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05-04-2011, 11:54 AM
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Have the pre-wedding events been announced already or is there a traditional pattern how these things go in Monaco? I sincerely hope we will see Charlene in something else than nude, white or grey if there is a pre-wedding dinner, ball or other. She seems to choose a bit boring colours and I hope she would choose something more extravagant. I mean, she used to be a swimmer, I bet even her choice of swimwear colours was more interesting than the dresses we have seen her in (and don't tell me her favourite colour for swimwear was nude..  ).
I would not be surprised if the bride wore something similar to what Princess Grace did: The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Top 10 Best Royal Wedding Dresses: #2. HSH Princess Grace
Do you think Charlene will be wearing a tiara? I cannot wait seeing her wearing Princess Grace's tiaras and other jewellery in the coming years. It will be interesting, I hope.
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05-04-2011, 12:00 PM
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According to other websites and the French newspaper, Nice-Matin, (sorry no link yet) Charlene Wittstock, will soon have her own anthem.  The musical piece is said to have been composed by Jean-Christophe Aurnague the, “…organist of the Church of the Sacred Heart.”
I have never heard of a Consort getting their own musical theme. Not even HSH Albert has HIS own anthem, but he does reprensent himself with the anthem of the "principauté" . Why would she have her own when other members of the family have don't? Not even Grace of Monaco - Is this normal?
Can someone elude me to why? And please don't give me "why not"
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It is a gift from Albert (or possibly even subjects of the principality) to Charlene. It has been a very long time since there was a Prince & Princess of Monaco (don't mention Caroline as I am not speaking of her). I think it is a lovely gesture.
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I have no idea why any woman wears those things..I have never seen one that I found stylish or pretty.
The only thing "fascinating" about them is why anyone would put such an ugly thing on their heads outside of a costume party imo.
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These decorative pieces have been around since the 17th century. Unfortunately, they have evolved into "art." The early ones are very reminiscent of what my mother wore back in the 50s. They were worn a bit differently (on the side or across the crown, not perched as worn today). I still have a couple of them (one with turq and bronze feathers, and a white bandeau with black netting), wear them occasionally to church on high Holy days and enjoy them.
History of Fascinators
http://www.oohlalaplume.com/history-of-fascinators.html
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05-04-2011, 12:36 PM
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Yes they have turned into art. I remember my mother and grandmother wearing hats when they were going to church. I think in a way it was always about fashion but it was about respect too. Back then as a woman you're suppose to come into the the house of God looking a certain way and one of those ways was having your head covered. Times have changed now and I still wear fascinators every now and then. It's always a funny thing cause people tend to assume I'm from another country when I do wear one:)
Getting back on topic, I really hope Charlene wears a tiara. It won't be a royal wedding without one.
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05-04-2011, 01:48 PM
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im sure she will wear a tiara!!! Even if Grace or Caroline didnt on their weddings doesnt mean she will not wear one, and considering the current times we live in, i bet she (and she will marry a sovergein prince) will wear a tiara!
if she will wear Grace's or Charlotte's (or josephine i dont know which is called) i dont want, but i personally want for it to be a NEW tiara, a gift from Albert
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05-04-2011, 02:16 PM
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Maybe she will have a tiara, but i doubt Caroline will give her tiaras. They are hers, her grandmother gave them to her, why would she give them to Charlene? just because she is marrying her brother?
Maybe Albert will buy her (Charlene) a new one.
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05-04-2011, 06:31 PM
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Melina premiere, thanks once again for more info. on the wedding, especially in regards to the Kelly relatives coming. YES!  This looks to be a blow out huge family affair on all sides, which I love, the more the merrier.  Kathia sophia, the famous Empress Josephine of France Tiara (aka Brunswik Tiara) is definitely out, as it does not even belong to the House of Grimaldi, rather the House of Hanover. You know in retrospect I really feel this tiara was meant for Caroline in every way, shape, form possible. Her life was very similar to Caroline's, as well as her genetic makeup, both were/are French with a touch of Irish on their mother's side. :)Nathalie Cox, I just feel Caroline will either loan or gift Charlene a tiara, so that at least one tiara will continue to stay in the family of the House of Grimaldi, especially the Fringe Tiara, which originated with Lady Mary Victoria-Douglas Hamilton, whom married Prince Albert I on September 21, 1869, and bore him one son, Prince Louis II (btw to me he looks the most like Prince Rainier). :) Anyhow, that's just my opinion. Of course a brand new one would always be welcomed as well.  I'm just wondering how Charlene will be outfitted. My hope is that she is "The Swan" for the wedding, and then changes into "The Mermaid" for the Ball afterwards.  Lol, yes, I am a fan of both, and even have statuary of such outside in my garden. :)
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05-04-2011, 10:37 PM
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I still would like to know what "wedding favors" everybody thinks will be given out at A&C's wedding? As well, I would love to know what kind were given out for W&K's.
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Back on topic, Prince Albert & Charlene Wittstock wedding suggestions and musings, I for one am interested to see what "wedding favors" will be given to the guests!  Being this is such a grand wedding, I'm hoping they do what used to be popular in the Victorian Days ~ give the best possible wedding favors ever ~ and that includes half dolls in the design & shape of the bride and bridesmaids. These are super super rare, especially the antique ones from Victorian Times, and most rare are the ones from the aristocracy and royalty. I should know, I collect them. :)
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To further expound on my aforementioned post, I searched the 'net to try to show examples of what I was talking about up above, that is "Victorian Wedding Favors of the Aristocracy/Nobility/Royalty". Unfortunately, I only found a very cheap one of Princess Diana, shown here: Amazon.com: Princess Diana of Wales Porcelain Half Doll Official Numbered Limited Edition From the United States Historical Society Remember the Ladies Collection: Home & Garden
The ones I'm talking about are the complete opposite, found in museums or high-end collectors' collections, particularly the ones from the 1900's. In fact, the Queen Mum herself was a collector at one time.
Thus, I scanned two pages of several books I own on half-dolls, to give everybody a better idea of the type I'm talking about, shown here:
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...dingfavors.jpg
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/x...dingfavors.jpg
Anyhow, I would love it if this fad made a comeback! Can you imagine being gifted a small identical half-doll replica of the bride, bridesmaids, and maid of honor, including the exact fabric worn by them.  The most expensive ones, as shown in my private link up above, do just this, a miniature of say the bride as she was on her wedding day, ahhh.  And as money isn't an option, I would think the royalty could afford to pay for these type of wedding favors mounted atop a box containing a piece of the wedding cake inside, like they did in Queen Victoria's Time.
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05-05-2011, 04:08 AM
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This has prob been answered but I don't want to go through 71 pages so I'll ask are we going to be able to watch it live online like the previous 2 big royal weddings?
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05-05-2011, 05:33 AM
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05-05-2011, 05:34 AM
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the press of monegash government said that there are many asks of foreighn television for accreditation for the wedding, it is sait that chinese, japonese and tv of europa, cnn and so are asking for acceditations but for the tv of USa there is an article on a blog I do not remember his name which says that it will be know only mid june if there were tv of america, but I think you will be abble to see the wedding on internet. There is already on the monaco info, you will be abble to watch,
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05-05-2011, 12:15 PM
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I am hoping that the Casiraghis and maybe some Ducruets will be grooms and bridesmaids. That should help attract the American press.
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05-05-2011, 08:08 PM
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I wonder if they will reveal the bridal party any time soon? I'm still hoping for a white-tie wedding so we can see the Swedish royal family all glittered out, the Monegasque princely family in tiaras and Camilla of bourbon 2 Sicilies with her beautiful Ancona Tiara.
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05-05-2011, 11:23 PM
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the press of monegash government said that there are many asks of foreighn television for accreditation for the wedding, it is sait that chinese, japonese and tv of europa, cnn and so are asking for acceditations but for the tv of USa there is an article on a blog I do not remember his name which says that it will be know only mid june if there were tv of america, but I think you will be abble to see the wedding on internet. There is already on the monaco info, you will be abble to watch,
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Ooh CNN! I like the sound of that! Did you say there's info on the website? I've seen info on the official website about people who will be in Monaco on that day but not for those who won't be but I'm hoping a few networks here pick up the wedding. Thanks Melina Premiere for the reply
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05-06-2011, 05:41 AM
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It is only on a blog, but do you receive tvmonde? antenne 2 will boardcast the wedding and tvmonde boardcards many french programs on his channel and specialy those of Antenne 2 and the wedding of W and C was on tvmonde it was the same I saw on antenne 2 with Stephane Bern as report. For CNN, it was only on a blog not an officially web site, but Christiane Stalh Who is the chief of the team of the publicity of the wedding team said that they hoped that a channel of USA will boardcast this wedding. Many french blogs speak about cnn but I am not sure .
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05-06-2011, 03:59 PM
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Ooh CNN! I like the sound of that! Did you say there's info on the website? I've seen info on the official website about people who will be in Monaco on that day but not for those who won't be but I'm hoping a few networks here pick up the wedding. Thanks Melina Premiere for the reply 
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Oh PLEASE let CNN carry this wedding! I want to see it so badly and I don't want to watch on the Internet, either!
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05-06-2011, 05:07 PM
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I want the 4 main US channels to carry it. The timing of the wedding is set up for easy viewing in the Americas; Saturday at 11:00 am NY time.
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05-06-2011, 05:48 PM
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It is only on a blog, but do you receive tvmonde? antenne 2 will boardcast the wedding and tvmonde boardcards many french programs on his channel and specialy those of Antenne 2 and the wedding of W and C was on tvmonde it was the same I saw on antenne 2 with Stephane Bern as report. For CNN, it was only on a blog not an officially web site, but Christiane Stalh Who is the chief of the team of the publicity of the wedding team said that they hoped that a channel of USA will boardcast this wedding. Many french blogs speak about cnn but I am not sure .
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Sadly I don't think I catch any of those channels I do have a couple of french channels such as TVA would that air it? I'm praying atleast one American or perhaps Canadian channel picks it up.
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05-06-2011, 06:03 PM
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I want the 4 main US channels to carry it. The timing of the wedding is set up for easy viewing in the Americas; Saturday at 11:00 am NY time.
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There is no way the four MAIN channels would cover it...they only do that for Brit royals.
All I ask is that at least one of the cable stations will carry it LIVE.
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05-06-2011, 06:57 PM
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Suggestion -- is it possible for our European Forum members to tape the televised festivities and have them available for purchase in dvd? I hope that is not a violation of any copyright laws since most of us just want a copy and have no intention of broadcasting it anyway.
Thanks guys.
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