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Old 07-16-2019, 09:37 PM
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The middle name of Philippe that King Leopold II had may have been to honor his maternal grandfather, King Louis Philippe I of the French.
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Old 07-16-2019, 10:19 PM
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HRH Prince Charles, Count of Flanders who's Regency last from 1944 until 1950 was possibly the most dangerous era for the Belgian monarchy with the 1950 Referendum on the Monarchy.
Yes, but during his regency happened a lot of social, economical, political and international relations endeavors.

1 Benelux Customs Union Treaty signed in 1944 and was taken into effect in 1948.
2 Belgium became a member state of the UN on December 1945
3 Passage of Women's Suffrage of March 1948.
4 Belgium managed to jump-start its economy under the Marshall plan.

To name a few.

But there's one thing that I would have wanted him to do otherwise;

1 The bequest of The Leuchtenberg Fabergé Tiara to his younger sister Queen Marie José of Italy. (It might have another path if it was left in Belgium.)
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:33 PM
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And he seems to have held the kingdom together for his nephew Baudouin!

Charles is possibly an underrated and largely forgotten figure.
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Yes, but during his regency happened a lot of social, economical, political and international relations endeavors.

1 Benelux Customs Union Treaty signed in 1944 and was taken into effect in 1948.
2 Belgium became a member state of the UN on December 1945
3 Passage of Women's Suffrage of March 1948.
4 Belgium managed to jump-start its economy under the Marshall plan.

To name a few.

But there's one thing that I would have wanted him to do otherwise;

1 The bequest of The Leuchtenberg Fabergé Tiara to his younger sister Queen Marie José of Italy. (It might have another path if it was left in Belgium.)

King Albert II could have bought back the Fabergé tiara from the Savoys, but he chose to buy a yatch instead. Ironically, the tiara ended up in the United States (a most unlikely place).
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Was there ever a consideration to have Prince Charles, Count of Flanders become the King?
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:29 AM
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And he seems to have held the kingdom together for his nephew Baudouin! Charles is possibly an underrated and largely forgotten figure.
Charles is definitely an underrated figure. But he's always lowkey like that. Some sources would describe him as someone who's very "reclusive."


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King Albert II could have bought back the Fabergé tiara from the Savoys, but he chose to buy a yatch instead. Ironically, the tiara ended up in the United States (a most unlikely place).
This is so sad. The Fabergé tiara is one of the three tiaras that should have stayed in Belgium. Another one is the Queen Maria-José's Beauharnais Pearl Tiara that she took to Italy after her wedding and the Queen Elisabeth's Cartier Bandeau that was given to Lilian and was later sold by Lilian and later reacquired by Cartier.


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Was there ever a consideration to have Prince Charles, Count of Flanders become the King?
I doubt he likes the idea to be King as well.

As Leopold was still in German custody, it was decided that they should have a regent. It was declared in 20 September 1944 that Leopold "unable to reign" and his reclusive brother Prince Charles took an oath the next day.
After the war, a referendum happened in March 1950 and Leopold returned to Belgium and instability took place.

Prince Charles retired from public life, cut his contacts with his brother and stayed in Ostend and pursued being an artist under the name "Karel van Vlaanderen." Some years later, he also gave up his stipend from the Belgian government as he no longer participated in any royal activities.

We only can assume that he really didn't like the spotlight and he has other interests other than that of being in power.

Since the return of Leopold won the plebiscite, it's safe to say that national sentiment was with him (technically Prince Charles was just really a proxy in his absence) but it was also quick for them to hate him as he was forced to abdicated a few months later.
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