Tiara and Jewels guessing for King Charles Coronation

[Lilyflo]

I'd rather not see the late Queen's main tiaras worn by anyone other than the Queen Consort. I think it's appropriate to keep their status at monarch/consort level. I include the Girls, the Vlad, the Kokoshnik, the Belgian Sapphire, the Brazilian Aquamarine and the Burmese Ruby (even though I dislike it!)

The Princess of Wales has use of the Lover's Knot, the Lotus and could also be permanently loaned the Oriental Circlet, Queen Mary's Fringe and the Boucheron (the latter being grand enough for the coronation).

Princess Anne and Sophie Wessex have her own tiaras so don't need loans, although I've said before I'd like to see the creation of an Edinburgh tiara for Sophie when (if) that Dukedom goes to Edward.

Eugenie, Beatrice and Zara could wear their wedding tiaras and Louise could wear the Halo or ideally the Strathmore Rose.

If Meghan attends then the obvious choice is her wedding tiara.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

I'd rather not see the late Queen's main tiaras worn by anyone other than the Queen Consort. I think it's appropriate to keep their status at monarch/consort level. I include the Girls, the Vlad, the Kokoshnik, the Belgian Sapphire, the Brazilian Aquamarine and the Burmese Ruby (even though I dislike it!)

I agree. The Oriental Circlet should be added to this list, as it belongs to the Crown.

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

The Princess of Wales has use of the Lover's Knot, the Lotus and could also be permanently loaned the Oriental Circlet, Queen Mary's Fringe and the Boucheron (the latter being grand enough for the coronation).

The QM Fringe would be a good one to add to the collection of the Princess of Wales.

I think the Greville Boucheron will remain with the Queen, she has used it regularly for many years, and I suspect will continue to be used by her as her "main" all diamond tiara.

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

Eugenie, Beatrice and Zara could wear their wedding tiaras and Louise could wear the Halo or ideally the Strathmore Rose.

I would like to see the Greville emerald only be worn by either the Queen or the Princess of Wales. There are other choices for Eugenie (Strathmore Rose, Halo, QM Lozenge)

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

I'd rather not see the late Queen's main tiaras worn by anyone other than the Queen Consort. I think it's appropriate to keep their status at monarch/consort level. I include the Girls, the Vlad, the Kokoshnik, the Belgian Sapphire, the Brazilian Aquamarine and the Burmese Ruby (even though I dislike it!)

I agree there are certain tiaras that should be reserved solely for the Queen consort

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

I agree there are certain tiaras that should be reserved solely for the Queen consort

Yes but i wouldn't include the Girls into it. Actally more the Lovers Knot tiara as that one more imposing abd bigger.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

I agree there are certain tiaras that should be reserved solely for the Queen consort

Originally Posted by Stefan

Yes but i wouldn't include the Girls into it. Actally more the Lovers Knot tiara as that one more imposing abd bigger.

I would not be averse to Anne using the Girls as a one-off for the Coronation. Ownership of the tiara should remain with the main line, and the next user of the tiara should then be the Princess of Wales.

[LauraS3514]

Originally Posted by muriel

I agree. The Oriental Circlet should be added to this list, as it belongs to the Crown.

The Oriental Circlet was left to the Crown by Queen Victoria for use by Queens only.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by LauraS3514

The Oriental Circlet was left to the Crown by Queen Victoria for use by Queens only.

That is correct.

It would be great to see Queen Camilla wear the Oriental Circlet in France on their first state visit.

[Lilyflo]

I'd forgotten about the Oriental Circlet being only for queens, in which case Camilla should definitely wear it at some point.

As the dress code for the coronation is day wear (so we believe), I wonder if anyone other than Camilla will wear a tiara? I suppose Catherine could as she's the next queen but maybe none of the others will.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

As the dress code for the coronation is day wear (so we believe), I wonder if anyone other than Camilla will wear a tiara? I suppose Catherine could as she's the next queen but maybe none of the others will.

We don't quite know what the dress code for the Coronation is, at this stage. But there is a real possibility that it is just Camilla and possibly, Catherine, who might wear a tiara / a crown.

It would be interesting to see if Camilla wears a tiara / diadem for the journey to the Abbey.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

I'd forgotten about the Oriental Circlet being only for queens, in which case Camilla should definitely wear it at some point.

As the dress code for the coronation is day wear (so we believe), I wonder if anyone other than Camilla will wear a tiara? I suppose Catherine could as she's the next queen but maybe none of the others will.

That would be the same as the dresscode at the Investiture of King Willem-Alexander: formal daywear for ladies and gentlemen, ceremonial tenue for military, only the Queen wears a diadem.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

I'd rather not see the late Queen's main tiaras worn by anyone other than the Queen Consort. I think it's appropriate to keep their status at monarch/consort level. I include the Girls, the Vlad, the Kokoshnik, the Belgian Sapphire, the Brazilian Aquamarine and the Burmese Ruby (even though I dislike it!)

The Princess of Wales has use of the Lover's Knot, the Lotus and could also be permanently loaned the Oriental Circlet, Queen Mary's Fringe and the Boucheron (the latter being grand enough for the coronation).

Princess Anne and Sophie Wessex have her own tiaras so don't need loans, although I've said before I'd like to see the creation of an Edinburgh tiara for Sophie when (if) that Dukedom goes to Edward.

Eugenie, Beatrice and Zara could wear their wedding tiaras and Louise could wear the Halo or ideally the Strathmore Rose.

If Meghan attends then the obvious choice is her wedding tiara.

Didn't Beatrice wear Queen Mary's fringe tiara at her wedding? It wouldn't be available to her then if it were on permanent loan to the Princess of Wales.



I am not sure if a "big" diadem like the Boucheron would suit Catherine's frame. I think the Queen Consort might want to keep it for herself, as also the Oriental Circlet.

[TLLK]

Originally Posted by muriel

I agree. The Oriental Circlet should be added to this list, as it belongs to the Crown.



The QM Fringe would be a good one to add to the collection of the Princess of Wales.

I think the Greville Boucheron will remain with the Queen, she has used it regularly for many years, and I suspect will continue to be used by her as her "main" all diamond tiara.



I would like to see the Greville emerald only be worn by either the Queen or the Princess of Wales. There are other choices for Eugenie (Strathmore Rose, Halo, QM Lozenge)

I would love to see the Strathmore Rose tiara on one of the late QEQM's descendants, however isn't it reportedly too fragile to be worn?

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

Didn't Beatrice wear Queen Mary's fringe tiara at her wedding? It wouldn't be available to her then if it were on permanent loan to the Princess of Wales.

Beatrice was lent the QM Fringe to wear to her wedding, and she can, if required, be lent a different tiara for the coronation.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by TLLK

I would love to see the Strathmore Rose tiara on one of the late QEQM's descendants, however isn't it reportedly too fragile to be worn?

That was certainly a rumour a few years ago, but if the tiara was required, I am sure it can be repaired.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by muriel

It would be great to see Queen Camilla wear the Oriental Circlet in France on their first state visit.

Let's hope she will be wearing a tiara at all. I wouldn't be suprised if she would ditch the tiaras for black tie State Banquets in Republic.
However i hope that she will follow in her mother-in-law's example.

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by muriel

It would be interesting to see if Camilla wears a tiara / diadem for the journey to the Abbey.

I hadn't thought of that until now!

[doro]

According to Danish media, Queen Margrethe should send to London Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary. So I guess any options for Mary:

The Ruby Parure
The Diamond, Ruby and Spinel Necklace Tiara
Her Wedding Tiara
The Midnight Tiara

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by doro

According to Danish media, Queen Margrethe should send to London Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary. So I guess any options for Mary:

The Ruby Parure
The Diamond, Ruby and Spinel Necklace Tiara
Her Wedding Tiara
The Midnight Tiara

Given the occasion, I wonder if CP Mary could borrow a tiara from the Royal Collection. Maybe The Emerald Parure? I don’t know if colored stones would be appropriate for a coronation service though.

[W.Y.CII]

isn't Denmark's emerald tiara not allowed to be taken outside Denmark? I think coloured stones are fine though, Norway's emerald parure has been worn in couples coronations.

[doro]

Originally Posted by W.Y.CII

isn't Denmark's emerald tiara not allowed to be taken outside Denmark? I think coloured stones are fine though, Norway's emerald parure has been worn in couples coronations.

Until I know, the Emerald parure can't be sold...