Albert and Charlene's Relationship

[Ghislaine]

Originally Posted by CasiraghiTrio

Thank you for posting this, Michelle. The emboldened bits are so logical. You're dead on right about there being a reason for CW and PA, and the reason being theirs to have and unnecessary for us to know, and it is just absurd to think it's a conspiracy for PR or something, because in the unlikely event it's a PR sham, it's a bad one, isn't it? I think if the courtiers were conspiring to marry off PA for PR reasons, they should have found someone more typecast who could capture hearts, and whatever one can say about CW, she is certainly not the "type" you would expect the son of Princess Grace, brother of Princess Caroline and Princess Stephanie, to fall in love with. That he has chosen her leads me to the conclusion that there is something about her he sees that no one else can see. He who can have anyone he wants would not have a woman around unless he wanted her around, would he? CW has the position that many Euro socialites would lineup for, doesn't she?

Just for the record, I was not suggesting that any courtiers were conspiring to marry off Albert. I was suggesting that Albert himself thought this was a good idea. Possibly to get Monaco week after week on the frontpages or for whatever reason that seems logical to him. And the reason she goes along? Sponsor money, networking opportunities, celeb status, the opportunities are endless?
{removed response to deleted post - Elspeth}

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by Jaya

What is wrong with this picture is that Cw has no education and has no high school diploma in the year 2007.That is equal to being functionally illiterate in these times and I just have to wonder what this lady will pass down to children who romantics feel have to be born to justify the existence and the throne over in Monaco.Albert has children out of wedlock but he has completed his university degree so when he needs to converse and not cough with a head of State he will know what to say.Not only do they have a massive age gap between them but the differnece in their cultural upbringing is gargantuan.The divide is that CW has no higher education which would have immediately earned her the respect of all and sundry.Nor has she done anything in the arts to compensate for here lack of it in these areas.She has no linguistic skills and does not speak French even.... That is what is wrong with this picture despite the airbrushing going on.......This is fair and reasonable... when there is a debate going on....
Just how the Grimaldi sisters fit into this has no bearing...

Again I ask...when did having a University degree become prerequisite for the position of Princess? The current Queen of England has none. Neither the current Queen of Spain. The late Princess of Wales dropped out of school at 16. I completely agree that the Princess of Monaco should speak French. But who is to say she is not learning the language as we speak? What "linguistic skills" did Grace Kelly have when she became Princess? She never mastered the French language according to her close friend author Gwen Robyns...she remained a student her entire life. BTW...do you really believe that the citizens of Monaco were thrilled to bits in 1956 to hear that their Sovereign Prince was to marry a commoner American actress? Because trust me, I have done the research and the reading that posters on this forum are always suggesting...and they were not happy AT ALL. It took them several years to warm to Grace, and most of the nobility of Europe boycotted her wedding.

You mention the "airbrushing going on". May I ask WHAT airbrushing you are referring to? Are you referring to the lack of negative Press in England, Monaco or the Continent? Maybe it's because there IS nothing negative to report?

I mentioned the past of the Princesses Stephanie and Caroline because I indeed think it has bearing on the situation. We are saying that Charlene Wittstock is not fit to join the exalted company of these women who, despite their many gifts and contributions have done their share of bringing disrepute to Monaco, and nothing in Charlene's past that we have heard of so far can TOUCH having out of wedlock children and affairs with married men, IMO.

[sebastian]

Originally Posted by Jaya

What is wrong with this picture is that Cw has no education and has no high school diploma in the year 2007.That is equal to being functionally illiterate in these times and I just have to wonder what this lady will pass down to children who romantics feel have to be born to justify the existence and the throne over in Monaco.Albert has children out of wedlock but he has completed his university degree so when he needs to converse and not cough with a head of State he will know what to say.Not only do they have a massive age gap between them but the differnece in their cultural upbringing is gargantuan.The divide is that CW has no higher education which would have immediately earned her the respect of all and sundry.Nor has she done anything in the arts to compensate for here lack of it in these areas.She has no linguistic skills and does not speak French even.... That is what is wrong with this picture despite the airbrushing going on.......This is fair and reasonable... when there is a debate going on....

Nope, obviously I can't drop it just yet.
Don't read this as any kind of try to defend Charlene. But I write this as some kind of self-defense.I have no university degree either but I do speak both English and French fluently.I like to read and write. I write music and play it ever since I was a kid.... etc. Princess Grace didn't go to College. Princess Stephanie didn't go to College. My sister did. My little brother does. I, as I said, didn't. I'll tell you something. It doesn't make a difference here. I really don't know if it does make a difference in Charlene's case ( I know it does make a difference sometimes in a lot of cases) , but I doubt it does - because if it would make a difference, if it would bother Albert, if they had nothing to talk about - do you really think he would be with her, do you really think she'd still be around ? I don't. From what I know about Albert: He's a clever guy, he'd be more than fed up if there wasn't something that they have in common, that they can share.
It took Princess Grace years to speak French they way she wanted to and even when Stephanie was a teen she still got corrected by her kids. All of that is just fine.
How do you know Charlene doesn't speak French yet but still feels somehow uncomfortable using it ? - that is btw the information I have.

If one day we learn and are prooven that Charlene and Albert are only pretending to have a realtionship, that all of this is just some stunt they're pulling to get publicity - then I'll be completely taken apart and prooven wrong - but I highly doubt that. Reasson for doubting that?! Yes, I recieve different information and I know and remember Albert and the family as not that type of people .

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by sebastian

Nope, obviously I can't drop it just yet.
Don't read this as any kind of try to defend Charlene. But I write this as some kind of self-defense.I have no university degree either but I do speak both English and French fluently.I like to read and write. I write music and play it ever since I was a kid.... etc. Princess Grace didn't go to College. Princess Stephanie didn't go to College. My sister did. My little brother does. I, as I said, didn't. I'll tell you something. It doesn't make a difference here. I really don't know if it does make a difference in Charlene's case ( I know it does make a difference sometimes in a lot of cases) , but I doubt it does - because if it would make a difference, if it would bother Albert, if they had nothing to talk about - do you really think he would be with her, do you really think she'd still be around ? I don't. From what I know about Albert: He's a clever guy, he'd be more than fed up if there wasn't something that they have in common, that they can share.
It took Princess Grace years to speak French they way she wanted to and even when Stephanie was a teen she still got corrected by her kids. All of that is just fine.
How do you know Charlene doesn't speak French yet but still feels somehow uncomfortable using it ? - that is btw the information I have.

If one day we learn and are prooven that Charlene and Albert are only pretending to have a realtionship, that all of this is just some stunt they're pulling to get publicity - then I'll be completely taken apart and prooven wrong - but I highly doubt that. Reasson for doubting that?! Yes, I recieve different information and I know and remember Albert and the family as not that type of people .

Bravo sebastian, especially your last paragraph. I agree wholeheartedly.

I regret to say that I left college after two years, but I taught myself to read
French fairly well, and I am currently learning Spanish and Italian. I am a voracious reader and I have been since childhood.

Self-education is a life long process...or it should be, IMO. Even for people who DO have a University degree.

Some of the most ignorant and unsophisticated people I know graduated from
college.

[hibou]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreamin

Again I ask...when did having a University degree become prerequisite for the position of Princess? The current Queen of England has none. Neither the current Queen of Spain. The late Princess of Wales dropped out of school at 16. I completely agree that the Princess of Monaco should speak French. But who is to say she is not learning the language as we speak? What "linguistic skills" did Grace Kelly have when she became Princess? She never mastered the French language according to her close friend author Gwen Robyns...she remained a student her entire life. BTW...do you really believe that the citizens of Monaco were thrilled to bits in 1956 to hear that their Sovereign Prince was to marry a commoner American actress? Because trust me, I have done the research and the reading that posters on this forum are always suggesting...and they were not happy AT ALL. It took them several years to warm to Grace, and most of the nobility of Europe boycotted her wedding.

You mention the "airbrushing going on". May I ask WHAT airbrushing you are referring to? Are you referring to the lack of negative Press in England, Monaco or the Continent? Maybe it's because there IS nothing negative to report?

I mentioned the past of the Princesses Stephanie and Caroline because I indeed think it has bearing on the situation. We are saying that Charlene Wittstock is not fit to join the exalted company of these women who, despite their many gifts and contributions have done their share of bringing disrepute to Monaco, and nothing in Charlene's past that we have heard of so far can TOUCH having out of wedlock children and affairs with married men, IMO.

to paraphase Mark Twain: I never let my schoolin' interfere with my education. Charlene doesn't appear to have learned much of anything no matter what approach you take Univ. degree or not and as far as the Queen of England goes to quote Oscar Wilde "The Queen is not a subject"

I also think we are beating a dead horse. We each have our opinions and at this point no amount of debate is going to change them unless Charlene herself steps to the plate. I to have to say that had she kept her mouth shut we'd have nothing to go on. I think we need to give it a rest until the next interview.

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by hibou

to paraphase Mark Twain: I never let my schoolin' interfere with my education. Charlene doesn't appear to have learned much of anything no matter what approach you take Univ. degree or not and as far as the Queen of England goes to quote Oscar Wilde "The Queen is not a subject"

I also think we are beating a dead horse. We each have our opinions and at this point no amount of debate is going to change them unless Charlene herself steps to the plate. I to have to say that had she kept her mouth shut we'd have nothing to go on. I think we need to give it a rest until the next interview.

Fair enough. We each have our opinions, and I see nothing wrong with disagreeing with one another which we obviously do. "The Queen is not a subject" but neither will Ms Wittstock be if she becomes Princess. I still maintain that that her lack of formal education is almost totally irrevelant, and I used the example of current Princesses and Queens as an example.

I myself pray that there ARE no more interviews. Because no matter what she says I have a feeling that it will be ripped to shreds in way way or another.

[hibou]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreamin

Fair enough. We each have our opinions, and I see nothing wrong with disagreeing with one another which we obviously do. "The Queen is not a subject" but neither will Ms Wittstock be if she becomes Princess. I still maintain that that her lack of formal education is almost totally irrevelant, and I used the example of current Princesses and Queens as an example.

I myself pray that there ARE no more interviews. Because no matter what she says I have a feeling that it will be ripped to shreds in way way or another.

I agree she needs to keep her mouth shut and I don't know how they can repair her image. As far as becoming Princess she will only be subject to more press- good and bad as she will then be a public figure. You missed my point with the Mark Twain quote schooling and education. So let's give it a rest and see what happens next.

[Jaya]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreamin

Again I ask...when did having a University degree become prerequisite for the position of Princess? The current Queen of England has none. Neither the current Queen of Spain. The late Princess of Wales dropped out of school at 16. I completely agree that the Princess of Monaco should speak French. But who is to say she is not learning the language as we speak? What "linguistic skills" did Grace Kelly have when she became Princess? She never mastered the French language according to her close friend author Gwen Robyns...she remained a student her entire life. BTW...do you really believe that the citizens of Monaco were thrilled to bits in 1956 to hear that their Sovereign Prince was to marry a commoner American actress? Because trust me, I have done the research and the reading that posters on this forum are always suggesting...and they were not happy AT ALL. It took them several years to warm to Grace, and most of the nobility of Europe boycotted her wedding.

You mention the "airbrushing going on". May I ask WHAT airbrushing you are referring to? Are you referring to the lack of negative Press in England, Monaco or the Continent? Maybe it's because there IS nothing negative to report?

I mentioned the past of the Princesses Stephanie and Caroline because I indeed think it has bearing on the situation. We are saying that Charlene Wittstock is not fit to join the exalted company of these women who, despite their many gifts and contributions have done their share of bringing disrepute to Monaco, and nothing in Charlene's past that we have heard of so far can TOUCH having out of wedlock children and affairs with married men, IMO.

At the time Queen Elizabeth was in her prime they had just done away with the horse and carriage.Queen Sofia has a degree in neo natalism for your information.She has also studied or rather audited history& archeology classes at the University of Athens......The used horse and carriage then... Now we drive cars and use these computers......They had one bar of soap for everything then and now we have cosmetics....Elizabeth is 81 and Sofia 69... how do theycompare to the modern Cw of twenty nine? It is a ludicrous comparison and proves the point of these warped age differences whether historically or on a personal level.
Since when is it a pre requisite to auction off the supposed unbesmirched past of CW versus a higher education to the highest bidder?There must be a timewarp somewhere....

[rosalee]

Hi everyone!

I have friends who work in Monaco. It seems: Albert let Charlene go home last year, pack up her life slowly while pursuing her last race. This way she could dispose of things, say good-byes, and leave her old life quietly, etc ... without too many people going through her garbage, raiding her luggage in transit and stealing her mementos for storytelling purposes. With everyone thinking they had split up, who was going to bother with her anymore???

She MOVED to Monaco a few months ago and is slowly being ensconced into the lifestyle of PA's family. He bought her the car for her own autonomy. She no longer has one in SA. He has a budget for her public relations and clothes and she usually has a bodyguard now as well. She has quarters in the palace and an account with most stores, etc .. in Monaco. She is being allowed to get used to the paparazzi as a "commoner" which is hard and scrutinous enough .. while they enjoy one another's company and make some Life decisions without being under a more serious microscope. Something similar was done with other royal brides-to-be .. they just kept moving closer and closer to their new homes and spending more and more time becoming part of their new families!

Even with learning French ... I am sure something is going on in the background .. but she will ONLY use the language during her first official speech .. she would not need to speak in French before then. I have heard that she had a French teacher assigned to her back in SA?

She really cannot be training for the Olympics in Monaco ... she is out late, eating rich foods, smoking, drinking and hardly spends an hour a day at any pool!? She is done with the Olympics but it will be who she is until her role changes! What would we have them say, "she does nothing"?

Let's theorize that he might really like this woman ... enjoys her beauty and company as he sees her ... and even if we all perceive her to have great flaws, how noble of him to not notice a single one and love her anyway! :o)

R.

[Jaya]

Originally Posted by sebastian

Nope, obviously I can't drop it just yet.
Don't read this as any kind of try to defend Charlene. But I write this as some kind of self-defense.I have no university degree either but I do speak both English and French fluently.I like to read and write. I write music and play it ever since I was a kid.... etc. Princess Grace didn't go to College. Princess Stephanie didn't go to College. My sister did. My little brother does. I, as I said, didn't. I'll tell you something. It doesn't make a difference here. I really don't know if it does make a difference in Charlene's case ( I know it does make a difference sometimes in a lot of cases) , but I doubt it does - because if it would make a difference, if it would bother Albert, if they had nothing to talk about - do you really think he would be with her, do you really think she'd still be around ? I don't. From what I know about Albert: He's a clever guy, he'd be more than fed up if there wasn't something that they have in common, that they can share.
It took Princess Grace years to speak French they way she wanted to and even when Stephanie was a teen she still got corrected by her kids. All of that is just fine.
How do you know Charlene doesn't speak French yet but still feels somehow uncomfortable using it ? - that is btw the information I have.

If one day we learn and are prooven that Charlene and Albert are only pretending to have a realtionship, that all of this is just some stunt they're pulling to get publicity - then I'll be completely taken apart and prooven wrong - but I highly doubt that. Reasson for doubting that?! Yes, I recieve different information and I know and remember Albert and the family as not that type of people .

Please has CW read L'Etranger to you too by Albert Camus.. that any sixteen year old learning French can read?
Charlene uncomfortable using French?
But not uncomfortable striding in and out of the trappings of her billionaire lover's pad?How does one reconcile that modesty of her humility and unease in one sector to the other .... can anyone who has not been to university please reply?

[sebastian]

Originally Posted by rosalee

Hi everyone!

I have friends who work in Monaco. It seems: Albert let Charlene go home last year, pack up her life slowly while pursuing her last race. This way she could dispose of things, say good-byes, and leave her old life quietly, etc ... without too many people going through her garbage, raiding her luggage in transit and stealing her mementos for storytelling purposes. With everyone thinking they had split up, who was going to bother with her anymore???

She MOVED to Monaco a few months ago and is slowly being ensconced into the lifestyle of PA's family. He bought her the car for her own autonomy. She no longer has one in SA. He has a budget for her public relations and clothes and she usually has a bodyguard now as well. She has quarters in the palace and an account with most stores, etc .. in Monaco. She is being allowed to get used to the paparazzi as a "commoner" which is hard and scrutinous enough .. while they enjoy one another's company and make some Life decisions without being under a more serious microscope. Something similar was done with other royal brides-to-be .. they just kept moving closer and closer to their new homes and spending more and more time becoming part of their new families!

Even with learning French ... I am sure something is going on in the background .. but she will ONLY use the language during her first official speech .. she would not need to speak in French before then. I have heard that she had a French teacher assigned to her back in SA?

She really cannot be training for the Olympics in Monaco ... she is out late, eating rich foods, smoking, drinking and hardly spends an hour a day at any pool!? She is done with the Olympics but it will be who she is until her role changes! What would we have them say, "she does nothing"?

Let's theorize that he might really like this woman ... enjoys her beauty and company as he sees her ... and even if we all perceive her to have great flaws, how noble of him to not notice a single one and love her anyway! :o)

R.

Rosalee, you're giving exactly the information I have and don't see anything wrong with the way they have things get into its place.

Here are a few pictures. Not recent ones. But still:

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...000034.bro.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...000042.bro.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...000075.bro.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...000076.bro.jpg

Charlene - a sweety on these
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...000013.bro.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...000029.bro.jpg

And two pics I know some have already stated that they find them highly inappropriate - but I like especially because if their relationship is what these two pictures get across then they're lucky:

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...000010.bro.jpg
ttp://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o4...000009.bro.jpg


( mods, feel free to move this post to the Albert and Charlene's relationship - thread )

[Jaya]

Originally Posted by rosalee

Hi everyone!

I have friends who work in Monaco. It seems: Albert let Charlene go home last year, pack up her life slowly while pursuing her last race. This way she could dispose of things, say good-byes, and leave her old life quietly, etc ... without too many people going through her garbage, raiding her luggage in transit and stealing her mementos for storytelling purposes. With everyone thinking they had split up, who was going to bother with her anymore???

She MOVED to Monaco a few months ago and is slowly being ensconced into the lifestyle of PA's family. He bought her the car for her own autonomy. She no longer has one in SA. He has a budget for her public relations and clothes and she usually has a bodyguard now as well. She has quarters in the palace and an account with most stores, etc .. in Monaco. She is being allowed to get used to the paparazzi as a "commoner" which is hard and scrutinous enough .. while they enjoy one another's company and make some Life decisions without being under a more serious microscope. Something similar was done with other royal brides-to-be .. they just kept moving closer and closer to their new homes and spending more and more time becoming part of their new families!

Even with learning French ... I am sure something is going on in the background .. but she will ONLY use the language during her first official speech .. she would not need to speak in French before then. I have heard that she had a French teacher assigned to her back in SA?

She really cannot be training for the Olympics in Monaco ... she is out late, eating rich foods, smoking, drinking and hardly spends an hour a day at any pool!? She is done with the Olympics but it will be who she is until her role changes! What would we have them say, "she does nothing"?

Let's theorize that he might really like this woman ... enjoys her beauty and company as he sees her ... and even if we all perceive her to have great flaws, how noble of him to not notice a single one and love her anyway! :o)

R.

If what you say is true the sooner the better............ they marry because they deserve each other and we deserve a happy ending too.....
Can't wait for the announcement.They should step up to the plate....and we should hear the nuptial bells toll at St. Nicholas.

[lilae]

I have friends in Monaco too... So I'm not a good example...

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by Jaya

At the time Queen Elizabeth was in her prime they had just done away with the horse and carriage.Queen Sofia has a degree in neo natalism for your information.She has also studied or rather audited history& archeology classes at the University of Athens......The used horse and carriage then... Now we drive cars and use these computers......They had one bar of soap for everything then and now we have cosmetics....Elizabeth is 81 and Sofia 69... how do theycompare to the modern Cw of twenty nine? It is a ludicrous comparison and proves the point of these warped age differences whether historically or on a personal level.
Since when is it a pre requisite to auction off the supposed unbesmirched past of CW versus a higher education to the highest bidder?There must be a timewarp somewhere....

You left out Diana Spencer, high school dropout at 16. Is that a "ludicrous" comparison as well? I fail to see what cars and bars of soap OR cosmetics has to do with this conversation. I never said Ms Wittstock's reputation is "unbesmirched". <personal comments deleted - Elspeth>

[acdc1]

I personally don't think they'll get married. I actually don't think Albert will ever marry anyone. He just likes women too much, IMO. But I think that this relationship will last for a good amount of time.

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by hibou

Nope not true she completed her necessary education but she didn't take her "O" levels and then did what most wealthy titled girls her age did - they went to finishing school.

Oh God..I have read almost everything in print about the late Diana Spencer. SHE FAILED ALL HER O LEVELS. And then quit finishing school at L'Institute Alpin Videmanette in Switzerland because she was homesick!

She spent her first State dinner on her honeymoon with Anwar and Mme Sadat yapping about "mangoes" in reply to any and all conversation the Presidential couple attempted to have with her, according to one of her biographers.

I have no opinion on whether or not this constitutes "necessary education" for a young woman of her social background and class.

[hibou]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaDreamin

Oh God..I have read almost everything in print about the late Diana Spencer. SHE FAILED ALL HER O LEVELS. And then quit finishing school at L'Institute Alpin Videmanette in Switzerland because she was homesick!

She spent her first State dinner on her honeymoon with Anwar and Mme Sadat yapping about "mangoes" in reply to any and all conversation the Presidential couple attempted to have with her, according to one of her biographers.

I have no opinion on whether or not this constitutes "necessary education" for a young woman of her social background and class.

Exactly one of the points that Jaya is making. Charlene will also be in the Diana position if she is Princess what is she going to talk about?

[Mandy]

A few posts about Diana, Queen Elizabeth, Camus, cosmetics, etc, are now gone, so please, let's move on. As I recall, this thread is about Albert and Charlene's Relationship.

Thanks,

Mandy

[paca]

Rosalee, one question though. You claim that Albert bought her a car. Why would he buy her an Audi sportscar instead of a Hybrid car which he is driving and promoting himself. And by doing so (buying her a car) inviting Bunte for a promotional photoshoot which Audi puts on their official campaign?? Doesn't add up in my books.

Also, if she is learning French, why would she save it for her first speech? In my experience it is practice that makes you perfect, especially if you start learning a language late in life and have not learned other foreign languages before (it is a lot easier to learn a new language later in life if you already speak more then 2 fluently). And I have stood close by observing that she has not enough knowledge of French to command to ask for food in a cantine. The guy serving her probably knew enough English and would have easily understood if she would have given it a shot... like most people here btw and people here happen to be much more pleased with people who are trying and making an effort then people who take it for granted that people speak English or using someone else to translate, which is more often then not perceived as arrogant. And since you compared with other brides to be: they all had a job while they were getting closer to their new families, they weren't completely bludging of them and claiming that they were doing sth that they had no intention of doing. Also they did not run to the media continuously giving interviews about themselves and what their plans for the future were. They were on the contrary completely mum aout their relationships whereas Charlene from the very first time she met Albert gave a step by step account of their meeting plus just being perceived in Turin by the media couldn't help herself but stating to the world that they were lovers. Sorry, but none of the other princesses treated their future husbands like a trophy to proclaim to the world that they got them.

And why would ALbert have a budget for her public relations? why would she need PR? If anything the little PR that she would need, would be an hours work for one of Alberts PR people. I don't see any reason why she would need a PR team: she has no job that requires it and she is not a princess yet and once she is that would be handled all by the press office. Very odd indeed.

[lilae]

Originally Posted by paca

Rosalee, one question though. You claim that Albert bought her a car. Why would he buy her an Audi sportscar instead of a Hybrid car which he is driving and promoting himself. And by doing so (buying her a car) inviting Bunte for a promotional photoshoot which Audi puts on their official campaign?? Doesn't add up in my books.
.................................... were getting closer to their new families, they weren't completely bludging of them and claiming that they were doing sth that they had no intention of doing. Also they did not run to the media continuously giving interviews about themselves and what their plans for the future were. They were on the contrary completely mum aout their relationships whereas Charlene from the very first time she met Albert gave a step by step account of their meeting plus just being perceived in Turin by the media couldn't help herself but stating to the world that they were lovers......................And why would ALbert have a budget for her public relations? why would she need PR? If anything the little PR that she would need, would be an hours work for one of Alberts PR people. I don't see any reason why she would need a PR team: she has no job that requires it and she is not a princess yet and once she is that would be handled all by the press office. Very odd indeed.

I second that.. if my english was fluent, i could write that... Monaco is city of gossiping yes, but people working "around" palace know they have to be very careful when speaking- they aren't allowed to speak- so if I had same informations as you seems to have I'll never post them in a forum in the same way you wrote...because these supposed inside informations are special (learning french, money, car) if PR reads they could search who is gossiping a lot and your friends could be fired...JMO