King Christian X

[ysbel]

Originally Posted by Furienna

Maria Feodorovna would have been his aunt. It's possible. Can someone verify this?

Yes, Marie Feodorvna was the younger sister of Christian's father, King Frederik VIII. She had been christened Princess Dagmar in Denmark and had been betrothed to the Russian tsarevich, Nicholas, while a young girl. Nixa died and Dagmar married his younger brother, later to become Alexander III. She changed her name to Marie Feodorovna at that time.

[norwegianne]

Originally Posted by flctylu

I just saw one of the "A Royal Family: The Father In Law of Europe" episodes. I recall it said that she was extremely hard to get along with - one incident, something about saving electricity [Chris X] [?] Marie did the opposite and turned all the lights on in a palace [?]

It is one episode of their relationship, that is often brought into the light.

Marie/Dagmar was most likely used to the wealth/power she'd had in Russia. Denmark at the time, however, was not a wealthy country, and I've read, in the biography about Frederik IX, that the King even chose to get less money from the state than he'd done before - possibly as to not incite the people's ire.

[JPhinala]

The story goes something like this:

King Christian X, irritated at the Dowager Empress, send a messanger to tell her that if she was not going to be in every room of her suite if she would please turn off the lights. Seeing as the Dowager had company and was very much embarresed she sent her footman to "turn on every light in the wing" and he did. From the attic to the cellar.

[JPhinala]

Christian X made a speech in August of 1943 against the occupying forces which resulted in his imprisonment for the remainder of the war. Does anyone know here I can find a copy of this speech? Preferably in English but I can translate it if I have to. Thanks!

[PssMarie-Elisabeth]

Crown Princess Lovisa & little Prince Christian

http://i36.tinypic.com/ofne3k.jpg

* Notice the 1870's sleeve collar on her dress*

[PssMarie-Elisabeth]

[Furienna]

Those are lovely pictures!

[PssMarie-Elisabeth]

Originally Posted by Furienna

Those are lovely pictures!

Thanks for the compliment, Cheesy

[grandlordbenji16]

christian x seem to inherit his grandfather believe that kings has more right than those installed by parliament and he has his mother charachter which his to never let his children forget he is their sovereign and head of the dnasty

[Lumutqueen]

I think he was a wonderfully brave man for what he did. The story of the King and the Star of David is remarkable.

[Archduchess Zelia]

One of Denmark's best kings! (:

[maria-olivia]

Alexandrine was more lucky than her sister Cecilia (Cecilienhof), her husband Christian became King of Danemark and the Crown-Prince Wilhelm of Prussia never became emperor.
I have 4 questions
1) Was Christian X faithful to his wife ?
2) Did Christian X know that the heir of Danemark would be Margareta and not
Ingolf , Prince Knuds'son ?
3) normally Frederic succeeds a Christian , like now .
Ingolf was not a heir's surname but Margarete well, the danes venerate their Queen Margarethe I, (Roskild church)
4) Did Ingrid and Frederic IX thought they should have only one child ??
Thanks for answer

[Archduchess Zelia]

Hi Maria-Olivia (:

1) I believe that Christian was faithful, I haven't heard any stories of Christian cheeting on his wife.
4) I don't think so, I believe that they were very disappointed not to get a boy ...
Hope that you could use the answers (:

[Marsel]

Originally Posted by maria-olivia

1) Was Christian X faithful to his wife ?

As Archduchess Zelia mentioned, it appears that King Christian was faithful to Queen Alexandrine. At least, there is no evidence to suggest the opposite.
Of course, people were a lot more discreet in those days, so even if the King had affairs, it could well be hidden from public knowledge (note: this does NOT mean he did, it is merely possible, albeit not probable).

2) Did Christian X know that the heir of Danemark would be Margareta and not Ingolf , Prince Knuds'son ?

King Christian died in 1947. At the time, his eldest son (Frederik IX) was 48 and Ingrid was 37. Their youngest child, Princess Anne-Marie was born just a year earlier. It was well possible they could have another child, a son. Thus, King Christian could hardly be certain that Knud (or Knud's male heirs) would succeed Frederik. That was a definite possibility, however, as the Royal Ordinance of 1853 wasn't cancelled yet: the Act of Succession which established Cognatic Primogeniture was passed 6 years after King Christian's death, in 1953.
From 1947 to 1953 Knud was known as Heir Presumptive (his official title was His Royal Highness The Hereditary Prince of Denmark).

3) normally Frederic succeeds a Christian , like now . Ingolf was not a heir's surname but Margarete well, the danes venerate their Queen Margarethe I, (Roskild church)

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Prince Ingolf was born in 1940, two months before Queen Margrethe. There was a definite possibility the baby Princess Ingrid was expecting would be a boy. There were also chances Frederik would welcome sons in future, so there was really no reason why Knud had to name his son Christian or Frederik. Moreover, it is possible that the names were 'reserved' for the possible sons of the Crown Prince.
Ingolf did have 'Christian' and 'Frederik' as his second and third names respectively (his full name is Ingolf Christian Frederik Knud Harald Gorm Gustav Viggo Valdemar), so if he were to succeed to the Throne, he could presumably use 'Christian' or "Frederik' as his regnant name. There were a lot of precedents for this: Frederik IX, for example, was born Christian Frederik Franz Michael Carl Valdemar Georg but chose to reign under his second given name. Frederick VIII was born Christian Frederik Vilhelm Carl and again chose to reign under his second given name.

4) Did Ingrid and Frederic IX thought they should have only one child ??

Apparently they didn't, as they had 3 - Margrethe, Benedikte and Anne-Marie. I assume they would be glad to have at least one more child, a son. There is really no reason why they should have thought they were limited to one-child only.


Hope this helps.

[maria-olivia]

Marsel , I appreciate your 4 answers.
You are right later princes may change their names when they are kings : like Georges VI of GB and Haakon VII of Norway.
Hot thanks to you and kind regards - Maria-Olivia.
Is the name of Prince Knud's second son Chistian ?

[Marsel]

Originally Posted by maria-olivia

Marsel , I appreciate your 4 answers.
You are right later princes may change their names when they are kings : like Georges VI of GB and Haakon VII of Norway.
Hot thanks to you and kind regards - Maria-Olivia.
Is the name of Prince Knud's second son Chistian ?

My pleasure, Maria-Olivia!
Yes, the name of Prince Knud's second son is Christian. His full name is Christian Frederik Franz Knud Harald Carl Oluf Gustav Georg Erik (he thus shares 5 of his names with his brother - Christian Frederik Knud Harald and Gustav).

[EmpressRouge]

I remember reading somewhere (maybe in these forums) that when the Prince Charles becomes King of the UK, there will once again be a reigning monarch with Romanov blood (through his great-grandmother, Grand Duchess Olga Costantinovna). Actually, Romanov bloods runs through the Danish monarchs since 1947. Queen Alexandrine's mother was born Grand Duchess Anastasia Mikhailovna.

[jonnydep]

yes you are correct......also the daugther in law of king christan X (queen ingrid) had romanoff blood, through her grandmother queen victoria of sweden (nee baden) and therefore the same thing can be said of the swedish monarchs since 1950 !!

paul, tsar of russia > maria of russia > augusta of saxe-weimar > louise of prussia > victoria of baden (queen of sweden).

[Furienna]

Now that you mention it, Jonnydep, I've read about Victoria of Baden being in love with a Russian prince (Could it have been the future ysar Nikolai II?), but she wasn't allowed to marry him, as they were too closely related, so she ended up marrying prince Gustav (future king Gustav V) of Sweden instead.

[EmpressRouge]

Another Swedish-Russian bloodline ties via the Saxe-Weimar/Prussian line:

Paul I > Maria Pavlova > Marie of Saxe-Weimar > Frederick Charles of Prussia > Louise Margaret of Prussia > Margaret of Connaught, Crown Princess of Sweden

It was another Nicholas, Grand Duke Nicholas Mikhailovich, Victoria wanted to marry. The Russian Orthodox prohibited marriages between first cousins, and Nicholas was the son of her aunt Cecilie of Baden (GD Olga Feodorovna) and GD Michael Nikolaevich.