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Old 01-24-2023, 12:04 PM
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That looks very much like the Strathmore to me. It's entirely possible that the bride was offered a selection by QE2 and chose this one. I really hope somebody wears it at the coronation so we have a good view of it.

Why should Queen Elizabeth have loaned a tiara to someone like Lady Tatiana to whom she herself was not very closely related. As far as i recall she has never done that before.

And as long as we don't have better pics from Lady Tatiana on her Wedding Day where the tiara can be better seen we can speculate long.
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Old 01-24-2023, 12:40 PM
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Why should Queen Elizabeth have loaned a tiara to someone like Lady Tatiana to whom she herself was not very closely related. As far as i recall she has never done that before.

And as long as we don't have better pics from Lady Tatiana on her Wedding Day where the tiara can be better seen we can speculate long.
Tatiana's grandfather was Prince Philip's cousin and the best man at HMQ & Philip's wedding. The families have remained friendly so if there was no Mountbatten tiara for Tatiana to wear, it's seems entirely possible that HMQ would have loaned her one.
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Old 01-24-2023, 01:22 PM
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That looks very much like the Strathmore to me. It's entirely possible that the bride was offered a selection by QE2 and chose this one. I really hope somebody wears it at the coronation so we have a good view of it.
I also agree that the tiara looks like the Strathmore Rose Tiara.
The last picture of the bride shows more of the tiara under her veil than the other wedding pictures.
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Old 01-24-2023, 02:51 PM
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If dreams do come true then we'll get to see the PoW in the Girls of Great Britain and Ireland. However, I suspect it's far more likely that we'll see her in the Cambridge Lovers Knot. And I really believe we'll see Beatrice, Eugenie, Zara, and Gabriella all in their wedding tiaras which I loved so I'm excited about. If Sarah Ferguson is invited I fully expect her to wear the York Tiara. I don't expect to see the Sussexes there so I 100% believe that the beautiful Queen Mary's bandeau is well and truly locked away in the vaults for the next several decades. This is such a shame because it's a gorgeous and historic piece that deserves to be seen. I expect to see Princess Anne in the Festoon which is a beautiful piece but I'd really love to see her wear something large, sparkly, and new to her. As for Sophie, I really, really want to see something new to her and gorgeous. Maybe the Teck Crescent or, if it still exists somewhere deep in the vaults, the Boucheron Loop. Perhaps even the Diamond Lozenge. I'd really love to see Louise in either the Lotus Flower or the Halo or even the Cartier Bracelet Bandeau. Preferably the Halo. Since we know that Camilla's children will be present, I fully expect Laura to wear the Cubitt and I have to say this is a stunning tiara. As a February baby and a massive fan of amethysts I'd love nothing more than for there to be a beautiful amethyst tiara lying around the vaults somewhere that could we wheeled out and shock us all but I know better than to expect that to happen. And while I know it's highly unlikely, I'd dearly love to see the Fife Tiara worn. Since it's now in the possession of the nation it might, just maybe, be possible to bring it out for the coronation, might be a beautiful possibility for Lady Sarah since the stunning Poltimore is no longer available.
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Old 01-24-2023, 03:09 PM
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If i recall it right the british royal ladies wore diamond or diamond and pearl tiaras at the coronations in 1937 and 1953 so i guess that they will do the same and we will not get to see tiaras with coloured stones on them.
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Old 01-24-2023, 03:34 PM
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If i recall it right the british royal ladies wore diamond or diamond and pearl tiaras at the coronations in 1937 and 1953 so i guess that they will do the same and we will not get to see tiaras with coloured stones on them.
If that's the case then Eugenie will have to wear something different than the tiara she wore at her wedding. If the Strathmore Rose still exists, this could be an option for her.

I expect that we'll see Louise in a smaller tiara since she's just 18 - the Cartier Halo wouldn't surprise me for her.

And Lady Sarah Chatto could borrow the Lotus Flower, which would be rather nice since her mother also wore it long ago.

Presuming a diamond or diamond & pearl tiara edict for the coronation would also rule out the aquamarine tiara for Sophie. She's the one I'd hope gets a new, really nice piece from the vault, even if only for this one event.
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Old 01-24-2023, 03:54 PM
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Presuming a diamond or diamond & pearl tiara edict for the coronation would also rule out the aquamarine tiara for Sophie. She's the one I'd hope gets a new, really nice piece from the vault, even if only for this one event.

If it must be diamonds/pearls, then Sophie has her wedding antlers (sadly) so will probably not get an upgrade. Trotting out the mysterious double meander wouldn't be a tragedy, but I think it's unlikely we ever see it again (more sadly).
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Old 01-24-2023, 06:19 PM
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If i recall it right the british royal ladies wore diamond or diamond and pearl tiaras at the coronations in 1937 and 1953 so i guess that they will do the same and we will not get to see tiaras with coloured stones on them.


Wasn’t the Princess Mary, The Countess of Harewood wearing her big sapphires both times? Whatever, if true, Eugenie needs another tiara.
However, Sophie’s aquas are so pale that I think they won’t be a problem. At least not a problem because of the color, but more because both tiaras are inadequate for a senior Princess in her late fifties.
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Old 01-24-2023, 06:33 PM
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Tatiana's grandfather was Prince Philip's cousin and the best man at HMQ & Philip's wedding. The families have remained friendly so if there was no Mountbatten tiara for Tatiana to wear, it's seems entirely possible that HMQ would have loaned her one.
David Mountbatten and Philip were once close but David apparently exploited his position after the wedding (the precise details are not very clear), fell out of favor and never regained it. Furthermore it doesn't make that much sense for the Queen to offer her mother's tiara to the Mountbattens, when there was no love lost by anybody there, ever.

Who represents the Mountbattens at the Coronation and what they'll wear should be interesting. It would be so nice if Lady Pamela attends.
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Old 01-24-2023, 06:57 PM
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If i recall it right the british royal ladies wore diamond or diamond and pearl tiaras at the coronations in 1937 and 1953 so i guess that they will do the same and we will not get to see tiaras with coloured stones on them.
In 1937 the Princess Royal wore the Harewood Diamond and Sapphire Parure, Princess Maud Countess of Southesk wore Queen Alexandra’s Amethyst Parure and Princess Marie Louise wore the Cartier Indian Tiara - so if there is a rule or reccomendation of no coloured stones, it can’t be a very hard one
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Old 01-25-2023, 03:56 AM
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In 1937 the Princess Royal wore the Harewood Diamond and Sapphire Parure, Princess Maud Countess of Southesk wore Queen Alexandra’s Amethyst Parure and Princess Marie Louise wore the Cartier Indian Tiara - so if there is a rule or reccomendation of no coloured stones, it can’t be a very hard one

Ok than i remebered it wrong. I also did not mean that it was really arule.
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Old 01-25-2023, 06:41 AM
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David Mountbatten and Philip were once close but David apparently exploited his position after the wedding (the precise details are not very clear), fell out of favor and never regained it. Furthermore it doesn't make that much sense for the Queen to offer her mother's tiara to the Mountbattens, when there was no love lost by anybody there, ever.
It's debatable whether any ill-feeling extended to David's sons, who have appeared on the Buckingham Palace balcony as adults and the younger son is very close friends with Prince Edward. I don't think HMQ was petty enough to deny a bride a particular tiara due to some historical family fall-out.
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Old 01-25-2023, 07:48 PM
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It's debatable whether any ill-feeling extended to David's sons, who have appeared on the Buckingham Palace balcony as adults and the younger son is very close friends with Prince Edward. I don't think HMQ was petty enough to deny a bride a particular tiara due to some historical family fall-out.
And I can't think of a single Mountbatten Elizabeth the Queen Mother was particularly chummy with, ever. It's not a matter of pettiness but I don't think her mother's tiara would be the first one the Queen would have proffered to them (the Mountbattens were equally aware of the dislike), especially as she had so many available.
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Old 01-25-2023, 08:05 PM
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And I can't think of a single Mountbatten Elizabeth the Queen Mother was particularly chummy with, ever. It's not a matter of pettiness but I don't think her mother's tiara would be the first one the Queen would have proffered to them (the Mountbattens were equally aware of the dislike), especially as she had so many available.
What's the most recent photo out there of a member of the BRF wearing it? From the 1920's? The 1930's maybe?

I would hazard a guess that the then Duchess of York, who never expected to become Queen when she got married, happily wore a very au courant bandeau as a young royal bride. But when she was soon upgraded to Queen Consort, and had a vault of splendid jewels at her disposal, the very girlish Strathmore Rose tiara was swiftly banished to the bottom of the chest.

Perhaps QEII was happy to lend a young bride a very young styled wedding tiara that no one in her immediate family had ever fancied, and which she had never worn herself, instead of a more significant piece.

Although I would argue that it would be well suited for Louise for the coronation, as it does have a second frame to be worn in the traditional fashion and she is a lovely young girl who would do it justice.
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Old 01-26-2023, 08:44 AM
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What's the most recent photo out there of a member of the BRF wearing it? From the 1920's? The 1930's maybe?

The only member of the british RF who has worn it was Queen Elizabeth. And she wore it a few times after her husband became King in the 1930's.
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My guess if Queen Sofia attends with Leonor,Princess of Asturias its will be the Fleur de lys on Queen Sofia and the Prussian Tiara on the Princess!

If Infanta Elena represents Spain it will be the Marichalar Meander Tiara or the Prussian Tiara.
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The only member of the british RF who has worn it was Queen Elizabeth. And she wore it a few times after her husband became King in the 1930's.
I just don't think there was any overly sentimental attachment to the Strathmore Rose on HLM's part to where she would refuse to discretely loan it out to a young relative. Aside from the well known photo session of Queen Elizabeth in the tiara, I've only seen one other photo of her wearing it post wedding. At a time when diamonds were still worn for everyday dinner at BP, it doesn't seem to have particularly been a favorite of hers, nor was it used by anyone else after her (that we know of).

It's also highly likely that the Strathmore Rose was originally the tiara of Baroness Newborough and not something specially designed for the Earl of Strathmore for his daughter's wedding day. It also wasn't necessarily the bandeau style itself that Queen Elizabeth didn't care for either, as there are photos of her wearing the Lotus like that as well.

We also know that she didn't have any issues wearing jewels worn first by someone else since her firm favorites seemed to come from the Greville collection. I'm sure we'll see a few pieces from there at the coronation, especially if Eugenie wears her wedding tiara, which would be nice.
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I just don't think there was any overly sentimental attachment to the Strathmore Rose on HLM's part to where she would refuse to discretely loan it out to a young relative. Aside from the well known photo session of Queen Elizabeth in the tiara, I've only seen one other photo of her wearing it post wedding. At a time when diamonds were still worn for everyday dinner at BP, it doesn't seem to have particularly been a favorite of hers, nor was it used by anyone else after her (that we know of).

It's also highly likely that the Strathmore Rose was originally the tiara of Baroness Newborough and not something specially designed for the Earl of Strathmore for his daughter's wedding day. It also wasn't necessarily the bandeau style itself that Queen Elizabeth didn't care for either, as there are photos of her wearing the Lotus like that as well.

We also know that she didn't have any issues wearing jewels worn first by someone else since her firm favorites seemed to come from the Greville collection. I'm sure we'll see a few pieces from there at the coronation, especially if Eugenie wears her wedding tiara, which would be nice.
I love the Strathmore rose tiara, it is just to pretty.
Had I been in the position of marrying into the BRF, that tiara would have been my first choice.
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Old 01-26-2023, 10:17 AM
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I love the Strathmore rose tiara, it is just to pretty.
Had I been in the position of marrying into the BRF, that tiara would have been my first choice.
Me too and I'd love to see Lady Louise wearing it.
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I also agree that Lady Louise should wear the Strathmore Rose Tiara.
It is wonderful that the Strathmore Rose Tiara is getting so much written attention!
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