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08-04-2010, 07:00 PM
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I can't help but think that with Charlene's marraige to PA the Monaco RF will go through a resurgence of respectability that has been sadly lacking for such a long time. Against all odds ( not to decry her but in terms of the world we live in) PA has found a wife who has, apparently, no scandal attached to her. Thus I wish them as a couple all the luck in the world and I hope she turns out to be a very classy and successful POM and the mother of a new generation of Princes/Princesses.
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08-04-2010, 07:01 PM
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Lets cool the the discussion about a Charlene pregnancy pre wedding.
If she turns up pregnant before the wedding, most likely we will notice any bump and we can certainly discuss how it will affect the wedding.
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08-08-2010, 10:56 AM
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I know that the next question is a bit silly. but I wonder whether future princess to keep her original name Charlene or will take "french" form of the name-Caroline! "Charlene" is (as far as I know) americanized variant of Caroline. As far as I remember princess Grace was also formally called Gracia Patricia.
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08-08-2010, 11:06 AM
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I doubt she will change her name, I don't think it's needed.
And if they did she isn't going to change it to Princess Caroline seeing as there is one already.
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08-08-2010, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jadwiga
I know that the next question is a bit silly. but I wonder whether future princess to keep her original name Charlene or will take "french" form of the name-Caroline! "Charlene" is (as far as I know) americanized variant of Caroline. As far as I remember princess Grace was also formally called Gracia Patricia.
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Charlene sounds fairly French. I don't think she'll change it. Gra tia Patricia was Grace Patricia's name in Latin but I am sure she was known as Grace in French. At least she signed herself Grace de Monaco.
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08-08-2010, 03:51 PM
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French-speakers are already referring her as "Charlène", or Mademoiselle C. W.
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09-15-2010, 05:18 PM
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I don't find where to writte this news. Nice Matin said that Prince Albert annonced to day to the media that his weedding will take place on the place of the Palace, there will be many persons and he wants also the presence of the monegasque natives, the civil weedding will take place in the palace on july the first. excuse my bad english
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09-15-2010, 05:32 PM
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Here's the Nice Matin article you are referring to, melina premiere.
** Prince Albert II: le mariage religieux sur la place du palais **
I think your translation was quite good  , so the wedding ceremony will
be an open air event, according to the article as a symbolic gesture to share
the celebration with the people of Monaco.
Princess Caroline's wedding with Philippe Junot (besides the civil ceremony inside
the Princely Palace) has also been celebrated outside and not inside a church,
surely a great setting for Albert and Charlene as well.
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09-15-2010, 07:10 PM
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Do you take that to mean that none of the ceremony will take place in the Cathedral ? I am a little sad if this is the case. ( It may also be very hot for the guests to sit through!!)
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09-15-2010, 07:51 PM
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Well the Cathedral of St Nicholas really isn't that big as cathedrals go, really just a large church. If they plan on inviting a large number of guests this might be the best option. Pray for good weather.
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09-15-2010, 08:57 PM
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I read that the civil weedding will be friday 1 july and religious weedding the to morrow saturday 2 july.Last time , it was for the 2july and 3 july, the date has changed? for the weedding of Princesse Caroline and Philippe Junot, it was privat and there was no tv.
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09-15-2010, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by melina premiere
I read that the civil weedding will be friday 1 july and religious weedding the to morrow saturday 2 july.Last time , it was for the 2july and 3 july, the date has changed? for the weedding of Princesse Caroline and Philippe Junot, it was privat and there was no tv.
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Yeah...I read that too. I thought the wedding was:
Civil: July 2,
Religous: July 3
Are they planning on having 3 ceremonies? One civil, one religious, and one for the people of Monaco????
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09-15-2010, 09:30 PM
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Ln France and in Monaco there is only 2 weeddings, the civil weedding and the religious weedding,
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09-15-2010, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by melina premiere
I read that the civil weedding will be friday 1 july and religious weedding the to morrow saturday 2 july.Last time , it was for the 2july and 3 july, the date has changed? for the weedding of Princesse Caroline and Philippe Junot, it was privat and there was no tv.
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The Nice Matin article doesn't mention the wedding dates at all that I could see. Where did the idea that the date has changed again come from? Isn't the civil ceremony still on Saturday with the religious service on Sunday, although I do think Friday & Saturday dates would be better.
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NGalitzine, it had changed to Saturday, July 2nd (civil) and Sunday, July 3rd (church/now
open air wedding) instead of Friday and Saturday, check out this thread for the whole
explanation!
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I read that the civil weedding will be friday 1 july and religious weedding the to morrow saturday 2 july.Last time , it was for the 2july and 3 july, the date has changed? for the weedding of Princesse Caroline and Philippe Junot, it was privat and there was no tv.
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Melina premiere, I don't think it's been a privat wedding without TV as I've
talked to people who saw it on TV that same day the wedding has taken
place and as I've seen large parts of it some years later.
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09-16-2010, 06:52 AM
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I remembered that we were very desappointed because we could not see the weedding of Caroline at the TV, We only saw some photos of the Family. There is some short videos, but not the whole ceremony, it was said that Princess Grace wanted a privat ceremony. But to day, it is not the subject on this board
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09-16-2010, 11:12 AM
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NGalitzine, it had changed to Saturday, July 2nd (civil) and Sunday, July 3rd (church/now
open air wedding) instead of Friday and Saturday, check out this thread for the whole
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No, I knew that the date had been moved up a week and was going to be on the Saturday and Sunday. I thought the previous poster was suggesting the date had been changed again which I could not find in the Nice Matin article.
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09-16-2010, 12:41 PM
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You go on the site of Nice Matin, you click on the photo of the prince albert and charlene who is down on the left side and you find the article where, it is said that the religious ceremony will take place the 2 july on the place of the palace and the civil weedding would take place friday 1 july. In france and also in monaco, the civil weedding must take place always before the religious ceremony.
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09-16-2010, 03:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iceflower
Here's the Nice Matin article you are referring to, melina premiere.
** Prince Albert II: le mariage religieux sur la place du palais **
I think your translation was quite good  , so the wedding ceremony will
be an open air event, according to the article as a symbolic gesture to share
the celebration with the people of Monaco.
Princess Caroline's wedding with Philippe Junot (besides the civil ceremony inside
the Princely Palace) has also been celebrated outside and not inside a church,
surely a great setting for Albert and Charlene as well.
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Grace and Rainier celebrated their civil ceremony and had all the Monegasques invited as guests and asked they used their discretion in coming as they would after saying their vows go outside to toast with champagne and cake etc. SO that is where this is from and taken .
But as far as the religious ceremony I think they should have inside ST. Nicholas.When you leave the altar you leave behind the guardian angels according to some theology. People marry inside a church- not in open air.Unless they want to parachute the nuptials.What if it rains? Might have a helicopter on hand for a quick getaway.Cannot wait to hear the flavours of the wedding cake.[wink] JMO
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09-16-2010, 05:04 PM
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I hope they have a backup plan for rain Maybe a tent? or maybe move the whole thing to the church, I'm so upset it's not in the church no great organ music or pictures of them walking down the stairs, no car ride to the palace. oh well it's really their choice, seems they want something low-key in comparison to Ranier and Grace's., who can blame them?
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