Prince Albert Is the Father of Alexandre

destiny · #1 07-04-2005, 11:56 AM

I have just read the latest article on the prince Albert situation by a Magazine called L'Express the headline states "Why Albert of Monaco chooses to tell the truth".

In the english translation to make a long story short this is what it is basically saying. Nicole and Albert had a relationship. Things were going nice at first as she and Albert spent a lot of time together in the open in France, they want out places in public together, but when they came to Monaco they had to be very discreet about their relationship. Nicole was in love with Albert and was hoping to be his wife. She forgot to take protection when they made love and got pregeant.Albert told her not to abort the baby, and little Alexandre was born.

Problems began in the relationship,because for sometime albert kept promising Nicole he would give the baby his name and acknowledge the child is his. He told her after the mourning period, than changed again and said maybe the end of the year. Nicole went to the media because she was frustrated with Alberts lies and promises, when in fact he never was planning to acknowlege the baby. Nicole was a very frustrated mother, who didnot want her child to grow a bastard so she exposed the story to the media as a way to get Albert to address the situation. Albert now after consulting with his lawyers has in private discussions has agreed to openly admit to the childs paternity that he is indeed the baby's father. We now have to wait and see who he will name his heir during his enthronment.

destiny · #2 07-04-2005, 12:06 PM

Now for my personal opinions on the matter. I admire Nicole to the fullest, for standing up for not only her rights, but the rights of that little baby. Albert to me is a fully grown man who chooses to avoid any form of responsibility whatsoever.

That baby didnot ask to be here, he fathered that child. And the fact that the mother had to go to such embrassing lengths for him to acknowlege what he did is a total disgrace!!!. I donot care if he is a prince or not, but hte fact that he is one,he should be more of an example to the public. I doubt he is going to marry Nicole,but if I was her even he asked I would say no!. She was good enough to have sex with, but not good enough to acknowlege, that this is indeed the mother of my child!.

KerenAnn · #3 07-04-2005, 12:35 PM

Here is the article
http://www.lexpress.fr/info/monde/do...asp?ida=433857

All French radio stations are talking about it all day long. On Thursday Albert will officially declare that Alexandre is his son.

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semisquare · #5 07-04-2005, 04:41 PM

wow, thats some deep stuff. slap me and call me sally, i'm so shock

Reina · #6 07-04-2005, 04:48 PM

Well if that is the situation then I think she did the right and courageous thing.

The O.C. Fanatic · #7 07-04-2005, 07:56 PM

I remember reading about this in People magazine a while back. I never paid attention to that story I thought it was a rumor or whatever. I guess not.

Idriel · #8 07-04-2005, 08:19 PM

So l'Express said Nicole forgot to use protection? And Albert? Did he never heard about condoms, or something?
I find a bit harsh those accusations about Albert beeing non committal or dishonest with Nicole.
He never quite hide her. She was with him at the royal balcony during an official event in Monaco. The discretion made sense due to his status as a prince. I think he just wanted to protect her. Nicole herself said he introduced her to his dad as his girlfriend. Rainier disliked her and Albert took his distances because of this (through the kid was conceived after the meeting...). Albert also took a paternity test (who was positive according to Nicole Coste) and paid (and still pay even after all she said) everything for Alexandre and Nicole: the apartment in Paris (not cheap), the food, the clothes, the lifestyle... (as far as I know, he does not have to pay for Nicole). In her interview, Nicole also said Albert recognized the kid legally. The reason why she's doing all that is because she wants public recognition. I find quite weird that she wants to throw her kid in public life. Look at how the grimaldis are always suing the press, I hope this poor kid won't have this kind of life...
Anyway, whatever Albert says on Thursday, that won't change anything regarding Monaco's succession since the kid is a love child, not legitimate.

michelleq · #9 07-04-2005, 09:30 PM

No one should blame Albert solely; Nicole is by no means, innocent. Fault for the conception falls on both, but again, moreso Nicole. I don't think Albert ever promised to marry her with her having been married and 2 children already. That was a pipe dream. Did he love her? Only he can answer that; but he did, imho, show how much he cared for her because he never hid her. Just my opinion.

Alexandria · #10 07-04-2005, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by michelleq

No one should blame Albert solely; Nicole is by no means, innocent. Fault for the conception falls on both, but again, moreso Nicole.

I'm not really quite sure I understand the basis for this argument: How is Nicole more responsible for the absence of contraception than Albert is? Two consenting adults who don't want children are both responsible for protecting themselves or ensuring that the other person is properly protected. It is 50/50, not 60/40 or 70/30 or 80/20 or 90/10.

victoria_89 · #11 07-04-2005, 10:08 PM

I think that theres a chance that Nicole's son is Alberts but i also kind of see it being a sceme just because ive never heard it talked about till Rainer died . Why didnt she make a big fuss than ?
I think as long as hes paying the bills and maybe visits the kid sometimes that that should be good enough .... And yes both adults should be protecting themselves but did she honestly think they were going to be married ?
I hope that doesnt come off rude or nasty but thats just what i think

Reina · #12 07-04-2005, 10:10 PM

When a woman is in love, she can believe anything.

delineate · #13 07-04-2005, 10:12 PM

Personally I won't believe anything until it comes from Albert himself. And as of now he hasn't made any claims to the paternity of Alexandre or any other child, so I don't believe anything that's been said.

Alisa · #14 07-04-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMacAlpine

When a woman learns the man she is having a sexual affair with learns he is involved with another woman and being seen with openly on a regular bases, tells that man she is on birth control pills to prevent pregnancy and he believes her but she forgets this one time to take her pill and should have taken it as soon as she realized it and then continued with the pills the fault lays on the woman not the man for failing to keep up her part to prevent a pregnancy. Also to try to trap the man

I certainly agree with Alexandria in this case. As you know, no form of birth control except abstinence is 100% effective, this information is written on just about all contraceptive devices. When Albert and Nicole decided to "do the deed" they should've considered that there was always a possibility that Nicole could get pregnant.

Reina · #15 07-04-2005, 10:23 PM

ALbert has done the deed with dozens of women, most of whom have not gotten pregnant. WHy would he have considered anything?

mw7060a · #16 07-04-2005, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyMacAlpine

I disagree Nicole stated she forgot her pill after learning what she did? Besides Albert hasn't even said Alexandre is his. This could be argued for hours and I don't feel like it. <Removed personal comments>.

Being a female, I have always felt it a woman's responsibility for taking charge when it comes to precautions, since it is her body that runs the risk of becoming pregnant. I think it is plain naive for women to depend on a man for birth control. Just in general (nothing against Prince Albert), women should not depend on men to be responsible for birth control. Maybe in a perfect world, Yes, men should be responsible, but in the end it is us ladies that end up holding the bag...for nine months. This is just my opinion.

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dreed777 · #17 07-05-2005, 08:32 AM

When a man has pretty much terminated a relationship with a woman and knows the woman still wants him, he should know that she could possibly use pregnancy (intentional or unintentional) to maintain contact with him. Sleeping with her while trying to end the relationship is not using good judgement, but sleeping with her while he's trying to end the relationship and HIM not using protection is just plain "not too bright". ESPECIALLY if you are extremely wealthy/famous, etc.

mw7060a · #18 07-05-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dreed777

When a man has pretty much terminated a relationship with a woman and knows the woman still wants him, he should know that she could possibly use pregnancy (intentional or unintentional) to maintain contact with him. Sleeping with her while trying to end the relationship is not using good judgement, but sleeping with her while he's trying to end the relationship and HIM not using protection is just plain "not too bright". ESPECIALLY if you are extremely wealthy/famous, etc.

This is true. I agree with your statement, dreed777.

mw7060a · #19 07-05-2005, 09:19 AM

Here is an article stating that Prince Albert plans to recognize Alexandre after the mourning period is over:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...521232,00.html

Alexandria · #20 07-05-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Reina

ALbert has done the deed with dozens of women, most of whom have not gotten pregnant. WHy would he have considered anything?

If that's how Albert is thinking then he is naive and not too bright as someone else has put it. To think like that is to think of all those naive highschool myths: You can't get pregant the first time or you can't get pregant if you do it during your time of the month.

Just because Albert had intimate with dozens of other women (and this doesn't speak too highly of him either) and didn't use the proper protection and they didn't get pregnant doesn't mean that it could never happen. That it did happen with Nicole does not mean that she set him up necessarily -- it just means that he was lucky all those dozens of other times.