Maria-Olympia, Konstantinos, Achileas, Odysseas, Aristidis Events & News 1: 2015-2021


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LE: I mean Constantine Alexios' instagram is literally "alexiosgreece". I can just see a Greek person rightly exclaiming "Ela re, 'greece', the guy doesn't live here or speak the language". He's claiming something that he's not willing to bear any responsibility for. At least Prince Boris, as you pointed out the Bulgarians, makes no such attempt of flaunting his royal status, and he simply goes by Boris de Sajonia-Coburgo-Gotha y Ungría (his instagram is Boris Saxe-Coburg or "borissaxe"- not "borisbulgaria"). Although it might be unfair bringing the Bulgarians in this topic, as maybe Prince Boris would have had a different path if not were for the tragic incapacitation and later death of his father, Prince Kardam.

He's claiming "alexiosgreece" the same way his aunt acts as "Theodora Greece" -- as a last name. Because they don't have another one and King Constantine has never gone for "Glucksborg".

You can be annoyed as you want over their obligations to a role and country that doesn't much care for them, but it ought to be separated from day-to-day realities. Like needing something for a surname.
 
One could also cite a long list of royals who were stripped of their titles, whether they abided by the decision or not. Germany preserved the title of their Kaiser, but Austria did not. Portugal allowed King Manuel to maintain his title, but King Miguel was stripped of his by Parliament. The Kingdom of Italy continued to recognize the titles of the deposed royal family of the Two Sicilies, but the Republic of Italy officially does not.
It can certainly be argued, but as she does so with the recognition and support of the reigning Romanian state which allocates her a quasi-official role, it is not unlawful and many of the issues in the Greek case do not apply.
If new people in power reckognize titles or not doesn`t necessary mean anything to those who are the holder of these titles! I also would not let anyone else dictate as by what name I would be reckognized or what I woul be called! That´s their point of view, others see it differently.
And no, "Custodian Margarita" is not a Majesty as long as Romania is officially a republic and as long as she neither assumes the titles of an "Empress" or "Queen" which are the only two ranks on this planet a person can be called a "Majesty"! Majesties are only held by persons, and by these persons only, who are, or were, monarchs of an Empire or Kingdom.
Margarita has a rightful title indeed - she was born a daughter of a -former- royal sovereign, so she is a Royal Highness, as long as there is a Republic of Romania.
 
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While I personally do see it differently, from the point of view that no one should dictate what others are called, it would be perfectly rightful for Margareta to assume any title she desires (though she seems to be content to be known with the titles of Majesty and Custodian which the Government addresses her by).

He's claiming "alexiosgreece" the same way his aunt acts as "Theodora Greece" -- as a last name. Because they don't have another one and King Constantine has never gone for "Glucksborg".

You can be annoyed as you want over their obligations to a role and country that doesn't much care for them, but it ought to be separated from day-to-day realities. Like needing something for a surname.

But does the family regard Greece as a simple family surname or as a territorial designation? (The government apparently regards it as the latter.) There was a recent discussion about this issue in the British forum.
 
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While I personally do see it differently, from the point of view that no one should dictate what others are called, it would be perfectly rightful for Custodian Margareta to assume any title she desires.



But does the family regard Greece as a simple family surname or as a territorial designation? (The government apparently regards it as the latter.) There was a recent discussion about this issue in the British forum.

The Greek government makes fun of Constantine as "Degrecia", if I recall correctly. It's been a long-standing standoff that they will not issue the family passports because they don't have a last name and Constantine refuses to take one to be considered "Greek" and give in. I doubt either side will budge, but they're within their rights to use Greece if they want. Theodora certainly uses it as a professional name, and she could have picked anything.

Edit: For another thing, if it was meant to be a Greek claim or surname, which it isn't, wouldn't it be "h/ellas"-something?
 
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Maria-Olympia attended Annabel's - Halloween party in London last night:


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Olympia is in a short film/advertisement for Raffles resorts, along with her cousin Prince Nikolai of Denmark and other royals/nobles.

 
The film has also been recut into many shorter different spots with different voice-over, all of which can be found looking for "rafflesroyalty" or "raffles royalty" on YouTube.
 
The Greek government makes fun of Constantine as "Degrecia", if I recall correctly. It's been a long-standing standoff that they will not issue the family passports because they don't have a last name and Constantine refuses to take one to be considered "Greek" and give in. I doubt either side will budge, but they're within their rights to use Greece if they want. Theodora certainly uses it as a professional name, and she could have picked anything.

Edit: For another thing, if it was meant to be a Greek claim or surname, which it isn't, wouldn't it be "h/ellas"-something?




I assume Pavlos and Marie-Chantal's children hold US and UK passports. What surname do they use in that case?
 
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I assume Pavlos and Marie-Chantal's children hold US and UK passports. What surname do they use in that case?

Possibly. Is the Danish government not willing to keep providing diplomatic ones in perpetuity? I'm not sure anyone knows. But given Alexios and Olympia (I don't know about the other kids) use "greece" in their handles and their aunt works under "Greece", it might be in there.
 
The above statement is incorrect. The Greek government does not call the King Constantine, De Grecia, King Cnstantine has no Greek passport, in fact, the Greek government has no relationship with him, but they does not call him in any way, they are not competent to it. The politicians, some disparagingly call him Glücksburg and others, Ex King , for example Tsipras ,in the airport of Athens he called him, Ex King Constantine.



The general nationality law cannot be applied to the Greek royal family, so, the reside in Greece for a period of time, or assume a surname ... this cannot be applied to members of the Greek Royal Family, Why?because It was made a special law ,1995, whot withdrew their Greek natural nationality, and established special conditions. This law deleted their natural nationality to members of the Royal Family.
Among special conditions: a public resignation to defend monarchical values, it had to be public, they had to publicly swear the Greek constitution ... and others, such as a surname that the socialist government proposed it to be, Glücksburg (it is not surname) .

This law is marked by ideology of the Greek left-wing political parties , (They intended to regard the Republic as State's form of natural of Greece, and the monarchy as a foreign element to the natural State of Greece), in fact, the Greek right was absent from the debate and subsequent vote, considering that the law did not fit into the Greek Constitution, the Constitution, which prevents the withdrawal of the passport to persons born in Greece or on Greek soil.

As I say, the law establishes that even if the King fulfilled those requirements, he would not receive or recover his natural nationality( withdrawaled by this law). He could receive a greek pasport but no his natural nacionality. This is ridiculous, why, because Constantine was born in Greece, did military service and was Head of State ...
King Constantine just hopes that one day the law will be repealed, considering it unjust, he will never renounce his natural nationality, ever.


King Constantine has not refused to accept a surname, on the contrary in 2015, he requested administratively the license to live in Greece, the State lawyer, in the process, opposed it, claiming that the 1995 law also affected to the residence, but the Judge Sentenced:
-That the 1995 law does not affect residence
-That Contantine could be identified in the documents as Ex-King
-That Glücksburg, was not the surname of the Family (It refers to a Resolution of the Council of State of Greece, 1996)
-And that in order to identify him he would need a second name, the Judge, completing the law, recognizing that the family did not have a surname,she(the Judge) offered the King as a second name, the name of his father, Pavlos. King Constantine accepted it.
- In the administrative documents it appears as, Ex King Constantine Pavlos.

This resolution only has administrative effects, but as you can see, the King has not refused to accept a surname,. The general law cannot to be apply to the King Constantine and his family because there is a special law, 1995.
Prince Pavlos and Princess Marie Chantal have British passports and so do their children. Their surname "of Greece", it is in their instagram accounts
 
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