Queen Beatrix Announces Abdication: January 28, 2013

[tundra]

I think HM will have lots of time to help Amalia learn about her new role and it would be nice if they did events together as PoO and mentor.

I can't imagine how school was for the girls today.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by KittyAtlanta

It is possible that all the current major European CPs & CPss's will take their thrones before Charles & Camilla. Who knows what the future holds.

I think at last Victoria will not become Queen before Charles becomes King. As the King has stated several times that he will not abdicate and the Bernadottes become usually very old so when he stays on until his death it could be around 2040 that Victoria becomes Queen.

[Empress Merel]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I think at last Victoria will not become Queen before Charles becomes King. As the King has stated several times that he will not abdicate and the Bernadottes become usually very old so when he stays on until his death it could be around 2040 that Victoria becomes Queen.

Victoria probably wants to be able to enjoy a few good years being a mother and a Crown Princess first rather than the Queen.

[madrid]

I wonder if WA and Maxima knew last week that Queen Beatrix will abdicate?

[KittyAtlanta]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I think at last Victoria will not become Queen before Charles becomes King. As the King has stated several times that he will not abdicate and the Bernadottes become usually very old so when he stays on until his death it could be around 2040 that Victoria becomes Queen.

Well, that would make Carl-Gustav 94, but will he be of sound mind? Who knows.

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Marengo

The prince of Wales attended the funeral of prince Claus and the wedding of the prince of Orange. I believe the funerals of Juliana and Bernhard were attended by the duke of Edinburgh. Willem-Alexander and Máxima did attend a small part of the wedding of William, and they attended a birthday party of the prince of Wales. The prince of Wales also attended the 60th birthday party of the Queen. The wedding of Charles & Camilla was attended by Constantijn and Laurentien.

I wouldn't be surprised if the first state visit of the King will be to the UK. Belgium, Luxembourg and Germany were all visited by HM fairly recently & it is the custom to visit neighbouring countries first.

Well I didn't know any of that! Thanks for the info, seems like Charles is closer to the Dutch than I thought.

Originally Posted by madrid

I wonder if WA and Maxima knew last week that Queen Beatrix will abdicate?

Well I'm pretty sure they didn't find out yesterday.

[dbarn67]

Originally Posted by madrid

I wonder if WA and Maxima knew last week that Queen Beatrix will abdicate?

Mostly likely they've known for a long time.

[Prinsessan]

Wow, this is a surprise! Even though it's been speculated about... I have to say I really like the way they do it in the Netherlands, I think Beatrix has done a fantastic job and can abdicate in good conscience.
This is really exciting, the first ones of our "crown princely gang" becoming king and queen I hope we get to see some foreign royals at the inauguration! Too bad it's also Carl Gustaf's birthday, hopefully Victoria and Daniel will come nevertheless.

[Meraude]

Originally Posted by KittyAtlanta

Well, that would make Carl-Gustav 94, but will he be of sound mind? Who knows.

Several members of the Bernadotte family have lived past their 90ieth birhtday, and there doesn't seem to be any hereditary diseases in the family that weakens the mind, there is no reason why Carl Gustaf shouldn't be of a sound mind if he lives into his 90ies.

[Baroness of Books]

Originally Posted by Prinsessan

Wow, this is a surprise! Even though it's been speculated about... I have to say I really like the way they do it in the Netherlands, I think Beatrix has done a fantastic job and can abdicate in good conscience.
This is really exciting, the first ones of our "crown princely gang" becoming king and queen I hope we get to see some foreign royals at the inauguration! Too bad it's also Carl Gustaf's birthday, hopefully Victoria and Daniel will come nevertheless.

I find this exciting as well, and kudos to Queen Beatrix for her wonderful reign and class act in the manner of her abdication. I'm actually off on April 30 and will be able to watch any live coverage of what is tantamount to a coronation, but without all the bells and whistles. This is such an historic occasion and I'm glad to be witnessing it.

[Duchess of Durham]

Originally Posted by Baroness of Books

I find this exciting as well, and kudos to Queen Beatrix for her wonderful reign and class act in abdicating. I'm actually off on April 30 and will be able to watch any live coverage of what is tantamount to a coronation, but without all the bells and whistles. This is such an historic occasion and I'm glad to be witnessing it.

As of this moment, I am not off. When things become clearer with regards to what is happening that day, I may take the morning off.

[Al_bina]

Abdication of Queen Beatrix | Spletnik.ru

[cdm]

Originally Posted by tundra

I can't imagine how school was for the girls today.

I was thinking about that too.
I imangined the 3 A's having conversations with their class mates about what they had seen on TV the night before and them answering: We saw our grandmother announce her abdication and our mum&dad will be King&Queen in a few months

I'm really impressed by the open and fast communication on every subject by Het Koninklijk Huis

[LadyGabrielle]

O.k. I dont understand. Why are Princess Margriet and her family no longer members of the royal house when this happens?

[Artemisia]

Originally Posted by LadyGabrielle

O.k. I dont understand. Why are Princess Margriet and her family no longer members of the royal house when this happens?

Princess Margriet will remain member of the Royal House, her sons Prince Maurits and Prince Bernhard (the only two who still hold succession rights) will, however, no longer be part of the House. That's because succession to the Dutch Throne is determines by proximity of blood, and the succession line is limited only to three degrees of kinship from the current Monarch.

Margriet still remains within those three degrees (as the future King's aunt) but her children are be related to Willem-Alexander by further than three degrees and will thus lose succession rights and cease to be members of the Royal House. For the same reason Maurits and Bernhard's children are not currently in the line of succession as they are within four degrees of kinship to the current Monarch, Queen Beatrix.

They will, of course, remain members of the Royal Family and will also retain all the styles and titles they currently have.
You can read a bit more about that here - Queen Beatrix’s Abdication: Changes and Traditions

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by LadyGabrielle

O.k. I dont understand. Why are Princess Margriet and her family no longer members of the royal house when this happens?

Member of the Royal House and line of succession to the Dutch Throne are determined by equal primogeniture and proximity of blood to the monarch. Margriet's two sons who are still in line are 4 degrees of kinship away from WA, and the Dutch constitution lists you have to be 3 away.

[ashelen]

I wonder why Maxima's parents will not be present? is a political move?

[LadyGabrielle]

Thanks for the link Artemisia, very interesting indeed. Not being very familiar with how things are done in the netherlands I found your explanation to be quite helpful and informative indeed. As for the future, I think WA and Maxima will be wonderful monarchs. It is a new time and a new generation for the people. I wonder if the event will be televised. Hope so.

[ashelen]

I remember once some people was with signs and complaining in the other side of the street about her father, was in her b-day or one of the christening? so it is clever from her part to be away in a situation like this. good for her. I wonder how long this was in the making?

[Artemisia]

Originally Posted by ashelen

I remember once some people was with signs and complaining in the other side of the street about her father, was in her b-day or one of the christening? so it is clever from her part to be away in a situation like this. good for her. I wonder how long this was in the making?

The small-scale protests took place during Catharina-Amalia's christening which Mr. Zorreguieta attended.
I think it was wise of Maxima to take the initiative and inform the Prime Minister of her parents' absence, to avoid any new debates or controversy.

Originally Posted by LadyGabrielle

Thanks for the link Artemisia, very interesting indeed. Not being very familiar with how things are done in the netherlands I found your explanation to be quite helpful and informative indeed. As for the future, I think WA and Maxima will be wonderful monarchs. It is a new time and a new generation for the people. I wonder if the event will be televised. Hope so.

I am glad the link was helpful, Lady Gabrielle. I am pretty certain the Inauguration ceremony will indeed be televised and am really waiting forward to it.