King Christian X

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Notice how most cyclists stay behind the King. It's bad manners to overtake the King.

Interesting. Is that still the case today?

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

Interesting. Is that still the case today?

I don't think it's a situation that arise very often nowadays. In any monarchy.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

Interesting. Is that still the case today?

Must have been great for Christian if he was in a cycle race

[Prinsara]

A feel-good double feature. Christian riding, and then hanging out with Frederik and family. :)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DuTtxvDWiqU

He and young Daisy (edit: Elisabeth!) appear to have been good friends.

[LibrarianDaisy]

Originally Posted by Prinsara

A feel-good double feature. Christian riding, and then hanging out with Frederik and family. :)

He and young Daisy appear to have been good friends.

Actually, the little girl was Princess Elisabeth - one of the babies was young Daisy, the other being her cousin Ingolf.

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by Denville

Must have been great for Christian if he was in a cycle race

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

As Count Ingolf himself said in the article, Knud's choice greatly upset his brother and sister-in-law.

Speaking of which, what did King Christian and Queen Alexandrine think of the argument and the feud between their sons?

[Prinsara]

Originally Posted by LibrarianDaisy

Actually, the little girl was Princess Elisabeth - one of the babies was young Daisy, the other being her cousin Ingolf.

Thanks. I must have missed Prince Knud in all this, and it's easy to get fooled when there are only three kids.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

Speaking of which, what did King Christian and Queen Alexandrine think of the argument and the feud between their sons?

I have no idea what Queen Alexandrine thought. Most likely she wasn't happy about it.
I don't think Christian X sensed much if any feud between the brothers.
After all Frederik and Ingrid, did their job as the model CP-family, and they had had at least one child when I died, so there was little reason not to expect the reigning line not continuing through Frederik and Ingrid.
It was basically after the death of Christian X, when it became clear that Frederik and Ingrid would not have more children, that the public discussion about the succession started.
And that it was quickly realized that Knud's children were not palatable to the public - being "ugly and stupid". Certainly in comparison to the model family of Frederik and Ingrid and the Three Little Princesses. - An image certainly Ingrid appears to have been cultivating.

That may have contributed to the misgivings by the Rosenborg's. I.e. they felt stabbed in the back by Frederik and not least his wife.
Speculation of course. And add to that that Ingrid had a great relationship with Christian X! She had him firmly wrapped around her little finger. - Perhaps she was the daughter he had wished for?

So to sum up: IMO it was not a question on the mind of Christian X, because it really didn't come up, while he was alive.

[Blog Real]

I read that the Prince Knud called the electorate "a shower of bastards" for voting for the change.

It appears that Prince Knud was not in favor of the new law.

How was the relationship between the two brothers after the new law came into force?

Perhaps that's why Queen Margrethe II, Princess Benedikte and Queen Anne-Marie never seemed to be very close to Prince Knud's children.

[JR76]

Originally Posted by Blog Real

I read that the Prince Knud called the electorate "a shower of bastards" for voting for the change.

It appears that Prince Knud was not in favor of the new law.

How was the relationship between the two brothers after the new law came into force?

Perhaps that's why Queen Margrethe II, Princess Benedikte and Queen Anne-Marie never seemed to be very close to Prince Knud's children.

The relationship was strained. Knud and Caroline-Mathilde saw very little of Frederik and Ingrid except for when meeting "on the job".

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Blog Real

I read that the Prince Knud called the electorate "a shower of bastards" for voting for the change.

It appears that Prince Knud was not in favor of the new law.

How was the relationship between the two brothers after the new law came into force?

Perhaps that's why Queen Margrethe II, Princess Benedikte and Queen Anne-Marie never seemed to be very close to Prince Knud's children.

That's more than likely!

Knud was not at all in favor of the Change of Succession. As in no way!

Their relationship soured, that's for sure.
I don't think Knud ever forgave his brother, for what he saw as a betrayal. But Frederik was Frederik IX at that time, he followed the wishes of the politicians and the people. And the people clearly said: We don't want Knud! We don't like him. Nor do we want his children.
Princess Margrethe was at the time just a little girl and no one really knew her.
But Knud's children were older and they were to some extent known by the public. They weren't nearly as cute as the Three Little Princesses and they had acted awkwardly in public. - Who wouldn't when you are uncomfortable in the public glare?

Frederik IX had the crucial back up by the politicians. They liked him (and his wife), they respected him (and especially his wife!) and he was not nearly as conservative as his brother Knud. - And Frederik IX was not going to make a mistake like the one his father did in 1920, and antagonizing the politicians and the public.
Keep in mind that the press, newspapers, was way more party-political than it is today. If the head of the Social Democratic party was in favor of Princess Margrethe, the Social Democratic newspapers were also in favor.
And apart from that of course Frederik IX sided with his beloved wife. He was a doting husband.

There was a long bitterness within the Rosenborg family towards Frederik IX branch of the family. So yes, it's pretty safe to say that there wasn't a close relationship between the Rosenborgs and QMII in particular.
It's no secret that QMII adores her father. If anyone had issues with her father, she would side with her father, 100 %! And probably because she more than anyone of course understand the situation her father was in - both being monarchs.

It was actually Count Ingolf who approached the Frederik IX branch and established a good relationship with them. Something the rest of the Rosenborg's didn't exactly support - according to his own account.

- All that is based on a number of interviews in the Rosenborg thread and not least the excellent documentary about Frederik IX covered in details elsewhere.

[Prinsara]

It's possible we're getting away from Christian and onto issues that have already had their own threads, though.

Would Christian have supported Margrethe as a future sovereign over Ingolf?

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Prinsara

It's possible we're getting away from Christian and onto issues that have already had their own threads, though.

Would Christian have supported Margrethe as a future sovereign over Ingolf?

IMO, no.
Not at all.

He was a very conservative man and I doubt he believed a woman should sit on the throne, if there was a male alternative.

He would no doubt have done his utmost to support her, had Princess Margrethe been the only alternative. But at the same time also been deeply worried for her - and perhaps the monarchy. Of that I'm certain.

He had also learned however, and he would, I think grudgingly and not at all happy, have followed the wishes of the politicians and the public, since he himself got very close to losing the throne.

[An Ard Ri]

And Christian X was the only ever king of Iceland and reigned from 1918 until the 1944 declaration of the Republic of Iceland following the referendum in May of that year.

[CyrilVladisla]

If there had been no new law of succession and Christian X had lived longer, do you think he would have have encouraged Prince Knud to use his first middle name of Christian as his regnal name to continue the alternating Christians and Frederiks of Danish sovereigns? Prince Knud would thus have been King Christian XI if he used the name of Christian after succeeding Frederik IX.

[JR76]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

If there had been no new law of succession and Christian X had lived longer, do you think he would have have encouraged Prince Knud to use his first middle name of Christian as his regnal name to continue the alternating Christians and Frederiks of Danish sovereigns? Prince Knud would thus have been King Christian XI if he used the name of Christian after succeeding Frederik IX.

There's no question that Knud would have become Christian X had the succession not been changed. The tradition of alternate regnal names are so strong that historically many Danish princes have been named both Christian and Frederik just in case.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by JR76

There's no question that Knud would have become Christian X had the succession not been changed. The tradition of alternate regnal names are so strong that historically many Danish princes have been named both Christian and Frederik just in case.

You mean he would have become Christian XI. as he could hardly ´have the same regnal number then his father

[Prinsara]

Originally Posted by Stefan

You mean he would have become Christian XI. as he could hardly ´have the same regnal number then his father

You mean grandfather?

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Prinsara

You mean grandfather?

Prince Knud was the son of King Christian X.

[Prinsara]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Prince Knud was the son of King Christian X.

Then neither Knud nor Ingolf would have reigned as Christian X.