was talking about Princess Isabella's children.
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07-05-2013, 06:29 PM
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Thanks, had forgotten it was in the male line only.
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10-31-2013, 08:34 PM
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Will Marius ever receive a title or not? Is it because he is HRH Prince Haakon's stepson? Could they not make him a duke or a count? Would they
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11-01-2013, 03:17 AM
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Will Marius ever receive a title or not? Is it because he is HRH Prince Haakon's stepson? Could they not make him a duke or a count? Would they
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He is not related to a royal in anyway, there is no logical reason he should be given one. If Haakon chooses to give him one out of sentimentality then that's far enough. However it would mean Marcus would have to perform duties for the RF, which I doubt he wants to.
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11-01-2013, 04:19 AM
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He is not related to a royal in anyway, there is no logical reason he should be given one. If Haakon chooses to give him one out of sentimentality then that's far enough. However it would mean Marcus would have to perform duties for the RF, which I doubt he wants to.
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How is he not related to royals? He is the stepson of the CP. His two younger half-siblings are royal, and one will be Queen one day. His mother will be Queen one day.
I wouldn't say that he needs a title, or that he should be given one and then expected to fill a royal role, but I can see how it could be reasoned that he might want one. I think it would really just all depend on his relationship with the NRF.
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11-01-2013, 04:44 AM
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From what I read, they don't have titles in Norway. So they can't give Marius one.
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11-01-2013, 04:46 AM
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I think it would really just all depend on his relationship with the NRF.
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Which I think is very warm and affectionate, as I always had the impression that The King and Queen consider Marius as one of their grandchildren.
But I think Norway does not have a nobility, so I don't think King Harald V, King Haakon VIII or Queen Ingrid (his half-sister, which makes him a blood close relative of a Royal) will give him a title.
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11-01-2013, 06:45 AM
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How is he not related to royals? He is the stepson of the CP. His two younger half-siblings are royal, and one will be Queen one day. His mother will be Queen one day.
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He is not blood related or married to or born to a royal. He is the stepson by marriage to the future King. His mother will not be the Queen Regnant, she will be Queen Consort. Related by marriage means little in my opinion.
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11-01-2013, 08:01 AM
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From what I read, they don't have titles in Norway. So they can't give Marius one.
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Yes,the Norwegian Nobility was abolished in the early 19th Century.
Nobility Law (Norway) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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11-01-2013, 08:12 AM
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I am very curious why they abolished it.
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11-01-2013, 09:39 AM
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well, that explains that I guess.
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11-01-2013, 09:44 AM
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He is not blood related or married to or born to a royal. He is the stepson by marriage to the future King. His mother will not be the Queen Regnant, she will be Queen Consort. Related by marriage means little in my opinion.
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I think you're missing - or trying to ignore - the fact that his sister will be The Queen of Norway one day.
Marius is blood related to two Royals by birth.
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11-01-2013, 10:06 AM
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I think you're missing - or trying to ignore - the fact that his sister will be The Queen of Norway one day.
Marius is blood related to two Royals by birth.
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I kind of agree with Lumutqueen here. Its the blood relationship to the future King here that is the determining factor. Although Marius is related by blood to his half siblings, its through the matriarchial line that has married into the royal family.
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11-01-2013, 10:13 AM
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Is through the matriarchial line that has married into the royal family.
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Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that his two half-siblings are Royals, and one of them will be The Queen one day.
Anyway, Marius will not have a title, because there's no nobility in Norway.
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11-01-2013, 10:18 AM
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Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that his two half-siblings are Royals, and one of them will be The Queen one day.
Anyway, Marius will not have a title, because there's no nobility in Norway.
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I would imagine in the family structure, Marius is just as well loved as his siblings are and they have a close relationship. No title or a title doesn't make any difference in that respect. As the years go by, I think Marius very well could one day be heard to say "my sister, the Queen". 
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11-01-2013, 10:20 AM
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Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that his two half-siblings are Royals, and one of them will be The Queen one day.
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Having two royal half-siblings doesn't make him royal or entitled to a title and frankly, I don't see how a title for Marius would be considered necessary? He's not royal, merely the brother of the future Queen and you can be the brother of the future Queen without being titled.
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11-01-2013, 10:22 AM
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I would imagine in the family structure, Marius is just as well loved as his siblings are and they have a close relationship. No title or a title doesn't make any difference in that respect. As the years go by, I think Marius very well could one day be heard to say "my sister, the Queen". |
I agree.
I believe Marius will always have a position - albeit not an official one - within the Royal Family.
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11-01-2013, 10:25 AM
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Having two royal half-siblings doesn't make him royal or entitled to a title and frankly, I don't see how a title for Marius would be considered necessary? He's not royal, merely the brother of the future Queen and you can be the brother of the future Queen without being titled.
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I never said he's a Royal or entitled to a title. I said he's blood related to Royals by birth.
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11-10-2013, 04:52 PM
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From what I read, they don't have titles in Norway. So they can't give Marius one.
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True.........
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