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01-16-2023, 04:14 PM
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To Vima Magazine reports that Pavlos is thinking about moving to Greece. I'll believe it when I see it, that would be SHOCKING (in a good way)
https://www.tovima.gr/2023/01/16/soc...a-stin-athina/
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01-16-2023, 04:17 PM
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This would not surprise me a lot!
I knew the row was all gossip:
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01-16-2023, 04:20 PM
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As if MC is going to give up a London or NY luxury townhouse living in the heart of either city and all that brings to move to Greece. Not going to happen. At most they'll buy a holiday home (they can well afford it) and fit visits in between their annual Gstaad and Bahamas breaks and weekends in the Cotswolds or Hamptons home they already have.
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01-16-2023, 04:25 PM
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It would be good for Pavlos and Marie-Chantal to move to Greece, but unfortunately it is unlikely.
Perhaps they decide to stay longer in Greece and buy a house there, so that Pavlos can spend more time with his mother.
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01-16-2023, 04:25 PM
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Following Konstantinos' passing one could guess that Pavlos would either get more involved or not. Thing is, he has waited too long to get seriously involved with Greece and most people would much prefer Nikolaos to be Head of the House, yes yes, he has no children, but Constantino-Alexios has not precisely been raised as a prince, he's a "normal" boy, it's never too late ofc.
Regardless of what they choose to do, all the best to them all, Pavlos and Marie-Chantal (who gets way too much hate) have a beautiful, genuinely united family.
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01-16-2023, 04:33 PM
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I'd just add - I don't hate MC- my comment about her not letting that happen are because if the past few days have shown us anything its that while there is a group of people who hold to the notion of monarchy in Greece the wider country and government are against it. MC has more sense than to allow her family to get involved beyond the titles and visits that bring them happiness but no expectations. It is a drama they don't need. I can see Pavlos having a role where he represents the monarchy of the past without any notion of it having a future again. If they truly wanted to have a role in Greece they should have begun to do so much earlier like Nikolaos, MC is the one without as much emotional connection so can make the most rational decision and the most rational decision is to keep their very comfortable lives elsewhere and visit for a few times a year when those who support monarchy can come out and support them and everyone can go back to their normal lives after.
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01-16-2023, 04:41 PM
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And I'll add that I wasn't referring to you. All good.
I just think that Marie-Chantal is generally looked down upon just because Old Man Miller is a billionaire. She "the rich spoiled kid" is not the one consort unable to move the muscles in her face due to an excessive amount of Botox, and she seems to defend her family's unity like a tigress. I may also add that her clothing line for children is wonderful.
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01-16-2023, 04:51 PM
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It would be good for Pavlos and Marie-Chantal to move to Greece, but unfortunately it is unlikely.
Perhaps they decide to stay longer in Greece and buy a house there, so that Pavlos can spend more time with his mother.
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People, and that is the nature of chit-chat and gossip, always say this and that as if they are personally involved... Perhaps they move, perhaps not. If they do, this will take a while. It is not impossible, so let´s wait and see!
I´d rather expect, in the long run, for The Queen to move to Denmark to her elder sister (Benedikte is often there as well, so the 3 of them could be united again at the last leg of their lives), similar to the Empress Mother of Russia, who stayed in exile in Copenhagen to spend time with her danish family and meet sister Queen Alexandra there.
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01-16-2023, 04:57 PM
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I know the Greek government is far from friendly to the family but how much time and effort did he actually spend in Greece? It's not that the family's forbidden to enter the country now, Nikolaos has done many things in Greece (charity, socializing, cultural related stuff, etc.) and I don't see the Greek government has a say about that? OTOH so far I don't see Pavlos is really interested in doing that (and there's nothing wrong with that).
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It’s not about the government not allowing them to come back because obviously they have been all to stay there or come back to visit. Pavlos was born in Greece. Nikolaos has time to do all the charity and all that because he doesn’t have children and a jet set social life, and the Greek government don’t have much to say about because Nikolaos is discreet, his movements don’t receive major publicity (I’m not saying that his activities aren’t talked about on social media and all, but that it’s not massive or seen with anything but goodwill) and he won’t be passing on those traditions to heirs of his so he’s no threat.
I think it’s difficult to families or individuals from certain deposed dynasties to do certain things in general because of lack of structure and having to also accept and understand that there’s a balance and fine line.
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01-16-2023, 06:25 PM
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Today instead I re-evaluated Marie-Chantal. She’s still not my cup of tea, but from her I expected much less. I loved that she totally left the spotlight to Queen Anne-Marie when accompanying her to the church, waving a discreet hand so that all the attention was for her mother-in-law. She even genuinely smiled a few times, hearing the crowd cheering their arrival. I also loved that, as she and A-M made those few steps to the Church, MC entered right away (she didn’t even kiss Pavlos) with her elder son, leaving Pavlos and Anne-Marie to be celebrated by the public. After a few meters, she turned back out of curiosity and smiled again. I thought it was so motherly and cute, I saw a very loving side of her.
She also dressed not to outshine anyone, very elegant but simple at the same time.
But again, I don’t expect her to move to Greece.
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01-16-2023, 07:38 PM
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Has anyone spotted MC's parents Robert and Chantal Miller in Athens?
They are pretty much regulars on the Royal Greek scene for family events. I would be surprised if they didn't attend Constantine's funeral.
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01-16-2023, 07:51 PM
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Pia Miller was there but I did not see MC's parents. They must be of an advanced age as well by now.
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01-16-2023, 08:51 PM
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Has anyone spotted MC's parents Robert and Chantal Miller in Athens?
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You could certainly see them in the faces of MC's children! Her parents' genes are strong -- each of those children resembles the maternal grandparents more than anyone on Pavlos' side.
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01-16-2023, 08:57 PM
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 Totally! Pavlos's boys have even adopted Robert Miller's longish hair with the center part!
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01-16-2023, 09:15 PM
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 Totally! Pavlos's boys have even adopted Robert Miller's longish hair with the center part! 
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True! I thought the oldest boy looked great with his short haircut and glasses today -- he looked more "young banker" than "young playboy."
They all bear a very strong resemblance to Marie-Chantal's mother, as do MC and her sisters.
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01-17-2023, 06:34 AM
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Prince Pavlos wore his Father's Ring.
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01-17-2023, 07:09 AM
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Of the 5 children I believe Achilleas Andreas has the most resemblance to his fathers side of the family.
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01-19-2023, 12:42 PM
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According to ¡Hola!, citing close sources, among the couple's plans is not to move to Europe.
https://www.hola.com/actualidad/2023...udanza-grecia/
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01-19-2023, 02:21 PM
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Not surprising but a pity nonetheless.
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01-19-2023, 03:13 PM
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Just out of interest, does Pavlos and MC have a holiday home in Greece?
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