Albert and Charlene's Relationship

[goody7058]

You guy don't think Charlene going home to train. For the Olympic.

[lilae]

Originally Posted by Grace

Albert and Charlene are togetehr at the official opening of the rugby world cup among Heads of State and other personalities...at this point I really believed he has crossed the line, bringing a person with no official role whatsoever to represent his Country with him. I don't care what he does in his house or his bedroom, but couldn't he be a little more respectful of protocol in public?

Yes, i agree with you Grace, and she's Ok with this...

Originally Posted by sandsla

But Albert has Charlene at his side at public events walking in him and his family, when she is not yet in that postion. This is where all the criticism comes from, since they are not engaged, it really shows bad form. This is very immature on both of there parts, especially Albert who seems to want to mingle with the big boys, who I can't imagine take Albert very serious. The way they have handled the relationship shows little class, the fact that she is not mature or smart enough to not want to keep the relationship private is very revealing as to her lack of maturity & development as a person, and Albert's.
She does not seem to have a problem with the limelight, one might think it was her only ambition, which is the other problem people have with her and Albert for once again dating a woman who is only interested in being famous & rich as you mention in your other post.

I second you, i want to add Charlene's actions are a slap in feminism and Albert's actions now with this "girl" are foolish. Monagasque can't say anything, but there are more and more whispers.

[Ghislaine]

Grace and Lilae, you're both right of course. But that has been the odd thing from day one. Many comments have been made, nothing has changed, I must have said this same thing several times by now and feel like a broken record playing the same groove over and over again. Perpetual repetition.

[goody7058]

What is Albert doing wrong? he taking his friend out to event he never say Charlene was his girlfriend, finacee, or his offical companion...Can he have woman that enjoy his company without the M word coming up.

[miraglia1983]

I agree. Charlene is his girlfriend and he is entitled to bring her anywhere he wants. They seem happy together and even more when they are in a more relaxed environment. He looks happy to have her by his side and as long as he is happy, that's what counts.

[Jaya]

Originally Posted by miraglia1983

I agree. Charlene is his girlfriend and he is entitled to bring her anywhere he wants. They seem happy together and even more when they are in a more relaxed environment. He looks happy to have her by his side and as long as he is happy, that's what counts.

I think Albert and Charlene's relationship is headed for marriage and nothing can stop it.I think they have both decided and will go ahead at some point in the future. Dust off your best your seats in front of the televison unless you are invited to the actual wedding itself.The sooner the better. Hurry up will ya?

[goody7058]

They would be alot of people shock & angry.

[Ghislaine]

Originally Posted by goody7058

What is Albert doing wrong? he taking his friend out to event he never say Charlene was his girlfriend, finacee, or his offical companion...Can he have woman that enjoy his company without the M word coming up.

Like you stated yourself, Charlene has no status at all, not even of girlfriend, but Albert treats her like she is his wife. That is what he is doing wrong.

[Grace]

Originally Posted by miraglia1983
I think Charlene looks beautiful in all the pictures and as his girlfriend, Prince Albert is entitled to bring her anywhere he wants.

But that's exactly the issue: she isn't officially his girlfriend, she isn't officially anything. At this point I'd rather Albert announced he doesn't believe in marriage, or doesn't want to get married ever and that Charlene is his companion; much more respectable than bringing a "friend" to official functions! Cause as a private person Albert is entitled to act as he wishes but as a public figure he has obligations to his subjects and to other public figures to respect rules, forms, protocol. And no, him being happy is not all that counts because Albert has a job, a public one, and in doing his duty his happiness is not the most important thing (I wouldn't ask myself if my doctor or my architect is happy before hiring him, nor would I condone if they made mistakes due to lack of happiness). JMO of course.

[lilae]

Originally Posted by Grace

But that's exactly the issue: she isn't officially his girlfriend, she isn't officially anything. At this point I'd rather Albert announced he doesn't believe in marriage, or doesn't want to get married ever and that Charlene is his companion; much more respectable than bringing a "friend" to official functions! Cause as a private person Albert is entitled to act as he wishes but as a public figure he has obligations to his subjects and to other public figures to respect rules, forms, protocol. And no, him being happy is not all that counts because Albert has a job, a public one, and in doing his duty his happiness is not the most important thing (I wouldn't ask myself if my doctor or my architect is happy before hiring him, nor would I condone if they made mistakes due to lack of happiness). JMO of course.

Oh, YES,YES, YES I second you, Albert has obligations to his subjets...and he has not to let them think he doesn't care of them and women image.

[miraglia1983]

How do we know that Charlene is not his girlfriend? Maybe Prince Albert has not said anything on the issue because of how the media blows everything out of proportion. Who knows if behind closed doors they have made a commitment to each other and don't want the media to go crazy over it. I don't see anything wrong in her being his girlfriend and an engagement will come when he is ready. Look at how Prince Charles ruined Princess Diana's life and their engagement happened quickly. Let Prince Albert and Charlene take their time to be sure they are making the right decision. I would like to see him settling down and having a family asap, but it's all up to them and for now having Charlene as his girlfriend, when he seems so happy with her, is fine with me. What I think about the most in this situation is the age gap. It does concern me, but he has delayed finding a suitable wife for too long. Charlene must have some good qualities that make him want to be sharing his life with her. She's an accomplished athlete and they seem to share sports as a common thing they enjoy together. Prince Charles and Princess Diana had nothing in common and she was miserable with him. Charlene deserves a chance and if Prince Albert feels she is the right woman to spend the rest of his life with, he will commit. Let's hope he remains faithful to her and she doesn't get tired of waiting for his commitment.

[Grace]

Originally Posted by miraglia1983

How do we know that Charlene is not his girlfriend? Maybe Prince Albert has not said anything on the issue because of how the media blows everything out of proportion. Who knows if behind closed doors they have made a commitment to each other and don't want the media to go crazy over it.

Well it is obvious to us she is his girlfriend because we read gossip mags/sites, but what about the Ambassadors, Heads of State, finance professionists Albert meets due to his position? What do or should they care whether he is happy, makes a mistake, marries too early/too late or has to ease things with his "significant other"?
What if Sarkozy or Bush acted like this? Imagine the French President bringing a date to all his official functions, without ever bothering to tell anyone in which capacity he is bringing her. Not only would he cause great trouble to all protocol experts and those organizing events, but he would damage his personal credibility and his role (and I'm not talking about private lives; there they should be free!).
I apply the same standards to Albert. I think the fact that we literally watch young royals from their birth makes us at the same time too demanding and too soft towards them: we sometimes demand perfection, but we are also ready to condone any behaviour, because we want them happy, well settled, with kids, a beautiful bride, maybe we know thay lost their mother, or father, or a true love, all things we would never consider when judging an elected politician!
Albert should, in my opinion, do one of two things: he fears the press, the pressure, he wants to take time? Then he has to stop bringing Charlene at public fonctions and just bring her to the cinema or to private trips. Otherwise, he has to make a public statement clearing the air about Charlene status; after he tells everyone if she is his girlfriend, or companion, or bride to be (all would be fine with me) he can have her by his side in his official capacity.
The ambiguity greatly damages his scarce credibility in the national and international political arena, and whether we remember it or not, Albert is not a starlet, a rock star or a football player, but a Head of State of a nation in need of credibility.

ETA: sorry for the OT but I don't agree about Charles ruining Diana's life...they both contributed there.

[sandsla]

Originally Posted by Grace

Well it is obvious to us she is his girlfriend because we read gossip mags/sites, but what about the Ambassadors, Heads of State, finance professionists Albert meets due to his position? What do or should they care whether he is happy, makes a mistake, marries too early/too late or has to ease things with his "significant other"?
What if Sarkozy or Bush acted like this? Imagine the French President bringing a date to all his official functions, without ever bothering to tell anyone in which capacity he is bringing her. Not only would he cause great trouble to all protocol experts and those organizing events, but he would damage his personal credibility and his role (and I'm not talking about private lives; there they should be free!).
I apply the same standards to Albert. I think the fact that we literally watch young royals from their birth makes us at the same time too demanding and too soft towards them: we sometimes demand perfection, but we are also ready to condone any behaviour, because we want them happy, well settled, with kids, a beautiful bride, maybe we know thay lost their mother, or father, or a true love, all things we would never consider when judging an elected politician!
Albert should, in my opinion, do one of two things: he fears the press, the pressure, he wants to take time? Then he has to stop bringing Charlene at public fonctions and just bring her to the cinema or to private trips. Otherwise, he has to make a public statement clearing the air about Charlene status; after he tells everyone if she is his girlfriend, or companion, or bride to be (all would be fine with me) he can have her by his side in his official capacity.
The ambiguity greatly damages his scarce credibility in the national and international political arena, and whether we remember it or not, Albert is not a starlet, a rock star or a football player, but a Head of State of a nation in need of credibility.

ETA: sorry for the OT but I don't agree about Charles ruining Diana's life...they both contributed there.

Exactly! Thanks for explaining what should be obvious and shouldn't have to be explained!

What is worse, is that Albert seems to want to have an even higher profile than his father, in both his role and for Monaco, possibly a more serious side in the global world. (jmo) This seems to be his focus, so having his current girlfriend tagging along everywhere he goes amongst other dignitaries, who I can't believe are impressed by this gesture? Since it would seem this action discounts their own position and the event itself, when Albert hasn't given Charlene a status that is worthy of showing up publically at so many public events where Albert has a role. There is a reason a private relationship is referred to as such? Why is it so important that Charlene accompanies him to all these funtions before they are officially engaged? (especially when she seems bored out of her mind at many of them).

Maybe he should take notice of the problem Giulliani is having now, for doing much the same thing with his wanna-be girlfriend and even now, that she is his wife -- Her over stepping her role, as well as, the way they both fluanted their relationship is now taking it's toll on his political career. In my book his wife is not his only weakness and baggage, but she is a big example of it, which she highlights. So, I hope his wife Judy makes him happy and "that is all that matters"?

What happens if/or when Albert breaks with Charlene?? Does Albert really think he is going to be able to show up everywhere with another girl, half his age? (Or any age?) Everytime he gets a new girlfriend, is he going to want to prance her out on public display with the same dignitaries? All I can say, is that I believe, he has made his bed now, he better be planning to marry Charlene and hope she is worth it! Because his conduct in promoting this relationship so publically from almost day one, doesn't really give him much option?? (IMO) Besides it would have turned off any discriminating, intelligent woman that possessed some grace, who might have otherwise found Albert interesting and attractive. Now that they have managed to make this relationship so nauseating (IMO). He might as well get it over with and just marry her, as it seems Albert is not a very complex man (IMO), perhaps all he needs is a simple young girl to make him happy and she will be be worth any limitations he might encounter in having married her or someone much the same? I think maybe many of us are just irritated because we were just disillusined, because we hoped or thought perhaps Albert was a more evolved kind of man and didn't have such limited and outdated ideas concerning women and/or relationships? (jmo) I guess it is encouraging in how many women are turned off by this. I know longer read these threads because of Albert or his realtionships - Sadly, I'm not sure even Monaco offers much interest for me anymore. It's more that I enjoy reading and participating in discussions with the many smart women on this board. That is really what is most enjoyable about the boards

[Elspeth]

Since this thread is about Albert and Charlene's relationship, don't let's get into "what happens if/when they break up?" We don't know what'll happen, and there's absolutely no point speculating about it. I know the current situation, which has apparently been going nowhere for a long time now, is annoying, but there's no point engaging in speculation about what might happen if the relationship ended.

[sandsla]

Originally Posted by Elspeth

Since this thread is about Albert and Charlene's relationship, don't let's get into "what happens if/when they break up?" We don't know what'll happen, and there's absolutely no point speculating about it. I know the current situation, which has apparently been going nowhere for a long time now, is annoying, but there's no point engaging in speculation about what might happen if the relationship ended.

Oh Elspeth I agree, I was originally just trying to point out why I think the relationship being played out in such a public way and Charlene being presented as she has been, might be a real problem for Albert in the future. Sorry, that I took it to further speculation

[Ghislaine]

I second and/or third Grace and Sandsla's posts. You have put it more eloquently and better than I can.
But there's one thing you have both forgotten: Monaco is a catholic state, with no separation between church and state. Very unusual in these days. So Albert as head of state, ruling by the grace of God, should keep that in mind too and behave like it. So far, given events, behaviour and Charlene's unofficial official role, Albert has been giving (IMO) the impression he's is living together with Charlene. Living in sin, to use the more churchly term. And while Albert claims he is a practising catholic, his behaviour is rather contrary to that. (Two kids outside of marriage, his playboy image). This living in sin (alleged or not) is yet another thing that's against church policy. So he's not only disregarding protocol but also basic catholic teachings. And there really is no need and no excuse for either.

[TrustWorthy]

Originally Posted by Ghislaine

I second and/or third Grace and Sandsla's posts. You have put it more eloquently and better than I can.
But there's one thing you have both forgotten: Monaco is a catholic state, with no separation between church and state. Very unusual in these days. So Albert as head of state, ruling by the grace of God, should keep that in mind too and behave like it. So far, given events, behaviour and Charlene's unofficial official role, Albert has been giving (IMO) the impression he's is living together with Charlene. Living in sin, to use the more churchly term. And while Albert claims he is a practising catholic, his behaviour is rather contrary to that. (Two kids outside of marriage, his playboy image). This living in sin (alleged or not) is yet another thing that's against church policy. So he's not only disregarding protocol but also basic catholic teachings. And there really is no need and no excuse for either.

Albert should make peace with his God and his Country: marry Charlene with his two children by their sides. Show a new chapter in his life and lead by example.

[hibou]

Apparently Bunte has an article with quotes from Charlene saying her address is now the palace and that Albert bought her the necklace. Can anyone get their hands on the article and let us know? Thanks!

[goody7058]

Bunte trying to sell mag again, if Albert bought that necklace for Charlene that nice of him if she was living in the palace people would have seen her come out.

[Lakshmi]

Originally Posted by TrustWorthy

Albert should make peace with his God and his Country: marry Charlene with his two children by their sides. Show a new chapter in his life and lead by example.

It is a nice wish, although Albert & Charlene relationship doesn't seem to go in marriage direction.
But why did you posted flag of Morocco ?