Tiara and Jewels guessing for King Charles Coronation


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Will the Princess of Wales wear The Chelsea Iris Brooch?

Its not an immediate choice that comes to mind.

Do you see a partiular association between the Princess of Wales and the brooch, or the brooch and the Coronation?
 
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I believe that if the Princess of Wales decided not to use the tiara and instead will go for a floral headpiece. I believe it will not suit her (considering the floral headpiece is made of real flowers) as with her current title, she is expected to be more mature while the floral headpiece will create a childish image of her. I also agree with what has been said by Tilia C., I think that the Princess of Wales should follow the dress code. I fully expected them to be harmonious in their attire to give a sense of union. That might be the reason why the Queen Mother and Princess Margaret wore Norman Hartnell for the late Queen's coronation. I also think that by harmoniously wearing the same types of headpieces (whether floral or tiara) will create a harmonious look, I hope they decked out their safe by using their best diamond, showcasing the significance of this particular event.

A floral headpiece is not necessarily a wreath of flowers, it can be a hat or fascinator with floral theme. That is actually a style the Princess of Wales is most seen with: picture. It can even be a diamond foral wreath headpiece, for an example the diamond Strathmore roses worn in a hatpiece.
 
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It's not conformed that the reception tomorrow will be a tiara event but here are my guesses just in case:

Queen Camilla: Modern Sapphire tiara
Catherine, Princess of Wales: Lovers Knot tiara
Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh: Wedding tiara
Anne, Princess Royal: Festoon tiara
Hereditary Princess Sophie: Hasburg Fringe tiara
Princess Elisabeth: Diamond Festoon tiara
Crown Princess Mette Marit: Diamond Daisy tiara
Queen Maxima: Stuart tiara
Princess Beatrix: Orante Pearl tiara
Princess Catharina-Amalia: Antique Pearl tiara
Crown Princess Mary: Ruby Parure tiara
Queen Letizia: Fleur de Lys tiara
Crown Princess Victoria: Baden Fringe tiara
Princess Charlene: Ocean tiara
Grand Duchess Maria Teresa: Belgian Scroll tiara
Queen Rania: Boucheron Bracelet tiara
Queen Jetsun Pema: Turquoise Bandeau Tiara
Crown Princess Kiko: Crown Princess Scroll tiara
 
It's not conformed that the reception tomorrow will be a tiara event but here are my guesses just in case:

Queen Camilla: Modern Sapphire tiara
Catherine, Princess of Wales: Lovers Knot tiara
Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh: Wedding tiara
Anne, Princess Royal: Festoon tiara
Hereditary Princess Sophie: Hasburg Fringe tiara
Princess Elisabeth: Diamond Festoon tiara
Crown Princess Mette Marit: Diamond Daisy tiara
Queen Maxima: Stuart tiara
Princess Beatrix: Orante Pearl tiara
Princess Catharina-Amalia: Antique Pearl tiara
Crown Princess Mary: Ruby Parure tiara
Queen Letizia: Fleur de Lys tiara
Crown Princess Victoria: Baden Fringe tiara
Princess Charlene: Ocean tiara
Grand Duchess Maria Teresa: Belgian Scroll tiara
Queen Rania: Boucheron Bracelet tiara
Queen Jetsun Pema: Turquoise Bandeau Tiara
Crown Princess Kiko: Crown Princess Scroll tiara

My thoughts:

Queen Camilla: Oriental Circlet, or the Kokoshnik
Catherine, Princess of Wales: Lovers Knot tiara or Queen Mary Fringe
Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh: Wedding tiara
Anne, Princess Royal: Festoon tiara
Princess Elisabeth: Diamond Festoon tiara
Crown Princess Mette Marit: Queen Maud diamond and pearl tiara
Queen Maxima: Not attending the reception
Princess Beatrix: Orante Pearl tiara
Princess Catharina-Amalia: Antique Pearl tiara
Crown Princess Mary: Ruby Parure tiara
Queen Letizia: Fleur de Lys tiara
Crown Princess Victoria: Baden Fringe tiara or Connaught tiara
Princess Charlene: Ocean tiara
Grand Duchess Maria Teresa: Lux Empire tiara
Queen Rania: ??
Queen Jetsun Pema: Turquoise Bandeau Tiara
Crown Princess Kiko: Crown Princess Scroll tiara
 
Queen Maxima is not attending the reception.
 
What about Queen Anne-Marie? Is she attending the reception as well?
 
I still think there will be no tiara event as all, not even the reception, but can't stop myself writing predictions, just in case I'm wrong ?

The ceremony ,
Camilla: state diadem
Kate: (I guess) QMLK (I wish) Delhi Durbar
Sophie: (I guess) her wedding tiara (I wish) Persian turquoise

The reception (if with tiara), realistically thinking,
Camilla: Belgian sapphire or Greville honeycomb
Kate: QMLK
Sophie: her wedding tiara
Anne: meander tiara
Letizia: FdL
MT: Belgian scroll or emerald art deco
Charlene: ......no tiara
Mary: wedding tiara with pearl
Mette-Marit: the amethyst
Sophie: Habsburg fringe
Victoria: Baden or Connaught or Boucheron wreath
Elisabeth: her birthday tiara or Q Elisabeth's bandeau or Brabant wreath
Catharina-Amalia: the stars or the base of antique pearls or Dutch wreath
Beatrix: Emma's diamond with ruby or sapphire necklace

Other new jewelries I would like to see (especially if there's no tiara),
Camilla: QV's fringe brooch
Kate: Greville brooch
Sophie: Greville emerald necklace (the one QM wore)
Anne: George VI festoon necklace
Mary: the Connaught sapphire brooch
Mette-Marit: royal order of Victoria and Albert's badge bracelet or the diamond earrings which allegedly is QV's Turkish earrings
Victoria: Edwardian ruby tiara as necklace
Sophie: P Gina's sapphire parure
Elisabeth: the necklace gift from Belgian nobles
Catharina-Amalia: the trellis necklace

BTW in my wildest dream:ROFLMAO:
Camilla: QA kokoshnik or oriental circlet
Kate: Delhi Durbar or Brazilian aquamarine
Sophie: Persian turquoise or Russian sapphire
Anne: QM's fringe or GGBI
Letizia: Ena's pearl and diamond
MT: the empire
Charlene: Charlotte's fringe
Mary: Poire pearl
Mette-Marit: Maud's diamond
Victoria: the cameo
Sophie: Bavarian pearl and diamond floral
Elisabeth: smaller setting of Spanish gift with ruby
Catharina-Amalia: shorter setting of the sapphire
Beatrix: Wurttemberg pearl with upper pearl

Sorry for the loooong post:D
 
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There will be a lot of disappointed Royal jewel watchers if there's not a tiara event after all our months of musings ;)
 
I'm not sure why anyone in the royal household would veto wearing tiaras and the grand jewels for the coronation out of some misguided assumption that, by doing so, they will keep the events more "low key".

A weekend long celebration of multiple events, featuring thousands of people, with tons of foreign dignitaries attending, will never be "low key". How not wearing their already owned jewels will somehow mute the effect, I have no idea.

If the Princess of Wales shows up with a crown of flowers in her hair tomorrow, I'm becoming a republican.
 
Possibly with the Cost of Living crisis having hundreds of guests arriving wearing glittering Tiaras and diamonds might not go down well with the general public.
 
Possibly with the Cost of Living crisis having hundreds of guests arriving wearing glittering Tiaras and diamonds might not go down well with the general public.




Then the King should have had a quiet ceremony, attended only by the royal family and the necessary governmental representatives if optics were a genuine concern. Like other monarchs have done in recent years.

It's the cost of hosting and securing a large celebration for thousands that takes money. Not wearing already owned jewels. Anyone watching the coronation would already know that the royals own fabulous jewels. It's not a surprise.

This scaling back is a case of wanting all the pomp and pretending that it's not pricey to the taxpayer just because the jewels aren't worn.
 
I assume that the British no longer deem tiaras and long gowns as a fitting dress code for a midday event.
 
The king wanted a Coronation and he has changed many of the rules,I don't mind if tiaras are not worn to the Abbey but I am hopefully that there will be a tiara gala at least.
 
The king wanted a Coronation and he has changed many of the rules,I don't mind if tiaras are not worn to the Abbey but I am hopefully that there will be a tiara gala at least.
Yes, that would be lovely. But wasn't it said that Charles and Camilla would only attend till 6 pm? Would they bother to put on a white tie dress code for a quick meet and greet reception in the late afternoon?

Well, if they do, I hope to see Camilla breaking in a tiara she hasn't worn before. Preferably the Oriental circlet or the diamond kokoshnik. I have no hope whatsoever to see anything out of the ordinary on the other members of the BRF. Unfortunately, not even on Catherine.:sad:
 
Yes, that would be lovely. But wasn't it said that Charles and Camilla would only attend till 6 pm?

I don't think there has been any real information put out in the public domain, just speculation on the part of the tabloids.
 
So no tiaras tonight!
 
I'm not sure why anyone in the royal household would veto wearing tiaras and the grand jewels for the coronation out of some misguided assumption that, by doing so, they will keep the events more "low key".

A weekend long celebration of multiple events, featuring thousands of people, with tons of foreign dignitaries attending, will never be "low key". How not wearing their already owned jewels will somehow mute the effect, I have no idea.


I believe the King and the courtiers felt that a parade of royals in grand jewels would be "bad optics" in a time of economic crisis. Your point is entirely valid, that is, the various royal families already own those jewels anyway (and actually have owned them in most cases for multiple generations), but the sight of all wearing them at the same time might look like an ostentatious display of wealth.



It is curious how the royal families of more "socialist" countries than the UK, like Denmark, Norway and Sweden, are those who actually are more likely to have white tie events even for trivial things like birtthday celebrations. But then the average person in the Scandinavian countries is probably richer than in the United Kingdom, so it isn't as much a political issue as it is Britain.
 
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I believe the King and the courtiers felt that a parade of royals in grand jewels would be "bad optics" in a time of economic crisis. Your point is entirely valid, that is, the various royal families already own those jewels anyway (and actually have owned them in most cases for multiple generations), but the sight of all wearing them at the same time might look like an ostentatious display of wealth.



It is curious how the royal families of more "socialist" countries than the UK, like Denmark, Norway and Sweden, are those who actually are more likely to have white events even for trivial things like birtthday celebrations. But then the average person in the Scandinavian countries is probably richer than in the United Kingdom, so it isn't as much a political issue as it is Britain.

I've always believed that those who enjoy a glittering spectical, like myself, suffer because the Palace (wrongly IMO) believe that toning it down will make those against royal families less hostile. It's unlikely that people of a republican mindset will be swayed the other way because a tiara isn't worn to an event and it's a pity it couldn't even have been a black tie dinner tonight as a reception seems TOO low key for such an occasion. I wonder where the foreign royals will go after the service tomorrow, I hope luncheon will be provided at the Palace and a historic group photo taken. Surely the powers that be won't have done away with that tradition as well.
 
I believe the King and the courtiers felt that a parade of royals in grand jewels would be "bad optics" in a time of economic crisis. Your point is entirely valid, that is, the various royal families already own those jewels anyway (and actually have owned them in most cases for multiple generations), but the sight of all wearing them at the same time might look like an ostentatious display of wealth.

It is curious how the royal families of more "socialist" countries than the UK, like Denmark, Norway and Sweden, are those who actually are more likely to have white tie events even for trivial things like birtthday celebrations. But then the average person in the Scandinavian countries is probably richer than in the United Kingdom, so it isn't as much a political issue as it is Britain.

I agree with you. I'm very fortunate in being financially comfortable but far too many of our citizens are not. An ostentatious display of glittering wealth would not be universally appreciated across the UK.
 
I agree with you. I'm very fortunate in being financially comfortable but far too many of our citizens are not. An ostentatious display of glittering wealth would not be universally appreciated across the UK.

The strange thing is that a sports award show, a Met Gala, an Emmy or BAFTA, a Wimbledon's Champions Diner, a Correspondents' Diner, a James Bond Movie Première, every high society wedding, the Royal Variety Show sees a dresscode more elaborate than at the Coronation. How is "an ostentatious display of wealth" okay for the President of South-Africa visiting London and not for dozens of the highest possible guests?
 
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The strange thing is that a sports award show, a Met Gala, an Emmy or BAFTA, a Wimbledon's Champions Diner, a Correspondents' Diner, a James Bond Movie Première, every high society wedding, the Royal Variety Show sees a dresscode more elaborate than at the Coronation. How is "an ostentatious display of wealth" okay for the President of South-Africa visiting London and not for dozens of the highest possible guests?

On a state visit like that of the President of South Africa, there are typically four or five royal ladies wearing diamond tiaras and few people aciually watch the live coverage of the state dinner anyway. The coronation service at the Abbey is likely to be watched live by millions of people across the UK and, if there were a procession of all the foreign royal families followed by the British royal family in gala dress, they would be seeing, I don't know, maybe as many as 20 ladies or more in tiaras and other gliterring accessories. I think that would be quite "ostentatious" in comparison.


I think it could be more appropriate to have a coronation gala dinner because, although there would be the same number of tiaras, it would attract less attention. The gala banquet could not be even televised so that we would only get pictures of the guests arriving as at today's reception.
 
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I understand the whole modernizing, slimming down, including and so on and so forth, but for God's sake, it is a CORONATION!!!! If the British public cannot stomach a white tie event with tiaras and decorations then I'd say get rid of the whole monarchy!!
I didn't expect a dozen of banquets and galas, but not a single one where the guest doesn't look like they are attending a casual get-together...
It is a shame....
 
The strange thing is that a sports award show, a Met Gala, an Emmy or BAFTA, a Wimbledon's Champions Diner, a Correspondents' Diner, a James Bond Movie Première, every high society wedding, the Royal Variety Show sees a dresscode more elaborate than at the Coronation. How is "an ostentatious display of wealth" okay for the President of South-Africa visiting London and not for dozens of the highest possible guests?
There’s just a lot of apathy and the optics for the BRF is something Charles is sensitive to especially for himself.
 
The strange thing is that a sports award show, a Met Gala, an Emmy or BAFTA, a Wimbledon's Champions Diner, a Correspondents' Diner, a James Bond Movie Première, every high society wedding, the Royal Variety Show sees a dresscode more elaborate than at the Coronation. How is "an ostentatious display of wealth" okay for the President of South-Africa visiting London and not for dozens of the highest possible guests?

The public perception is that we're paying for the royal family and the coronation at a time when many of our citizens can't afford their rent, energy or food bills. I expect that's why some aspects of it are lower key than some of us might have wished for.
 
The public perception is that we're paying for the royal family and the coronation at a time when many of our citizens can't afford their rent, energy or food bills. I expect that's why some aspects of it are lower key than some of us might have wished for.

But every Yeoman of the Guard, every musician of the Mounted Band of the Household Cavalry, every chorister of the Choir of the Chapel Royal has - for an example - the King's Cypher embroidered in golden galon. Thousand and thousands buttons with the King's monogram were stitched on the uniforms to be worn tomorrow. Hundres of ceremonial saddle clothes have been adapted to depict the King's symbols. These costs are gigantic. Taking out a diadem, made by Rundell & Bridge somewhere in 1889, costs no penny. And when foreign guests wear long and jewels it costs the British taxpayer not one penny more than these guests wearing jeans. I do not get the message of this Coronation. At the once side ancient and venerable splendour but at the other side: "No banquet, no ballet, no court ball", it is confusing at least. Even US Presidents have Inauguration Balls in black tie and long.
 
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