Maria-Olympia, Konstantinos, Achileas, Odysseas, Aristidis Events & News 2: 2022-

[CrownPrincessJava]

I think while Queen Anne-Marie is still alive, the nostalgia of the now defunct Greek Royal Family will continue. She is a Queen, her sister is a Queen and she is still closely related to most of current heads and heirs of European kingdoms.

Greece has been without a monarchy for 60 years, Pavlos clearly does not have a deep affection for the country and culture, like his brother, and it is expected his children are the same. At the time of Pavlos' demise, in many many many decades to come, the mystique of this non-reigning family will have been gone.

Pavlos and M-C know this, hence raised their children with this notion - it is very clear to see. Constantinos' hook-ups are no surprises at all - they move in a very different sphere to the most of us.

[Moonmaiden23]

A kiss on the prelate's ring is how some Catholics greet their bishops and cardinals. Perhaps young Tino got it confused?

[Adda]

Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

A kiss on the prelate's ring is how some Catholics greet their bishops and cardinals. Perhaps young Tino got it confused?

I saw Nikolaos do the exact same thing before his father's funeral...And Nikola has been living in Greece for more than a decade now.

[Nikolopoulus]

The Archbishop at King Constantine's funeral did not receive the family with the Gospels.
The Archbishop of Athens and all Greece is greeted by kissing his hand, but when he carries the Gospels in his hand and receives you at the door of the Cathedral, kiss the Gospel first, you do not kiss his hand and cross yourself.

And I believe that in the Catholic Church if the Archbishop has the Gospels or the Cross in his hand, you have to kiss it first. I think this is so too

[fandesacs2003]

Originally Posted by Nikolopoulus

, he knows little or nothing about the history of Greece, and he does not even know who is the first king of the dynasty...

I do not see a future Royal Head of House of the Hellenes

How do we know this? Did he do a declaration full of mistakes?

As for Mrs Delevigne, I don't care about her being 12 years older. The first lady of France is 16 years older than her husband, and there is no fuss at all.
Furthermore, if their relationship continues, I wish she would divorced quickly. Dating a married person Is not appropriate to this family's values and style.



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[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by Nikolopoulus

The Archbishop at King Constantine's funeral did not receive the family with the Gospels.
The Archbishop of Athens and all Greece is greeted by kissing his hand, but when he carries the Gospels in his hand and receives you at the door of the Cathedral, kiss the Gospel first, you do not kiss his hand and cross yourself.

And I believe that in the Catholic Church if the Archbishop has the Gospels or the Cross in his hand, you have to kiss it first. I think this is so too

Yes ..you are correct on both counts. Catholics are supposed to venerate the Cross first before anything else...at least that's what I do and what I have seen others do.

Maybe Tino, like many other young people his age, simply doesn't spend much time at church events and is not aware of religious protocol.

[Blog Real]

Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

How do we know this? Did he do a declaration full of mistakes?

As for Mrs Delevigne, I don't care about her being 12 years older. The first lady of France is 16 years older than her husband, and there is no fuss at all.
Furthermore, if their relationship continues, I wish she would divorced quickly. Dating a married person Is not appropriate to this family's values and style.



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The age difference doesn't bother me either. If they are dating, then she must be getting divorced.

[CyrilVladisla]

If Mrs. Delevigne is getting divorced, how long will the divorce take?

[hereditarytitles]

Originally Posted by Blog Real

The age difference doesn't bother me either. If they are dating, then she must be getting divorced.

According to some tabloids Poppy and James have separated since the beginning of last year. I found an article here. Looks like James also has been looking for another woman.
I don't have a problem with the age difference at all. Brigitte Macron, by the way, is even 22 or more years older than her husband. Unfortunately it had caused a big fuss at the time and her daughter had to speak out openly about the harassment and vile comments that her mother had to endure in France.

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-s...82256669507548

[Lipe]

I have been researching online, and Poppy and Olympia are friends , and acquaintance of family, she was at Prince Pavlos' 50th birthday party.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ac/43/4f/a...ad3d2a11f9.jpg
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/EW...6a32798fdce84d

[wartenberg7]

Originally Posted by Blog Real

I also expected Constantine Alexios to be dating a girl his age or closer to his age.
I have no problem that she is 14 years older than he is and that she is still legally married. But I am curious to know if she will have the approval of the royal family.

No problem she is married...?! Well, our standards seem to be at an all time low, I think. Besides, is adultery - going out with a still married person - not also a great sin in greek orthodoxy?!
The young woman would be a great girlfriend for the CPcss of Norway´s eldest son, too - they are literally all the same.

[wartenberg7]

Originally Posted by Lipe

I have been researching online, and Poppy and Olympia are friends , and acquaintance of family, she was at Prince Pavlos' 50th birthday party.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ac/43/4f/a...ad3d2a11f9.jpg
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/EW...6a32798fdce84d

Ah, I see! Olympia and her good-influence-friends...!

[wartenberg7]

Originally Posted by CrownPrincessJava

I think while Queen Anne-Marie is still alive, the nostalgia of the now defunct Greek Royal Family will continue. She is a Queen, her sister is a Queen and she is still closely related to most of current heads and heirs of European kingdoms.

Greece has been without a monarchy for 60 years, Pavlos clearly does not have a deep affection for the country and culture, like his brother, and it is expected his children are the same. At the time of Pavlos' demise, in many many many decades to come, the mystique of this non-reigning family will have been gone.

....without a monarchy since 50 years, not 60!

[Blog Real]

Originally Posted by wartenberg7

No problem she is married...?! Well, our standards seem to be at an all time low, I think. Besides, is adultery - going out with a still married person - not also a great sin in greek orthodoxy?!
The young woman would be a great girlfriend for the CPcss of Norway´s eldest son, too - they are literally all the same.

My point is that it's not such a big deal if she's separated, even though she's not yet divorced.
I think it would be worse if she was committing adultery, that is, cheating on her husband.

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by wartenberg7

Ah, I see! Olympia and her good-influence-friends...!

What exactly do you mean?

[Hans-Rickard]

The Greek Monarchy is long abolished and Pavlos children are raised with the prospect that they will be private working citizens all their lives while still using their titles whenever it suits them to get a limo, a business class seat on the plane, the most expensive hotel suites and a free ticket to the royal events hosted by their close relatives…

Constantine-Alexios is free to do whatever he wants in many ways as he is 1. Not expected to marry anytime soon, and 2. Not expected to marry someone of a certain rank, and 3. His future wife will not become a (real) Crown Princess

My problem with him is hardly that a 24 year old guy dates older or younger women… That’s what most heterosexual guys in his age does…

My problem with him (and his family in general) is that they never misses a chance to market themselves as Prince’s and Princess’ of Greece without showing the slightest of interest in Greece apart from visiting their grandparents and going on super luxury holidays with their jetset friends….. And they haven’t even bothered to properly learn the greek language….

No wonder why most of the greek people can’t see themselves in a future with this family as their royal family ! They are really nothing more than a british/american jetset-family with greek and danish roots…

The difference between them and Nikos and Tatiana who lives in Greece, works in Greece, speak greek, and shows a genuine and passionate interest in the greek people and the greek culture, couldn’t be bigger

[tihkon2]

I can see where they would enjoy the perks without giving a damn. Greece has treated their family like sh!t for decades up to and including the present day. So I really have no problem with Pavlos' family, meaning MC and their children, going to their very close relatives swanky royal get togethers and occasions and using their titles which hopefully annoys the Greek government. Realistically there will not a be a restoration of the monarchy and I think Pavlos' family realizes that and does not care. Good for them.

[Adda]

Originally Posted by Hans-Rickard

The difference between them and Nikos and Tatiana who lives in Greece, works in Greece, speak greek, and shows a genuine and passionate interest in the greek people and the greek culture, couldn’t be bigger

Absolutely, hence the tragedy that Nikola and Tatiana don't have kids.

The family, however, don't owe anything to the Greek people. At the same time, one should put the minimum effort. Marie-Chantal never learnt the language, fine, but was it so difficult to find a Greek nanny? Speaking from experience, Greek isn't impossibly difficult to learn, it's not like it's Finnish or Korean!

[Prinsara]

Then since there is no monarchy in Greece, people in Greece who are so inclined can have an attachment to Nik and Tatiana as de facto royals and legacy guiders, and Pavlos and his family can do whatever they want.

Everyone is free to choose when the rules don't apply anymore.

[tihkon2]

Originally Posted by Prinsara

Then since there is no monarchy in Greece, people in Greece who are so inclined can have an attachment to Nik and Tatiana as de facto royals and legacy guiders, and Pavlos and his family can do whatever they want.

Everyone is free to choose when the rules don't apply anymore.

Sure. Why not? Maybe Pavlos still cares, but I bet MC and the kids don't give one single damn. They'll use their titles when they want, and enjoy their lives.