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Old 02-05-2004, 07:23 AM
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Abir Muhaisen News and Pictures: Part 1

I am curious about the whereabouts of Abeer Muhaisin and if anybody has any recent pictures or links to news related to Abeer Muhaisin.

This is one of the recent images I found on the net for Abeer.
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Old 02-08-2004, 01:51 PM
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Ok I found some stuff but its 4 years old. Apperently Abeer is living in the USA. Some where in the Washington area. She is working as a teacher at a school or college not sure which.

I am sure she is working to make herself usefull as I am sure King Hussain must have left her with a trust or something that will insure a respectfull life for the future.

If anybody has information to confirm the above or can elabortate I would sure be gratefull !!!
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I actually heard that she's working at an organization in Jordan which helps send Jordanian students to study in American colleges and universities.
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Old 05-17-2004, 10:58 AM
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Abir Muhaisen News and Pictures: Part 1

Hello,
Can someone give some news from Abir Muhaisen adn how she is considered throught the JRF ? We haven't heard from her for a very long time and also, I was surprised that during King Hussein funeral's we have not seen her. Was she in Jordan at the time ?
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Old 05-17-2004, 05:21 PM
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where is she now i didnt saw her 4 long time???????????
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Old 05-18-2004, 04:48 PM
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The last time I saw her was at Hamzah's wedding in August. I don't know where she is. We don't really hear much about her.

I think she's considered as one of KH's daughters although she is not a princess. I think KH always treated her as one of his children. It didn't occur to me that she wasn't at the funeral. I'm sure she was there but I haven't seen any pictures of her at the funeral.
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Old 06-14-2004, 06:35 AM
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She was at the wedding, i saw her on TV at the beginnin she was walking in with P.Haya and Rym (UGH)
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Old 07-24-2005, 02:27 AM
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Abir Muhaisen


Abir was adopted into the Royal household which means she should be given all the rights and titles as the other royal children. But discrimination was set right from the time she was adopted. She was never given the title of a princess though she was called a daughter of KH. She was also in news only till KH was alive after which she just faded into the background. Several royal weddings have taken place and group photographs of all children of KH together but she is always missings. Several articles have mentioned KA of having 6 sisters. Again Abir is out. Most importantly, she was always mentioned as Abir Muhaisen and not Abir Bint Al Hussein to remind her that she was always an outsider. But it is amazing that brave Abir has taken all this in her stride and has always counted her blessings instead of complaining. I can say Well done Abir but I equally blame the royal family of singling her out. Any comments?
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She wasn't at Phamzah's wedding? ALso, isn't her father still alive. But I totally see what you are saying. She is ignored.
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:16 AM
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Here is an earlier thread about her: http://69.56.211.53/forums/showthread.php?t=2315. It does confirm that she was at PHamzah's wedding. I am sure she went to, KH's funeral as well.
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Abir was adopted into the Royal household which means she should be given all the rights and titles as the other royal children. But discrimination was set right from the time she was adopted. She was never given the title of a princess though she was called a daughter of KH. She was also in news only till KH was alive after which she just faded into the background. Several royal weddings have taken place and group photographs of all children of KH together but she is always missings. Several articles have mentioned KA of having 6 sisters. Again Abir is out. Most importantly, she was always mentioned as Abir Muhaisen and not Abir Bint Al Hussein to remind her that she was always an outsider. But it is amazing that brave Abir has taken all this in her stride and has always counted her blessings instead of complaining. I can say Well done Abir but I equally blame the royal family of singling her out. Any comments?
you are so right.really sad story.
once i heard she lives in the states.
i only know the facts queen noor mentioned in her book.think they have contact?!
maybe she doesnt want the publicity?
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Old 07-24-2005, 02:46 PM
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well, the fact that her last name was not changed is an Islamic custom - not something the JRF did on its own. In Islam, a child's last name must reflect her biological father (for many reasons.)

and i don't think any royal family would give a non-blood member royal status (except, of course, through marriage.) so again, i don't see that action as discrimanatory.


Also, how can we say Abir is not treated equally? I am sure she was much loved by her adopted family but the fact that King HUssein's wives kept on changing is maybe why she didn't form a really close bond. I'm sure she maintains a close relationship with the jrf but maybe she herself wants to be closer with her biological family...
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Abir was certainly loved by the Royal family. That is why Abir consider herself lucky. But this doesn't mean that she should be ignored at royal weddings and functions, after all she grew up and shared her life with them. Surely, they can invite her and count her as their sister while posing for cameras.

Regarding her biological family, she didn't have one. All her family perished in the plane crash over her house expect her father who wanted her to live in an orphanage. Serendipity is what brought Abir to the RF with the help of QA. So, I don't think she would like to go back to her father who didn't want her in the first place. Royal titles are easily conferred by the monarch which was also described in QN's book and there was an example of it too, though I don't remember the name of the man who was conferred the honorary title Prince. So, they could have conferred her the title HRH Princess Abir Muhaisen atleast keeping in line with the Islamic customs. :)
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well, the fact that her last name was not changed is an Islamic custom - not something the JRF did on its own. In Islam, a child's last name must reflect her biological father (for many reasons.)

and i don't think any royal family would give a non-blood member royal status (except, of course, through marriage.) so again, i don't see that action as discrimanatory.


Also, how can we say Abir is not treated equally? I am sure she was much loved by her adopted family but the fact that King HUssein's wives kept on changing is maybe why she didn't form a really close bond. I'm sure she maintains a close relationship with the jrf but maybe she herself wants to be closer with her biological family...
I totally agree with you, look at CP Haakon of Norway, he is raising CP MM's illegitimate son, and he doesn't have any rights of succesion, or title!!!
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Abir was adopted into the Royal household which means she should be given all the rights and titles as the other royal children. But discrimination was set right from the time she was adopted. She was never given the title of a princess though she was called a daughter of KH. She was also in news only till KH was alive after which she just faded into the background. Several royal weddings have taken place and group photographs of all children of KH together but she is always missings. Several articles have mentioned KA of having 6 sisters. Again Abir is out. Most importantly, she was always mentioned as Abir Muhaisen and not Abir Bint Al Hussein to remind her that she was always an outsider. But it is amazing that brave Abir has taken all this in her stride and has always counted her blessings instead of complaining. I can say Well done Abir but I equally blame the royal family of singling her out. Any comments?

she was adopted in 1976. I thought Hayah, at least ,was very close to her, so Hayah herself wrote in her own website. I think she was at Hamzah's wedding.
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You know I checked ou tQN's book and in the index it says "Abir, Princess (daughter)". I wonder why she put that. I think it was very thoughtful for QN to note her as Princess
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well, the fact that her last name was not changed is an Islamic custom - not something the JRF did on its own. In Islam, a child's last name must reflect her biological father (for many reasons.)

and i don't think any royal family would give a non-blood member royal status (except, of course, through marriage.) so again, i don't see that action as discrimanatory.


Also, how can we say Abir is not treated equally? I am sure she was much loved by her adopted family but the fact that King HUssein's wives kept on changing is maybe why she didn't form a really close bond. I'm sure she maintains a close relationship with the jrf but maybe she herself wants to be closer with her biological family...

she has a very good relationship with QN, as Abir lives in Washington DC, She calls very often QN, and I heard they are quite close.

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I wonder where Abir is right now. Is she married and to whom? Where does she live in Jordan or Washington? Does she have children?
I think she's working there, in Washington DC, for US gov, but not sure......
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Old 07-29-2005, 12:28 PM
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Abir was adopted into the Royal household which means she should be given all the rights and titles as the other royal children. But discrimination was set right from the time she was adopted. She was never given the title of a princess though she was called a daughter of KH. She was also in news only till KH was alive after which she just faded into the background. Several royal weddings have taken place and group photographs of all children of KH together but she is always missings. Several articles have mentioned KA of having 6 sisters. Again Abir is out. Most importantly, she was always mentioned as Abir Muhaisen and not Abir Bint Al Hussein to remind her that she was always an outsider. But it is amazing that brave Abir has taken all this in her stride and has always counted her blessings instead of complaining. I can say Well done Abir but I equally blame the royal family of singling her out. Any comments?
I don't think that Abir has been singled out, but lets face it she is a more low key member of the family. I don't blame her 4staying out of the spotlight. Just because she does not share the same sirname as her family, does not mean that she is not loved equally. I 4one would like 2c more of her @public appearances, but i guess she has decided not 2play a huge public role in Jordan.
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Old 07-30-2005, 10:11 PM
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QN thanks Abir for helping with her memoirs so I always assumed their relationship was close and continues to be. I think Abir--given all the ups and downs of her life--is more apt to "go with the flow" and chooses not to be part of the more frenetic world of the JRF. She certainly seems to be a very stable, responsible young woman who deserves to be part of any and all celebrations going on within the family.
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I always liked this photo of Abir and King Hussein(from the King Hussein photo bank). :)

http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/images/album_d357.jpg
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