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Old 10-20-2013, 01:06 PM
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The jewelry could go to other future kid but it would be taxed with each generation. That's what happened to Margaret's jewelry when she died David and Sarah had to pay taxes on the estate so the sold most of jewels to pay the tax bill since they didn't really need tiaras.

The sovereign to sovereign transfer is tax free so it makes sense to keep the bulk of family jewels as property of sovereign and then pass to the next sovereign. Of course, jewels can be loaned out where need sort like a jewelry library.
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:30 PM
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I think Diana would have left them to the Queen if that was her desire. Obviously it was not and she left them to her two sons to divide as they saw fit.

These are personal items and will become the property of William and Harry's wives unless their husbands retain ownership and allow their wives the use of them as is the case with Princess Mary of Denmark and the famous Ruby Parure.

Either way it seems that the collection will be halved and, looking to the future, William's wife will have access or a vast amount of jewellery that will not be available to Harry's wife. How that impacts on the division of the collection is anyone's guess.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:03 AM
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I don't think Kate's sapphire earrings are diana's, for one there are more smaller diamonds on diana's earrings than on kate's that surround the sapphire. Second, the sapphire is different, on diana's the sapphire is smooth like a cabochon and on Kate's you can tell it's faceted. It may be a sapphire from Diana's collection, because she has so many, but I don't believe they are from this particular set of sapphire earrings.
I agree with you, I do not believe they are the same earrings. I suspect there will be other similar earrings in the royal vaults that Catherine was probably given. Alternatively, they could have been acquired around the time of the wedding either by William or Charles for Catherine's use.
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:36 PM
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I don't think Kate's sapphire earrings are diana's, for one there are more smaller diamonds on diana's earrings than on kate's that surround the sapphire. Second, the sapphire is different, on diana's the sapphire is smooth like a cabochon and on Kate's you can tell it's faceted. It may be a sapphire from Diana's collection, because she has so many, but I don't believe they are from this particular set of sapphire earrings.
Diana had several different sapphire/diamond sets of earrings which differed both in circumference and cut of the sapphire and number of diamonds in the surround. I can think of at least four pairs, including one that had a sapphire surrounded by diamonds on the lobe with a nearly identical dangle below. It's hard to tell just which ones, if any, are now worn by Catherine.
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:28 PM
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^ Right. That's why I said I don't think they were from that specific pair of earrings that someone had suggested. Theres a lot of speculation that they came from "Diana's favorite pair" of sapphire earrings (there's a picture to go with that claim) and it was from that specific pair that I didn't think they came from. Diana had a lot of sapphire jewelry that she received as weddings gifts and some of those she re-set or never wore at all. We can only assume maybe Kate's sapphires came from some of those pieces...but as for "Diana's favorite pair" of earrings I don't believe there is any way they came from there, the sapphire stones are not even the same size or shape.
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I hope we see Catherine with a tiara very soon, I'm really waiting for it.. (and hopefully it will not be that scroll tiara, I don't like it very much).

I think that Harry's wife, who ever it will be, gets a ring of Diana too. I don't know if she had any important rings?
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What has happened to Diana's wish that her jewellery be passed on for her sons' wives?

Has the Queen been given all the jewellery instead?

I gather Catherine has not worn a tiara yet?
Diana had a small collection of personal jewels, consisting of her wedding gifts and pieces bought by Charles, that passed to William and Harry. The rest of her jewels belonged to The Queen and returned to her.

Catherine was reportedly offered the Lover's Knot Tiara for her wedding day and declined it. I doubt we'll see her wearing the royal pieces Diana used anytime soon.
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I hope we see Catherine with a tiara very soon, I'm really waiting for it.. (and hopefully it will not be that scroll tiara, I don't like it very much).

I think that Harry's wife, who ever it will be, gets a ring of Diana too. I don't know if she had any important rings?
I would think Catherine will stick with the Scroll Tiara for now. She is not the wife of the heir yet and probably will not be attending state dinners often at this point.

I don't know how many rings Diana really had that were worthy engagement pieces, other than her own. Probably none as she wasn't a big jewelry person in the first place.
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Old 10-25-2013, 03:45 AM
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I am looking forward to the first Gala event Catherine attends. The Halo Scroll will look fabulous against her dark hair, an effect we were denied at the wedding because of the heavy white of the veil seemed to blur the detail of the tiara.

Here's hoping for a brilliant gown and a fabulous up do that perfectly showcases a very beautiful tiara and her wedding earrings just as the icing on the cake.
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I am looking forward to the first Gala event Catherine attends. The Halo Scroll will look fabulous against her dark hair, an effect we were denied at the wedding because of the heavy white of the veil seemed to blur the detail of the tiara.
Here's hoping for a brilliant gown and a fabulous up do that perfectly showcases a very beautiful tiara and her wedding earrings just as the icing on the cake.
I agree. The Halo Scroll is a small but very beautiful tiara. It didn't shine at the wedding because it looked too small for the veil. But with no veil, it will look great contrasting with her dark hair.

I wouldn't go for a very elaborate updo though. Hair tied, obviously, but something simple, to make the tiara stand out, otherwise, the wedding problem happens again.
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Old 10-25-2013, 09:10 PM
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Unfortunately, I wouldn't look for anything anytime soon.
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:14 AM
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I think Diana would have left them to the Queen if that was her desire. Obviously it was not and she left them to her two sons to divide as they saw fit.

These are personal items and will become the property of William and Harry's wives unless their husbands retain ownership and allow their wives the use of them as is the case with Princess Mary of Denmark and the famous Ruby Parure.

Either way it seems that the collection will be halved and, looking to the future, William's wife will have access or a vast amount of jewellery that will not be available to Harry's wife. How that impacts on the division of the collection is anyone's guess.
I suppose that Diana left her property to her sons, assuming that she would outlive her mother-in-law!
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:17 AM
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I agree. The Halo Scroll is a small but very beautiful tiara. It didn't shine at the wedding because it looked too small for the veil. But with no veil, it will look great contrasting with her dark hair.

I wouldn't go for a very elaborate updo though. Hair tied, obviously, but something simple, to make the tiara stand out, otherwise, the wedding problem happens again.
Kate has occasionally been seen with her hair swept into a full bun at the nape of her neck - and very lovely it looked too. That style would suit a tiara when she needs to wear one. I just hope she doesn't wear it with her hair loose - it just gets in the way and starts to look messy, IMHO.
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:25 AM
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Diana's Jewels: Potential Division Between William and Harry

Given that we are now starting to see some of Diana's jewels on her daughters-in-law, we could use this thread to discuss how we would like to see the jewellery divided.
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:26 AM
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Might I request that the Mods to move conversations elsewhere (Duchess of Sussex jewellery thread) here please, thank you
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:31 AM
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My suggestions for splitting:

CATHERINE
Sapphire choker
Saudi sapphire parure

MEGHAN
Emerald and diamond earrings and matching bracelet
Pearl and diamond pendant earrings
Omani sapphire suite
Aquamarines
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Old 10-20-2018, 04:19 AM
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This article is riddled with factual inaccuracies, but here goes,nevertheless.....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...dly-shown.html
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Old 10-20-2018, 04:28 AM
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This should be a good thread. And needed for sure. I would think the delicate smaller pieces would suit Meghans build rather than anything big and chunky. JMHO.
There are lots of very nice pieces for both Kate and Meghan.
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Have we done a complete list of what we know Diana has in her collection? Not just what she's worn, but things that should be in her collection. Back in those days, gifts received on foreign visits are hers to keep.
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Old 10-20-2018, 05:21 AM
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Vogue had an article on some of her jewellery last year.

https://www.vogue.com.au/fashion/acc...6003b4ca?pos=3

The chokers were beautiful, especially the pearl ones but they are very dated now, IMO. I can't see either Kate or Meghan wearing them, really. I wonder whether they have been broken up for other more modern pieces.
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