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01-24-2019, 04:05 PM
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Prince George Valdemar of Denmark
I am wondering about Prince George Valdemar Carl Axel of Denmark (1920-1986), a great-grandson of King Christian IX. In 1950, he married a minor British noble and divorcée, Anne, Viscountess Anson, née Bowes-Lyon, a niece of Queen Elizabeth of the UK (later the Queen Mother). It seems unlikely that this would be with the consent of the King of Denmark, but if that were the case, he would have been stripped of the title Prince of Denmark, reduced to being a Count of Rosenborg, like his brother and other relatives who married commoners.
It was a moot point, really, as he was (or would have been) removed from the line of succession to the Danish throne in 1953 anyway when it was limited to descendants of King Christian X. Also, he had no children to inherit either the non-dynastic title Count of Rosenborg or the dynastic (but non-successive) title Prince of Denmark.
So was he a Count of Rosenborg, or a Prince of Denmark (without succession rights after 1953) until his death?
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01-24-2019, 04:16 PM
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I believe that the king wanted to demote him to Count of Rosenborg but changed his mind. Anne was a niece of Queen Elizabeth and people supposedly thought that if a Bowes-Lyon was good enough for the king of England it is good enough for a minor Danish prince.
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08-18-2021, 07:12 PM
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08-19-2021, 05:53 AM
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Both the Order of the Elefant.
Prince Georg wears a lot of Decorations.
His Father's and his small Decorations were sold at an Auction in Paris by Count Flemming Heirs. I bougt a lovely item belonging to Princess Ingeborg our King Albert II Grandmother.
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08-19-2021, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by maria-olivia
Both the Order of the Elefant.
Prince Georg wears a lot of Decorations.
His Father's and his small Decorations were sold at an Auction in Paris by Count Flemming Heirs. I bougt a lovely item belonging to Princess Ingeborg our King Albert II Grandmother.
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Yes, I remember you writing about that once before. A small notebook, wasn't it?
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08-19-2021, 07:44 AM
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Yes a small silver note book with its silver pencil .
Inside a stylish I with above a Royal Crown. On the last page it is written with a pencil "Stasesia Cyanea" ?
Thanks for remembering !
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08-19-2021, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Viv
By 1950 standards a Danish Prince marrying a bride of non- royal descent and a divorcee at that would have been demoted to 'count of Rosenborg', especially when he was not in line of succession!
The story goes ( I picked it up on another royalty forum several years ago! ) - that on hearing this, King George VI said something along the lines that ' if a Bowes-Lyon is good enough for me a Bowes-Lyon is good enough for a Danish prince'.
I cannot guarantee the veracity of the King's remark but it sounds credible IMO, also considering the often firm will of his consort! I just cannot imagine that Queen Elizabeth (later the Queen Mother) would ever accept her niece being reduced to a mere 'countess' in a continental royal family.
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I hope the story is false. If it was the other way around, I doubt that the British royal family would have accepted the King and Queen of Denmark meddling in relation to how Birgitte van Deurs (a Danish woman who wed the cousin of the British queen) was treated.
King Frederik IX also gave full approval to the marriage of his daughter and heiress to a "mere" count in 1967. Differently from his father (who only approved marriages to spouses of equal birth), the marriages which Frederik IX refused to approve were all marriages to commoners.
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I do wonder what title their children would have received had they had any. Would they be HH and prince or princess like their father or would they have been made count or countess of Rosenberg? How far in descent from the crown can the princely titles go in Denmark?
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As other European royal houses did not begin limiting royal titles by degree of consanguinity until the late 20th century, I assume they would have been HH Prince and Princess to or of Denmark.
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08-19-2021, 09:28 AM
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Norwegian historian Trond Norén Isaksen wrote on Facebook earlier this summer that he was once told by Georg's sister-in-law, Countess Ruth of Rosenborg, that he'd pestered King Frederik until he relented and allowed Georg to keep his title. He was also later told by Princess Anne's daughter, Lady Elizabeth Anson, that the story about King George intervening on Georg's behalf was true. Apparently the King did really say "If a Bowes-Lyon was good enough for me, a Bowes-Lyon is surely good enough for one of your Princes."
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08-19-2021, 10:06 AM
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JR76 could Cyanea or Lyanea be a Swedish Wildflower ?
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12-21-2022, 02:42 PM
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JR76 could Cyanea or Lyanea be a Swedish Wildflower ?
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More a garden flower than a wildflower
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12-21-2022, 03:15 PM
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More a garden flower than a wildflower
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Thank you I will write this on a little paper to put in Princess Ingeborg silver notebook on the very page of Princess Ingeborg's handwriting
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