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09-18-2021, 11:25 AM
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This is what I say, Diane is not in her family tree, she is in her cousin's family tree.
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10-05-2021, 05:42 PM
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Maria Olympia cover on Hello Fashion UK
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUpFkd0gZE1/
"Introducing the Raffles social season with Her Royal Highness Princess Maria-Olympia of Greece and Denmark.
Having grown up between London and New York, Maria-Olympia is now busy making her mark on the fashion world. With a unique sense of style and disarming openness, she will charm you with her signature husky voice: “Just call me Olympia.“
https://www.instagram.com/p/CVDY8FDoicA/
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06-23-2022, 01:45 AM
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12-07-2022, 06:28 PM
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 This is what I always criticize about MC and MO. In interviews they always show contempt for the title of royalty (equivalent: this is useless), but then when it comes to selling or promoting their products in the media, "Princess, please".
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02-21-2023, 05:44 AM
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Pavlos and Marie-Chantal have given an interview to French magazine Point de Vue and are gracing this week's cover of the magazine:
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02-21-2023, 08:49 AM
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"I am not going to take on an official role". You don't say!!!! lol
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You are the new head of the royal house. How do you imagine this role?
- I inherited this role from my father, not associated with any responsibility at the state level, just at the family level. My role will be to maintain the example of the family. We will continue to be united and keep strong ties with our country.
What position would you like to have in Greek society?
The same to this day. I will never change my attitude. People will see me as I am: the family man, but I'm still Paul to everyone. I am not going to take on an official role, nor is my son Konstantinos-Alexios. All I can suggest to him is to follow his grandfather's example, to be a good man, as I hope to be.
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02-21-2023, 08:53 AM
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I don't think anyone anticipated a change and for the Crown Prince to suddenly become more of a presence in Greece.
His brother Nicholas and sister in law Tatiana are doing a fine job there and have just blended in.
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02-21-2023, 11:18 AM
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In conclusion, he and his family will continue to move in the circles of the International Jet-set, London, Swiss ski resorts... And sometimes they will go to real events.... In summer, in Greece.... I think he is sincere, it is his life, but I admit that this causes me sadness, I would like to hear Prince Pavlos say that he inherits from his father the historical legacy of his family....
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02-21-2023, 12:08 PM
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I take it to mean that he will represent his family when required but no more than that, I have no issue at all with this. He has his own life and doesn’t owe anything to Greece.
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02-21-2023, 01:06 PM
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In conclusion, he and his family will continue to move in the circles of the International Jet-set, London, Swiss ski resorts... And sometimes they will go to real events.... In summer, in Greece.... I think he is sincere, it is his life, but I admit that this causes me sadness, I would like to hear Prince Pavlos say that he inherits from his father the historical legacy of his family....
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I'm certain that Crown Prince Pavlos would have been delighted to be able to create an unofficial role as the guardian of the Greek royal legacy, but given how the political establishment views the family and have long actively worked against them that seems impossible. He, his wife and their children have built their lives abroad and without a complete U-turn by the political establishment I doubt that the family will ever return to Greece even part of the year. As time moves on even an unlikely U-turn would most likely not mean that any of them would want to return.
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02-21-2023, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Adda
"I am not going to take on an official role". You don't say!!!! lol
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We will continue to be united and keep strong ties with our country.
What position would you like to have in Greek society?
The same to this day. I will never change my attitude.
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I wonder how he is going to work on keeping strong ties with the country if he is not intending to change his attitude... As the current one seems to have minimal ties to Greece.
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02-21-2023, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JR76
I'm certain that Crown Prince Pavlos would have been delighted to be able to create an unofficial role as the guardian of the Greek royal legacy, but given how the political establishment views the family and have long actively worked against them that seems impossible. He, his wife and their children have built their lives abroad and without a complete U-turn by the political establishment I doubt that the family will ever return to Greece even part of the year. As time moves on even an unlikely U-turn would most likely not mean that any of them would want to return.
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While Pavlos certainly doesn't owe the Greek authorities anything and is free to do whatever he likes, his brother is part of the same family that was treated just as shabbily and has still managed to make a productive life in Greece.
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02-21-2023, 05:41 PM
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Didn' t Niko intend to go into politics in Greece a few years ago? You never again heard anything about that. Instead he works as a photographer or so or some other kind of artist.
To tell the truth I don' t believe he lives in Greece because he wants to keep some tradition going concerning his father' s former role as King.
For Pavlos it would ' ve been better IMO if his father stayed in London. Ever since he returned to Greece Pavlos felt some kind of duty to visit Greece a week per year or so. But IMO deep inside he isn' t interested in all that nostalgic dreams of his father. He just wants to end all that, live in London, New York or wherever and forget the past. He left Greece as a baby after all.
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02-21-2023, 05:51 PM
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I think Pavlos may actually do quite well as a transitional Head of the House - i.e. the one to take the family from "exiled royals" who act like the are still royalty to a former royal house who are more in the footnotes of history.
If Pavlos visits Greece once a year, attends some royal events from time to time(after all they have links to the Spanish and Danish RFs and maybe lose ties to the British) and can talk reasonably well about Greece (as a place and people, I get they have only bad things to say or would want to say about 'official Greece') he will do well and transition nicely into the time of Constantine Alexios as Head of the House - likely with little real any connection to Greece and more just as a notable member of high society who mentions his links to Greece as a novelty.
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02-21-2023, 06:35 PM
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The problem is that Pavlos and family quite like to be part of European royalty by attending events f.i. in Denmark or Norway. If he was consequent he should stop that in the future. But of course he uses his family ties as an excuse. Greece is for all the other royals completely unattractiv and has no Flair like London or Paris or New York. Most people connect it with the antique or as a touristcountry.
Another problem is that C and M were the last royal couple where both are direct descendants from two other monarchies (son of a ruling! King married daughter of a ruling! King) and therefore it' s even more difficult for the children and grandchildren to live an average life as Mr. or Mrs. Jones. It' s tragic that the Greek monarchy of all monarchies came to an end who had those perfect characteristics.
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02-21-2023, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Prinsara
While Pavlos certainly doesn't owe the Greek authorities anything and is free to do whatever he likes, his brother is part of the same family that was treated just as shabbily and has still managed to make a productive life in Greece.
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Prince Nikolaos and his wife live private lives in Greece without any even unofficial roles or any pretentions to any. Given that Crown Prince Pavlos says that he wants to keep the family's legacy alive I find it hard to see that he would have been able to do the same.
That said apart from visiting his mother and hosting the annual memorial at Tatoi I fail to see how he and later his son will be able to make any difference in Greece regarding the royal family's legacy.
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The problem is that Pavlos and family quite like to be part of European royalty by attending events f.i. in Denmark or Norway. If he was consequent he should stop that in the future. But of course he uses his family ties as an excuse. Greece is for all the other royals completely unattractiv and has no Flair like London or Paris or New York. Most people connect it with the antique or as a touristcountry.
Another problem is that C and M were the last royal couple where both are direct descendants from two other monarchies (son of a ruling! King married daughter of a ruling! King) and therefore it' s even more difficult for the children and grandchildren to live an average life as Mr. or Mrs. Jones. It' s tragic that the Greek monarchy of all monarchies came to an end who had those perfect characteristics.
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Why should Crown Prince Pavlos "stop that"? The European royals are his family and many of them are also close friends of him and his wife. He doesn't need any excuse to socialize with them.
Regarding the family not living average lives I put that down more to the Miller and the Flohr millions than their royal ancestry. Prince Nikolaos, Princess Alexia, Princess Theodora and their families live a comfortable, but normal upper-middle class lifestyle and that would most likely have been the same for their brothers had they not married very wealthy women.
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02-22-2023, 07:54 AM
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02-22-2023, 08:01 AM
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I think his children will spend even less time in Greece than Pavlos!
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