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02-28-2011, 09:54 AM
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Prince Albert is Catholic and in order for a Catholic to marry I believe the children from the union must be raised Catholic. So the heir will be Catholic.
The only thing that I can see from a mixed religion marriage is the children sometimes get mixed religion views and then change religion.
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02-28-2011, 10:06 AM
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Thanks!  So in other words it would be okay if CW is not Catholic, as long as any heir would be raised Catholic, baptized, etc. ?
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02-28-2011, 10:33 AM
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...Charlene, who is protestant, makes the sign cross...she shouldn't make it because she doesn't believe in catholic faith. It's like disrepect more like respect what she does...
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Nathalie, I am a member of a Protestant denomination and it is part of our Order of Service to reverance the Cross in this manner. We also genuflect. I don't believe she is disrespecting anything.
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02-28-2011, 10:41 AM
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The ceremony must be celebrated in catholic ryte and the children would be raised in the catholic religious. Pince albert said that Charlene is already chretien is a good thing. THe gests that Charlene made during all the mass of the principauty(national fest and the two mass of Sainte Devotethe 26 and 27 january are very important for the catholic people. I think that she will be catholic after the wedding perhaps before the birthday of the first child.It takes time to be converted, there are lessons to learn, the priests to learn and so
Queen Astrid of Belgium was protestant at the time of her wedding with prince Leopold and she converted just before the birth of king Baudoin. Queen Sofia of Spain was orthodox at the time of her wedding with Juan Carlos and I remembered there were 2 weddings in Athene one orthodox and one in catholic rite, I do not remember when she converted , there are many exemples of royal weddings between prince and princesse who had not the same religion, there was convertion before or after the wedding but we do not know if the persons kept there themselves believes
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02-28-2011, 10:45 AM
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Hi Lady MacAlpine, good post!
I agree that things stated officially about Charlene, if later proven wrong, will reflect badly on her. Everyone else involved will not be in the public eye. It has obviously happened on the Palace website where they said she was a school teacher, etc. They are doing her no favors for sure.
Also I was under the impression, as some others here, that CW would have to become catholic. Yet if this is not the case, and it will not ruin things for any
children they may have, I think it is fine. I respect varying religions. It seems to me she is not intensely devoted religious, but more casual about it so it may just not be important to her?
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Thanks. Actually the school teacher thing wasn't on the Palace site it was the press who created that from translation taking youth worker and turning it into school teacher.
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Thanks!  So in other words it would be okay if CW is not Catholic, as long as any heir would be raised Catholic, baptized, etc. ?
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Yes, it is okay for Charlene to stay a Protestant if she wants and she will need to sign a paper saying the children will be raised Catholic. Like Princess Alexandra being raised Protestant due to the Hanover's being under the British crown.
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02-28-2011, 11:03 AM
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The ceremony must be celebrated in catholic ryte and the children would be raised in the catholic religious. Pince albert said that Charlene is already chretien is a good thing. THe gests that Charlene made during all the mass of the principauty(national fest and the two mass of Sainte Devotethe 26 and 27 january are very important for the catholic people. I think that she will be catholic after the wedding perhaps before the birthday of the first child.It takes time to be converted, there are lessons to learn, the priests to learn and so
Queen Astrid of Belgium was protestant at the time of her wedding with prince Leopold and she converted just before the birth of king Baudoin. Queen Sofia of Spain was orthodox at the time of her wedding with Juan Carlos and I remembered there were 2 weddings in Athene one orthodox and one in catholic rite, I do not remember when she converted , there are many exemples of royal weddings between prince and princesse who had not the same religion, there was convertion before or after the wedding but we do not know if the persons kept there themselves believes
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If Charlene began taking lessons when she became engaged she will be converted at Easter just like everyone else. Also I think Monsignor Bernard Barsi would have mentioned it if she was. It isn't like she will fail or anything you aren't tested. All you need to do is listen and any good Christian will already know the things they talk about.
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02-28-2011, 01:11 PM
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How do we know Princess Alexandria is being raised protestant? It makes no sense. She is 5th in line to Monaco and would have to be Catholic. She isn't in line for anything as a protestant. Even Ernst before his marriage to PC wasn't in line for the throne. He isn't a British citizen.
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02-28-2011, 01:34 PM
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Thanks!  So in other words it would be okay if CW is not Catholic, as long as any heir would be raised Catholic, baptized, etc. ?
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Yes. The couple can not get married in the Catholic religion if they don't agree with raising all their children Catholic.
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02-28-2011, 01:58 PM
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How do we know Princess Alexandria is being raised protestant? It makes no sense. She is 5th in line to Monaco and would have to be Catholic. She isn't in line for anything as a protestant. Even Ernst before his marriage to PC wasn't in line for the throne. He isn't a British citizen.
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Are you sure he not on that list? I have read he is but waaaaay far from actual throne? Isn't that why he and Caroline are HRH's? Also not sure you have to be British citizen to be king- james I wasn't or George I - think you just have to be Blood related to Sophia the Electress of such.... But maybe my history is wrong!
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02-28-2011, 02:18 PM
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This is off-topic, but Ernst is no longer an heir to the British throne. Per Ken Cuthbertson (on the unofficialroyalty.com website):
"Though now barred from the British succession by his marriage to Princess Caroline of Monaco, Ernst’s sons from his first marriage and his daughter with Princess Caroline remain in the line of succession."
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02-28-2011, 03:52 PM
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Ooooooh, does that mean William could become the Duke of Albany?
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Off topic - but the current heir to that title is Hubertus Prinz von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha.
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The subject for THIS thread are Wedding Suggestions and Musings for Albert and Charlene.
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02-28-2011, 09:10 PM
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02-28-2011, 10:17 PM
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The truth is no one here knows if she is converting or not. Also some protestant religions are very close to catholicism and have similar traditions such as crossing themselves.
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03-01-2011, 03:37 PM
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As if this family is so devote to their faith. Hello? 
If they were really serious catholics, it would be an other story.
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03-02-2011, 02:43 AM
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As if this family is so devote to their faith. Hello? 
If they were really serious catholics, it would be an other story.
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Well, that's part of my point. I don't want to 'open windows' into their souls, and I do think that they take their religion seriously, I just think it is safe to say they are not exactly devoutly religious people. Were that the case Albert probably wouldn't be marrying a Protestant in the first place. Likewise, I have never seen or heard anything about Charlene going to Protestant services in all these many years. So, if the exact church you belong to is not that important to you it looks all the worse not to convert when that is important to a great many or most of the people and a central part of the history of the country and the Princely Family. I would be very surprised if she does not convert and if she doesn't I don't think it will reflect well on her at all. And, in any event, the current Prince and Princesses of Monaco should serve as a comforting reminder that, well ... let's just say that the "fires of the inquisition"  have long been extinguished.
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03-02-2011, 03:16 AM
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I'm hearing that Albert and Charlene do not have the same religion? Well good luck on their marriage cause it's hard to have a successful marriage when husband and wife do not agree and follow the same religion. If Albert is catholic then Charlene should be catholic too.
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03-02-2011, 04:00 AM
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As far as I'm aware Charlene is said to have been Protestant (?), and has since recieved Catechism of the Catholic Church.
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03-02-2011, 10:45 AM
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Charlene was and is protestant and hasn't converted to catholicism, Barsi has said it!
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