Tiara and Jewels guessing for King Charles Coronation

[Prinsara]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

My guess if Queen Sofia attends with Leonor,Princess of Asturias its will be the Fleur de lys on Queen Sofia and the Prussian Tiara on the Princess!

If Infanta Elena represents Spain it will be the Marichalar Meander Tiara or the Prussian Tiara.

Would Leonor be allowed to wear a tiara? She won't be 18 in May.

[ppetrica]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

That looks very much like the Strathmore to me. It's entirely possible that the bride was offered a selection by QE2 and chose this one. I really hope somebody wears it at the coronation so we have a good view of it.

I'm not convinced that Tatiana asked the Queen to loan her one of her tiaras. I didn't get the impression that they were so very close.
I see 2 options here. Either there is a very similar tiara created around the same time as the Strathmore Rose tiara and by the same jeweller. Situations like this happen a lot. Remember that aristocratic lady who wore an amethyst necklace almost identical to the Queen's Kent amethyst necklace? Princess Alexandra has a necklace almost identical to Queen Victoria's diamond and pearl necklace owned by QEII (there was also one necklace sold at Sotheby's years ago that looks the same).
Second option is that some other jeweler made a recreation of the Strathmore Rose tiara. Also nothing new. Jewelers do from time to time recreate some other jewels with more or less success.

Anyhow, I too hope to see this tiara on Lady Louise.

[GömdNatt]

Originally Posted by Prinsara

Would Leonor be allowed to wear a tiara? She won't be 18 in May.

Princess Alexandra of Luxembourg was 17 the first time she wore a tiara. While almost every family tends to stick to the "wait until 18" for a tiara, it's not necessarily a hard and fast rule.

I can see someone making an exception for this event, given it happens so very rarely. We haven't haven't seen one since 1953, after all. Though the next one will likely happen in a much more "reasonable" time. Should the monarchy last that long.

[Mary-Rose]

I really hope the British royal family and guests will wear Tiaras, especially for the British royal family. We may not seen so many Tiaras at one day-for many years. Of course I hope to see serious bling but there is no guarantee, Princess Margret wore the Halo scroll Tiara, a very small Tiara in my opinion and she was the 3rd in line back in 1953. My wish would be the Fringe or Girls of great Britain for the Princess of Wales. The Lotus would be good option for Zara, Eugenie or Beatrice, yes it was worn by the Princess of Wales but maybe it could be an one time loan. Another Question, may we see Camilla's daughter in the Cubit-Shand Tiara? And what about Lady Sarah Chatto? i think we will see her, maybe with the Turquoise Tiara?

[Mary-Rose]

At the moment it looks like monarchs are invited too, but I don't think we will see King Harald and Queen Sonja it seems to be likely CP Haakon and CP Mette Martit will attend, it would be a good opportunity to loan the Empress Josephine Emerald or Queen Josephine´s Diamond Tiara. If reigning monarchs actually attend the coronation it seems to be likely King Felipe and Queen Letizia attend. Queen Letizia and the Fleur de Lys a safe bet. Queen Mathilde and 9 provinces Tiara also pretty sure. Maxima could wear the full setting of the Stuart again or the Sapphire Tiara. I hope Queen Margrethe will be able to attend the Coronation If not, we may see CP Mary with Ruby Parure but I hope Queen Margrethe will loan her the Pearl Poire- i know very unlikely.

[Stefan]

Queen Mary's fringe tiara would be nice for the Princess of Wales. For Zara i guess it will be her Wedding tiara and for Eugenie either her Wedding tiara or the diamond and sapphire bandeau or that one for Eugnie. There is also another bandeau tziara in the Vaults which was last worn by Princess Margaret in the 1960's. For Lady Sarah i think she could again put the floral brooches in a frame like for her Wedding

[Mary-Rose]

Originally Posted by GömdNatt

Princess Alexandra of Luxembourg was 17 the first time she wore a tiara. While almost every family tends to stick to the "wait until 18" for a tiara, it's not necessarily a hard and fast rule.

I can see someone making an exception for this event, given it happens so very rarely. We haven't haven't seen one since 1953, after all. Though the next one will likely happen in a much more "reasonable" time. Should the monarchy last that long.

Unfortunately Spanish royals very strict-Letizia was not allowed to wear Tiara two weeks before her own wedding- Leonor might wear just a necklace no Tiara. On the other Queen -then Princess Sofia- wore the Prussian Tiara months before her 18th birthday...

[Mary-Rose]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Queen Mary's fringe tiara would be nice for the Princess of Wales. For Zara i guess it will be her Wedding tiara and for Eugenie either her Wedding tiara or the diamond and sapphire bandeau or that one for Eugnie. There is also another bandeau tziara in the Vaults which was last worn by Princess Margaret in the 1960's. For Lady Sarah i think she could again put the floral brooches in a frame like for her Wedding

I think you mean the Lozenge Bandeau? There is also a mystery Tiara worn by P.Anne and Two Aquamarine Tiaras worn by Sophie.

[sophie25]

I don't think Zara would want to wear a tiara, she distances herself very resolutely from anything that marks her out as 'royal'. I think she wore one on her wedding day as it's something that a lot of bride's wear (although most bridal tiaras are not made from real diamonds).

[JR76]

Originally Posted by Mary-Rose

At the moment it looks like monarchs are invited too, but I don't think we will see King Harald and Queen Sonja it seems to be likely CP Haakon and CP Mette Martit will attend, it would be a good opportunity to loan the Empress Josephine Emerald or Queen Josephine´s Diamond Tiara.

The emeralds has been worn at the three latest British coronations so it'd be a shame to break that tradition.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by JR76

The emeralds has been worn at the three latest British coronations so it'd be a shame to break that tradition.

Somehow i guess it is unlikly that they will be worn at a fourth coronation.
Even if Queen Sonja would offer them to MM i can see her choosing some different. Perhaps Queen Maud's diamond tiara or the pearl tiara in the full setting

[W.Y.CII]

The thing is Mette-Marit has avoided big head pieces (both tiaras and hats) due to her health problem (IIRC it's chronic headache/back or neck issue). I've prepared myself to see her in her daisy bandeau or the amethyst tiara, if we're lucky we might see the smaller setting of Maud's pearl tiara or the Vifte, but as much as I want to see it, I really don't think she'll wear any larger pieces like Maud's diamond tiara or Josephine's emerald tiara. (Personally I really hope she would continue the tradition though.)

[JGio]

Originally Posted by W.Y.CII

The thing is Mette-Marit has avoided big head pieces (both tiaras and hats) due to her health problem (IIRC it's chronic headache/back or neck issue). I've prepared myself to see her in her daisy bandeau or the amethyst tiara, if we're lucky we might see the smaller setting of Maud's pearl tiara or the Vifte, but as much as I want to see it, I really don't think she'll wear any larger pieces like Maud's diamond tiara or Josephine's emerald tiara. (Personally I really hope she would continue the tradition though.)

I suspect we’re going to witness again that picture of Marie-Chantal in her humongous Queen Sophie’s Diamond Tiara talking to Mette-Marit in her almost-invisible diamond headband. So unfair.

[pkl]

Originally Posted by W.Y.CII

The thing is Mette-Marit has avoided big head pieces (both tiaras and hats) due to her health problem (IIRC it's chronic headache/back or neck issue). I've prepared myself to see her in her daisy bandeau or the amethyst tiara, if we're lucky we might see the smaller setting of Maud's pearl tiara or the Vifte, but as much as I want to see it, I really don't think she'll wear any larger pieces like Maud's diamond tiara or Josephine's emerald tiara. (Personally I really hope she would continue the tradition though.)

She had "headache / back issues" like 15 years ago, not now. The ONLY reason she does not wear any big tiaras is she does not have access to them, yet. The big tiaras are reserved for Queen Sonja. The other ones have been on lifetime loans to Astrid / Ragnhild. Erling Lorentzen passed away in 2021, so the diamond tiara was not available for Mette-Marit before. In August it is 30 years since it was used, and I'll bet we will see it reappear this year for the joint 50th gala in Norway. So I hope to see her loan the emerald tiara for the coronation or surprise us with the diamond tiara.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by pkl

She had "headache / back issues" like 15 years ago, not now. The ONLY reason she does not wear any big tiaras is she does not have access to them, yet. The big tiaras are reserved for Queen Sonja. The other ones have been on lifetime loans to Astrid / Ragnhild. Erling Lorentzen passed away in 2021, so the diamond tiara was not available for Mette-Marit before. In August it is 30 years since it was used, and I'll bet we will see it reappear this year for the joint 50th gala in Norway. So I hope to see her loan the emerald tiara for the coronation or surprise us with the diamond tiara.

So you think the Jewels given to Princess Ragnhild as lifetime loans where only given back after the death of Erling Lorentzen and not earlier?

[pkl]

Originally Posted by Stefan

So you think the Jewels given to Princess Ragnhild as lifetime loans where only given back after the death of Erling Lorentzen and not earlier?

He retained the "ownership" of the jewels untill his death. But most of her "lifetime loan" jewels were stored at the palace always for security matters. But this is another topic than the coronation. I just wanted to say the Crown Princess do not have access to bigger jewels, and therefore don't wear them. As in Sweden, the most important tiaras are for the Queen / first lady. But it would be nice to follow up the tradition for the coronation with wearing the emerald tiara and parure.

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by Mary-Rose

At the moment it looks like monarchs are invited too, but I don't think we will see King Harald and Queen Sonja it seems to be likely CP Haakon and CP Mette Martit will attend, it would be a good opportunity to loan the Empress Josephine Emerald or Queen Josephine´s Diamond Tiara. If reigning monarchs actually attend the coronation it seems to be likely King Felipe and Queen Letizia attend. Queen Letizia and the Fleur de Lys a safe bet. Queen Mathilde and 9 provinces Tiara also pretty sure. Maxima could wear the full setting of the Stuart again or the Sapphire Tiara. I hope Queen Margrethe will be able to attend the Coronation If not, we may see CP Mary with Ruby Parure but I hope Queen Margrethe will loan her the Pearl Poire- i know very unlikely.

It will be very interesting to see the Royal Guest list and details over the coming months!

[wymanda]

GREAT BRITAIN
HM The Queen - State Diadem, Coronation Necklace & Earrings
Princess Royal - Girls of Great Britain Tiara
Princess of Wales - Vladimir Tiara with Pearls, Queen Alexandra's Wedding Necklace & Earings
Countess of Wessex (hopefully Duchess of Edinburgh by then) - Aquamarine Necklace Tiara with Her Late Majesty's "Best Diamonds"
Princess Beatrice - Queen Mary's Fringe Tiara
Princess Eugenie - Greville Emerald Tiara
Lady Louise - Strathmore Rose Tiara
Zara Phillips - Princess Andrew's Meander Tiara
Lady Sarah Chatto - Snowdon Tiara

[muriel]

Originally Posted by wymanda

GREAT BRITAIN
HM The Queen - State Diadem, Coronation Necklace & Earrings
Princess Royal - Girls of Great Britain Tiara
Princess of Wales - Vladimir Tiara with Pearls, Queen Alexandra's Wedding Necklace & Earings
Countess of Wessex (hopefully Duchess of Edinburgh by then) - Aquamarine Necklace Tiara with Her Late Majesty's "Best Diamonds"
Princess Beatrice - Queen Mary's Fringe Tiara
Princess Eugenie - Greville Emerald Tiara
Lady Louise - Strathmore Rose Tiara
Zara Phillips - Princess Andrew's Meander Tiara
Lady Sarah Chatto - Snowdon Tiara

That is certainly an impressive list.

Some comments:

> If the GDVladamir tiara is to be reused in a hurry, I would quite like the Queen to be the one to use it at some stage.

> For the Coronation, it would be quite nice to see the Princess of Wales use the Queen Mary Fringe.

> Sophie could probably wear her wedding tiara, with a diamond necklace lent to her from the royal vaults. I think the next wearer of the South African "best diamonds" necklace should probably be the Princess of Wales.

> Beatrice and Eugenie could probably choose from the Halo Scroll tiara, the QM Lozenge tiara or the Strathmore Rose. I would like to see the Queen use the Greville emerald tiara at some stage.

> Louise could use one of her mother's aquamarine tiaras.

> Anne would do justice to her mother's GGB&I tiara, but if it were to be the case, I hope it is a loan and the tiara remains with the main line.

[An Ard Ri]

I really hope that the Princess of Wales wearing a different tiara to the Coronation other than the Lover Knot (as beautiful as it is) .