Pavlos and Marie-Chantal and Family Current Events Part 9: January 2022 -


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As if MC is going to give up a London or NY luxury townhouse living in the heart of either city and all that brings to move to Greece. Not going to happen. At most they'll buy a holiday home (they can well afford it) and fit visits in between their annual Gstaad and Bahamas breaks and weekends in the Cotswolds or Hamptons home they already have.
 
It would be good for Pavlos and Marie-Chantal to move to Greece, but unfortunately it is unlikely.
Perhaps they decide to stay longer in Greece and buy a house there, so that Pavlos can spend more time with his mother.
 
Following Konstantinos' passing one could guess that Pavlos would either get more involved or not. Thing is, he has waited too long to get seriously involved with Greece and most people would much prefer Nikolaos to be Head of the House, yes yes, he has no children, but Constantino-Alexios has not precisely been raised as a prince, he's a "normal" boy, it's never too late ofc.

Regardless of what they choose to do, all the best to them all, Pavlos and Marie-Chantal (who gets way too much hate) have a beautiful, genuinely united family.
 
I'd just add - I don't hate MC- my comment about her not letting that happen are because if the past few days have shown us anything its that while there is a group of people who hold to the notion of monarchy in Greece the wider country and government are against it. MC has more sense than to allow her family to get involved beyond the titles and visits that bring them happiness but no expectations. It is a drama they don't need. I can see Pavlos having a role where he represents the monarchy of the past without any notion of it having a future again. If they truly wanted to have a role in Greece they should have begun to do so much earlier like Nikolaos, MC is the one without as much emotional connection so can make the most rational decision and the most rational decision is to keep their very comfortable lives elsewhere and visit for a few times a year when those who support monarchy can come out and support them and everyone can go back to their normal lives after.
 
And I'll add that I wasn't referring to you. All good.
I just think that Marie-Chantal is generally looked down upon just because Old Man Miller is a billionaire. She "the rich spoiled kid" is not the one consort unable to move the muscles in her face due to an excessive amount of Botox, and she seems to defend her family's unity like a tigress. I may also add that her clothing line for children is wonderful.
 
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Blog Real said:
It would be good for Pavlos and Marie-Chantal to move to Greece, but unfortunately it is unlikely.
Perhaps they decide to stay longer in Greece and buy a house there, so that Pavlos can spend more time with his mother.
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People, and that is the nature of chit-chat and gossip, always say this and that as if they are personally involved... Perhaps they move, perhaps not. If they do, this will take a while. It is not impossible, so let´s wait and see!
I´d rather expect, in the long run, for The Queen to move to Denmark to her elder sister (Benedikte is often there as well, so the 3 of them could be united again at the last leg of their lives), similar to the Empress Mother of Russia, who stayed in exile in Copenhagen to spend time with her danish family and meet sister Queen Alexandra there.
 
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W.Y.CII said:
I know the Greek government is far from friendly to the family but how much time and effort did he actually spend in Greece? It's not that the family's forbidden to enter the country now, Nikolaos has done many things in Greece (charity, socializing, cultural related stuff, etc.) and I don't see the Greek government has a say about that? OTOH so far I don't see Pavlos is really interested in doing that (and there's nothing wrong with that).
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It’s not about the government not allowing them to come back because obviously they have been all to stay there or come back to visit. Pavlos was born in Greece. Nikolaos has time to do all the charity and all that because he doesn’t have children and a jet set social life, and the Greek government don’t have much to say about because Nikolaos is discreet, his movements don’t receive major publicity (I’m not saying that his activities aren’t talked about on social media and all, but that it’s not massive or seen with anything but goodwill) and he won’t be passing on those traditions to heirs of his so he’s no threat.

I think it’s difficult to families or individuals from certain deposed dynasties to do certain things in general because of lack of structure and having to also accept and understand that there’s a balance and fine line.
 
Today instead I re-evaluated Marie-Chantal. She’s still not my cup of tea, but from her I expected much less. I loved that she totally left the spotlight to Queen Anne-Marie when accompanying her to the church, waving a discreet hand so that all the attention was for her mother-in-law. She even genuinely smiled a few times, hearing the crowd cheering their arrival. I also loved that, as she and A-M made those few steps to the Church, MC entered right away (she didn’t even kiss Pavlos) with her elder son, leaving Pavlos and Anne-Marie to be celebrated by the public. After a few meters, she turned back out of curiosity and smiled again. I thought it was so motherly and cute, I saw a very loving side of her.
She also dressed not to outshine anyone, very elegant but simple at the same time.

But again, I don’t expect her to move to Greece.
 
Has anyone spotted MC's parents Robert and Chantal Miller in Athens?

They are pretty much regulars on the Royal Greek scene for family events. I would be surprised if they didn't attend Constantine's funeral.
 
Pia Miller was there but I did not see MC's parents. They must be of an advanced age as well by now.
 
Moonmaiden23 said:
Has anyone spotted MC's parents Robert and Chantal Miller in Athens?
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You could certainly see them in the faces of MC's children! Her parents' genes are strong -- each of those children resembles the maternal grandparents more than anyone on Pavlos' side.
 
:previous: Totally! Pavlos's boys have even adopted Robert Miller's longish hair with the center part!;)
 
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:previous: Totally! Pavlos's boys have even adopted Robert Miller's longish hair with the center part!;)
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True! I thought the oldest boy looked great with his short haircut and glasses today -- he looked more "young banker" than "young playboy."

They all bear a very strong resemblance to Marie-Chantal's mother, as do MC and her sisters.
 
Of the 5 children I believe Achilleas Andreas has the most resemblance to his fathers side of the family.
 
Just out of interest, does Pavlos and MC have a holiday home in Greece?
 
Adda said:
Following Konstantinos' passing one could guess that Pavlos would either get more involved or not. Thing is, he has waited too long to get seriously involved with Greece and most people would much prefer Nikolaos to be Head of the House, yes yes, he has no children, but Constantino-Alexios has not precisely been raised as a prince, he's a "normal" boy, it's never too late ofc.
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I am also among those who would wish to see Nikolaos as head of the house. His greek is better, his wife more liikeable, and he looks more royal than a simple jet-setter..
MC is a waste of time
 
tamta said:
I am also among those who would wish to see Nikolaos as head of the house. His greek is better, his wife more liikeable, and he looks more royal than a simple jet-setter..

MC is a waste of time
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I can say that before his father's passing and his funeral i had an idea of Pavlos as an Instagram / Disney / Hollywood prince.
But my opinion radically changed as he behaviored in excellent way as a real Head of family and of the Greek Royal House. If royalty existed in Greece he would be a good and capable King. But royalty is abolished.
So in the actual situation what can he offer? Impeccable behavior Yes, and then? Did he ever show that he tries to offer something in the country ? No. He might have secret important actions, but nothing is known by the people. He is immensely rich, but nothing goes to the Greek people. I'm not talking about money only, but also about help actions, charity foundations or other things. Nothing. Out of their participation in royal events ...white tie and tiara.. he is completely absent from any action which could associate him to our country.
Also Marie-Chantal: despite her dignity, what could she offer? She is CPrincess now for more than 25 years, what was her presence or added value to her supposed 2nd homeland? Nothing. Only a shop with kids clothes.
Also I found very strange her behavior at the Metropolis when she arrived escorting Queen Anne-Marie. Instead if staying and receiving her husband's official greeting (at this moment he was the Head of the royal House greeting his highest guest: the widowed Queen.
And MC did not stay and ran inside, obliging him to turn and look for her. I don't know the reason, but it was not appropriate.
The next member: Konstantinos-Alexios. No idea, but if he has been more influenced by his mother side...zero.
On the other side Nicolaos. Warm, human, active in actions related to the country, with personal involvement, completely part of the Greek environment. With an extremely approachable and active wife, which does not lose any occasion to praise Greece and declare her love for.

So for me no doubt : Nicolaos.

But... no fuss: Dynastic rules are strict especially for succession matters and.....Royalty is abolished In Greece.
 
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I think MC and Pavlos are extremely realistic and have no interest in Greece or the Greek people, and why should they? Also, Pavlos isn't rich, his wife is. And she has no reason to waste her money on a country and people who don't like her and don't want her there anyway. Again, I think she and he are more than happy building their own family life and they seem very successful with that. As we know, the reason they go to high profile royal events is because they are extremely closely related to the thrones of Spain and Denmark. Sure, MC may even love playing royal dress up once or twice a year. That's fine. She doesn't have to kiss any Greek political asses and doesn't. Good for her I say. That's the beauty of their situation. They can do whatever they want and the ramblings and rumblings of anyone else about their "appropriateness" doesn't change the fact that they are rich and their children will be and they don't have to listen to anyone about how they "should" live their lives.
 
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I think MC and Pavlos are extremely realistic and have no interest in Greece or the Greek people, and why should they? Also, Pavlos isn't rich, his wife is. And she has no reason to waste her money on a country and people who don't like her and don't want her there anyway. Again, I think she and he are more happy building their own family life and they seem very successful with that. As we know, the reason they go to high profile royal events is because they are extremely closely related to the thrones of Spain and Denmark. Sure, MC may even love playing royal dress up once or twice a year. That's fine. She doesn't have to kiss any Greek asses and doesn't. Good for her I say. That's the beauty of their situation. They can do whatever they want and the ramblings and rumblings of anyone else about their "appropriateness" doesn't change the fact that they are rich and their children will be and they don't have to listen to anyone.
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I think we should reframe some points.
MC is immensely rich but I read that CP Pavlos through his own business is very successful too, maybe initially financed by his father in law, but since it is successful he should have earned good money also. King Konstantine also was not poor, since he managed to finance a high life and a 5 kids family for almost 50 years. All this does not make Pavlos starving and being obliged to begging from his wife.
I also precised that I'm not talking about them donating money but more taking actions. If they don't want they don't have to.. just we are making comparison between the 2 eldest brothers.
Also neither CP Pavlos nor CP MC have to kiss anyone's anything.. just that by hearing Pavlos homelie during his father's funeral he was talking about more actions for the country than they seem to do in reality.
I repeat they are free of their choice... but this cannot stop people of doing the comparison.
As for the young generation, I would really understand that they don't have anything to expect from Greece. They are immensely rich and citizens of the world, why they should choose Greece? But like a delicate gesture they could maybe avoid publicizing themselves in social media as ....Greece especially in commercial field.


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fandesacs2003 said:
But like a delicate gesture they could maybe avoid publicizing themselves in social media as ....Greece especially in commercial field.

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That's the thing. They really do not have to make any "delicate" gestures and it does not matter one single bit if anyone at all thinks they should do this or that. Their money allows them to not have to care what any of us thinks. If they want to use "of Greece" in anything they want there is absolutely nothing anyone can do except maybe keep them out of Greece again. But I don't think MC or maybe even their children would care in the least.
 
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That's the thing. They really do not have to make any "delicate" gestures and it does not matter one single bit if anyone at all thinks they should do this or that. Their money allows them to not have to care what any of us thinks. If they want to use "of Greece" in anything they want there is absolutely nothing anyone can do except maybe keep them out of Greece again. But I don't think MC or maybe even their children would care in the least.
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Yes they are very rich. But this does not mean that they should be fully indifferent abt other people's opinion. They are involved in commercial field, MC of course but also now MO, so to make their jobs run.. they are based on people.


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fandesacs2003 said:
Yes they are very rich. But this does not mean that they should be fully indifferent abt other people's opinion. They are involved in commercial field, MC of course but also now MO, so to make their jobs run.. they are based on people.


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I'm speaking only about in relation to Greece and their Greek titles. And using "of Greece" and not worrying what Greek monarchists or Greek politicians think is not hurting them in their careers or their happy family life.
 
tihkon2 said:
I'm speaking only about in relation to Greece and their Greek titles. And using "of Greece" and not worrying what Greek monarchists or Greek politicians think is not hurting them in their careers or their happy family life.
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I'm not talking about Greek politicians neither about Greek royalists. Just about Greek people, who might not appreciate seing them make use of their title... but otherwise being absent. By absent I don't mean physically of financially, just sentimentaly.

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I think they have even less reason to think about or care about the opinion of Greek people who aren't royalists.
 
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