Prince Albert and Princess Charlene's Relationship - Part 2

[amad1108]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreamin

Charlene WIttstock is not my first choice for Princess of Monaco. She is not my 2nd or 3rd choice either. But I've said it before....if the unwed mother girlfriend of a drug dealer can become Queen of Norway, an uneducated has-been Olympic swimmer can certainly be Princess of Monaco with a little dusting off.

Charlene hardly looks like the same person who came to the Principality a couple of years ago. Whether or not Albert intends to marry her she LOOKS like a Princess.

And unfortunately, if she does become Princess all the spotlight will be on her from now on no matter what Stephanie does. Stephanie could find a cure for cancer but the spotlight will be on Charlene no matter if she doesnt deserve it.

Just ask Princess Anne of Great Britain about HER experience during the Diana era!

will that be a bad example for the people i think many years ago in history the idea of a princess is someone that is a rolemodel for the little girls that look up to them hopeing someday to be like them. also someone strong and independent, careing about others and giving princess. but now the idea of a princess is someone that can sell papper with their looks and nobody cares about anything else it is so sad but true.

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by amad1108

will that be a bad example for the people i think many years ago in history the idea of a princess is someone that is a rolemodel for the little girls that look up to them hopeing someday to be like them. also someone strong and independent, careing about others and giving princess. but now the idea of a princess is someone that can sell papper with their looks and nobody cares about anything else it is so sad but true.

Ideally, a Princess is a role model but so is a Prince. And in no one's stretch of the imagination is Prince Albert my idea of a "role model".

This idea of Royalty as role models is becoming antiquated in any case. There are no more Queen Fabiola's or Queen Elizabeth's out there...except maybe Rania of Jordon who could be considered somewhat of a role model.

In general standards for princesses and future queens has been going slowly
downward for YEARS.

[Mandy]

There is no engagement between Albert and Charlene. Now, let's get back on topic.

Thanks,

Mandy

[rosalee]

Obviously they like one another. Is/Are there any foundation(s) they run together or work together on in equal harmony to the fun they seem to have at play? What does CW do for a living in Monaco. In an earlier post someone said she lives in a house near the palace?

Anything?
Thanks!

Does anyone have the link from about 8 years ago where Paris Match ran a subjection based on psychological profiling of what PA's future wife would look and be like? The funny thing is that I recall her being a very tall, lanky, gamine, platinum blonde with blue eyes in the composite picture of the woman they finally came up with! I would love to find this link again if anyone can lead me to it! THANKS!

[AquaMarine]

Originally Posted by rosalee

Does anyone have the link from about 8 years ago where Paris Match ran a subjection based on psychological profiling of what PA's future wife would look and be like? The funny thing is that I recall her being a very tall, lanky, gamine, platinum blonde with blue eyes in the composite picture of the woman they finally came up with! I would love to find this link again if anyone can lead me to it! THANKS!

Wow! Rosalee! Do you also remember that portrait?! I though that I am alone who asked about it some time ago. I remember that the magazine attached the computer version of PA future wife and now I think that she really reminded today's Charlene (though at that time when I saw the portrait I looked absolutely the same ) Unfortunately it was tooooooo standard. Now I prefer to run away of any stereotypes I would like to look at it now and compare my past and present impressions.

[Lakshmi]

What is very strange about Charlene and Albert, that after 2 years of "dating" they have the same fake smiles while together...And he never met her parents...interesting. During last Rose Ball he tried keep distance from her(we can see this in video). I still believe it's fake dating. She might be kind of walker or nice addition at official events.

[lckc571]

Originally Posted by rosalee

Obviously they like one another. Is/Are there any foundation(s) they run together or work together on in equal harmony to the fun they seem to have at play? What does CW do for a living in Monaco. In an earlier post someone said she lives in a house near the palace?

Anything?
Thanks!

Does anyone have the link from about 8 years ago where Paris Match ran a subjection based on psychological profiling of what PA's future wife would look and be like? The funny thing is that I recall her being a very tall, lanky, gamine, platinum blonde with blue eyes in the composite picture of the woman they finally came up with! I would love to find this link again if anyone can lead me to it! THANKS!

Here the picture I found in my very old archive, Ideal Wife of Albert
lckc571

[rosalee]

Originally Posted by lckc571

Here the picture I found in my very old archive, Ideal Wife of Albert
lckc571

OH MY GOSH !!! YES YES YES ! THIS IS IT!!!
I am so glad I asked and glad you saved it. This picture has been haunting my mind and I was wondering why I could not pull it up online anywhere? Especially under Paris Match which is where I found it in the first place!?

I guess when I look at CW in photos, I am reminded of this picture of his "ideal match" and finally started thinking that maybe she is here to stay?

I often thought he would marry someone in-between his two sisters in personality. Someone dignified and yet artistic and spontaneous with darker skin and darker hair. You know? These are the women he has grown up with and work with. They are beautiful and intelligent and also his paternal grandmother looked like this and same with his paternal aunt and most of his Monegasque cousins. There is a certain fascination with the whole PG look-alike thing, but in the end, he might do better finding someone whom he loves and who can really not be compared to PG at all?

I think his sisters will accept whomever he brings home at this time, but in the long run, they have to be able to really get along with her.

R.

[lckc571]

Originally Posted by rosalee

OH MY GOSH !!! YES YES YES ! THIS IS IT!!!
I am so glad I asked and glad you saved it. This picture has been haunting my mind and I was wondering why I could not pull it up online anywhere? Especially under Paris Match which is where I found it in the first place!?

I guess when I look at CW in photos, I am reminded of this picture of his "ideal match" and finally started thinking that maybe she is here to stay?
R.

I remembered they had cut out the body of piece the arms of an actress, the legs of another and the body, I wonder whether they did not take that of Charlene ????? but I am not sûre !!!

[rosalee]

Originally Posted by lckc571

I remembered they had cut out the body of piece the arms of an actress, the legs of another and the body, I wonder whether they did not take that of Charlene ????? but I am not sûre !!!

Princess Grace, Sharon Stone, Claudia Schiffer, Angie Everhart, and one French or German model? They did not mention Charlene at all.

The picture looks a LOT like Charlene, though. And if they really did have psychologists doing this picture, then maybe (God forbid) there is some truth to it?


body He looks genuinely happy with her in this photo. I feel very sorry for him and also for CW if PR just did not "allow" him to date this woman if he really was in love with her 7 yrs ago? I think that would be quite sad. And it is only AFTER this meeting that he took up with Nicole Coste, so that part of his life would never have happened, his father would have been alive for his wedding, he could have had a few years married NOT being reigning monarch and just to be a husband-prince and maybe already have some children with CW growing up. Prince Rainier would have at least met some of PA's children before leaving. This is all too very sad.

R.

[Lozange]

Originally Posted by rosalee

I often thought he would marry someone in-between his two sisters in personality. Someone dignified and yet artistic and spontaneous with darker skin and darker hair.
R.

Rosalee, but I'm right here! Please check my avatar! The colouring, everything! I'm Catholic, speak three languages, deal art... but 40 already - sigh! and dignified ...

A compatibility report actually shows she cares more for him than he does, and that the premise of the relationship is a lot of unfulfilled promises...

[Lozange]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreamin

Ideally, a Princess is a role model but so is a Prince. And in no one's stretch of the imagination is Prince Albert my idea of a "role model".

This idea of Royalty as role models is becoming antiquated in any case. There are no more Queen Fabiola's or Queen Elizabeth's out there...except maybe Rania of Jordon who could be considered somewhat of a role model.

In general standards for princesses and future queens has been going slowly
downward for YEARS.

I think we may be overlooking Queen Noor here. She is a fine example, not unlike PG, of an American who has adapted amazingly well to circumstances and has left an indelible mark. If PA didn't have succession (or religious) issues, she certainly would be a model of dignity in a wife.

[amad1108]

Originally Posted by rosalee

Princess Grace, Sharon Stone, Claudia Schiffer, Angie Everhart, and one French or German model? They did not mention Charlene at all.

The picture looks a LOT like Charlene, though. And if they really did have psychologists doing this picture, then maybe (God forbid) there is some truth to it?


body He looks genuinely happy with her in this photo. I feel very sorry for him and also for CW if PR just did not "allow" him to date this woman if he really was in love with her 7 yrs ago? I think that would be quite sad. And it is only AFTER this meeting that he took up with Nicole Coste, so that part of his life would never have happened, his father would have been alive for his wedding, he could have had a few years married NOT being reigning monarch and just to be a husband-prince and maybe already have some children with CW growing up. Prince Rainier would have at least met some of PA's children before leaving. This is all too very sad.

R.

if he have know her for 7years why does he act diffently with her,if he has been madly inlove for 7years why let her walk behind him instead of holding hand, it seems to me cw is the one inlove not him,she have move to monaco and give up her job hopeing for something to happen and yet nothing have,i think there is a lot more happening then they are showing the people,because was the press are giving the people dont just add up.

[rosalee]

Originally Posted by amad1108

if he have know her for 7years why does he act diffently with her,if he has been madly inlove for 7years why let her walk behind him instead of holding hand, it seems to me cw is the one inlove not him,she have move to monaco and give up her job hopeing for something to happen and yet nothing have,i think there is a lot more happening then they are showing the people,because was the press are giving the people dont just add up.

Lot more happening meaning there WILL be a marriage or that they are playing parts?

Did PG not say that this would be the greatest part she would ever have to play?

If we look at the Princely marriages of other countries, they seem to readily show affection in front of "outsiders". What's up with these two? Is it just to keep everyone guessing? If they're getting married, it's 2008. Holding hands won't knock anyone out. And we all know they must be doing something together, so what are they hiding after two years?

Maybe he is just happy having her around for now and taking care of her. How many of us know people who "dated" for 5 yrs and then split up ending up marrying other people?

[Elspeth]

I've just removed some irrelevant and unnecessary religious posts and responses from this thread; previous posts along the same lines have been removed from other threads. Please keep religious comments and exhortations out of these discussions. Posters' opinions about what one or another deity may or may not have in mind for Prince Albert or any other royal are not relevant to the discussion.

Elspeth

Royal Forums administrator

[Ghislaine]

Originally Posted by rosalee

body He looks genuinely happy with her in this photo. I feel very sorry for him and also for CW if PR just did not "allow" him to date this woman if he really was in love with her 7 yrs ago? I think that would be quite sad. And it is only AFTER this meeting that he took up with Nicole Coste, so that part of his life would never have happened, his father would have been alive for his wedding, he could have had a few years married NOT being reigning monarch and just to be a husband-prince and maybe already have some children with CW growing up. Prince Rainier would have at least met some of PA's children before leaving. This is all too very sad.

R.

I don't think so, thanks to Nicole's detailed reports we know that Alex was conceived in early Dec. 2002. She also claims she had a 5 year relationship with Albert which would put the start of that relationship in 1997. So when he met and dated Charlene, he was also dating and sleeping with Nicole. So if anything he was cheating on Nicole with Charlene. And Alycia and all the others. It is not that he was heartbroken from not being able to marry Charlene and turned to Nicole for comfort. Don't turn this into a soap series and overdramatise it. Reality is bad enough as it is.

[LadyMacAlpine]

Originally Posted by rosalee

body He looks genuinely happy with her in this photo.

That photo was taken when they meet.

[cdm]

An article about Charlene on the Hola website: CHARLENE WITTSTOCK SE MUDA DE LA CASA DE LA PRINCESA CAROLINA A UNA VILLA MÁS CERCANA A PALACIO
Apparently she lived in Villa La Vigie in Monte-Carlo (owned by Caroline) the last few months and she moved to a villa closer to the Palace now.
Would this mean the marriage is finally coming closer too???

[LadyMacAlpine]

Originally Posted by cdm

An article about Charlene on the Hola website: CHARLENE WITTSTOCK SE MUDA DE LA CASA DE LA PRINCESA CAROLINA A UNA VILLA MÁS CERCANA A PALACIO
Apparently she lived in Villa La Vigie in Monte-Carlo (owned by Caroline) the last few months and she moved to a villa closer to the Palace now.
Would this mean the marriage is finally coming closer too???

La vigie is a very expensive Hotel owned by SBM. Also the photos that were shown as her new residence on another site is Caroline's and Stephanie's homes. Translation. I recall them saying she was living at Stephanie's last year. Unless you have inside information I wouldn't believe most of what the press is throwing out there to sell papers. Just consider it a Soap Opera story at this point the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing.

[rosalee]

Originally Posted by Ghislaine

Don't turn this into a soap series and overdramatise it. Reality is bad enough as it is.

There is no need to be unnecessarily mean here. I am sure you are artful enough to state your opinion or facts without throwing barbs at and characterizing the other bloggers here? So he cheats on women. I think we all get it. Thank you.