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Old 11-24-2007, 06:48 PM
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I read in the Robert Lacey biography that Grace did manage to get Jack's approval on his death bed. Also, Grace was viewed as the most successful not just because of her career and marriage, but she was the only one of the Kelly children that managed to get out of Jack's shadow and control.
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:23 PM
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I agree with you Zembla, I think Jack Kelly was jealous of Grace, she eclipsed him in fortune and fame. He was a very proud man and just would not or could not give her credit for anything she did since he never thought she would do much in life. I can't remember which book I read this in but he was quoted as saying "Out of all my children, Gracie was the last person I expected to support me in my old age" and then went on to say that no matter what Grace did, Peggy her sister, could do better. I'm pretty sure this was the remark he made when reporters asked him how he felt about Grace winning the Oscar for Country Girl. What a slap in the face for Grace! She must have been so hurt by that comment!
It's so true...and he was close to the Kennedy father to...he was the same way with his children. Instead of loving them unconditionally...they would pit them against each other while also competing themselves.
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:41 PM
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I also heard that the Kelly family was a very competitive one.
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:12 PM
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Also in the book 'Once Upon a Time' Lizanne Levine was quoted as saying about her father "This is the honest to God's truth, he just would not give Gracie a break". Lizanne was talking about how difficult her father could be. Also in the book 'Once Upon a Time' talks about how Jack was used to being the center of attention and when he would visit Grace at the palace, he was not used to taking a back seat to Prince Rainier. He only visited her twice before he died. A funny incident that was told in the book, Jack was visiting Grace and they were at the dinner table, protocol in the palace is that everyone must remain standing until Prince Rainier sits down first. Apparently that did not suit Jack Kelly and he proceeded to sit down first and said "Take a load off Ray" referring to Prince Rainier.
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Princess Grace of Monaco brought her American heritage to her new country when she married its ruling prince in 1956. Although her children are prince and princesses of Monaco, they are also descendants of a large and prominent American family. This article, written in the form of a letter from Princess Grace to her children, explores her American heritage and its effect on Prince Albert, Princess Caroline, and Princess Stephanie.

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Old 01-17-2008, 12:53 PM
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Such a beautiful and heartfelt letter! It really paints an endearing portrait of Princess Grace.
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What an absolutely beautiful letter. It sounds like something she would have said to her children, so full of love and emotion. I was surprised to see at the end that this imaginary letter was written 2 weeks before she died. I think if Grace had seen this imaginary letter she would have approved of its content. I wonder if any of the children have seen this. Wouldnt that be something? Thanks for sharing that with us.
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It's a beautifully evocative article, isn't it? The editors were hoping to get this article published a bit earlier, to coincide with the anniversary of the Princess's death. Unfortunately the new articles software kept throwing things into black holes, and it's taken a bit of time to get everything working. Also, Avalon was making heroic attempts to get copyright permission to publish photos of the Kelly relatives but unfortunately was unsuccessful.

Some relevant threads in the Monaco forums:

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ives-2396.html

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...aco-11735.html

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...-iv-12275.html
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Thank you all for the compliments. It is obvious I feel a strong kinship with the Kelly family, and I hope I can write something about Princess Caroline. Although no one has published a biography, we know so much about her, (I mean her public life obviously), so much has been written, how can one write from a fresh point of view, something that won't sound banal, overly flattering, commissioned as it were. It seems only her best friend could do it, if she (he) had any literary talent, (and her permission !) but it is well-known she doesn't have any best friend, at least she has said so in interviews, her lack of need to confide in anyone. How does one write about the mystery woman ? Again, I may just use some pictures to project my own interpretation of who she is. Had she lived in another century, or up until the mid-twentieth century, she would be the perfect subject to write about, with dozens of biographies to draw a composite picture, just like some of her favorite characters in history.
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I did enjoy the article. I was surprised but pleasingly so, because there was a lot of, it seemed, creative liberty, yet it was done in a wholly believable and credible style. I am trained as an academic and, therefore, this kind of approach is like a foreign culture to me, but I was engrossed in it from start to finish.
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What a lovely letter! Thank you for sharing it.
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Cool To Catch A Thief

That's a great movie,
To Catch A Thief,
the Alfred Hitchcock film
with Grace Kelly & Cary Grant.

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I've been searching the internet but just can't find a complete Kelly family tree. Has anyone been more succesfull? I also read Grace's brother died in 1985, that was only 4 years after his second wedding...sad!
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honestly I wouldn't even know where to start with the Kelly family tree. They are all Irish, right? So, that would be very complicated. If they were immigrants there would still be many of them in Ireland and could be spread out throughout the entire US. Does anyone know the Kelly's are all mainly still on the East Coast. Was their mother also an immigrant? I know some people with the last name Kelly, but jeez I heard that there are like 30,000 people or more with that last name. I also read it comes for O' Callaghan something and the other form is O' Kelly.
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I've been searching the internet but just can't find a complete Kelly family tree. Has anyone been more succesfull? I also read Grace's brother died in 1985, that was only 4 years after his second wedding...sad!
You'll find a fairly complete family tree (back to the 17th century) for Princess Grace on geneology.com.
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Old 07-12-2008, 05:30 AM
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Thank you smdouglas for the link to the Family tree of Princess Grace, unfortunatly it's not complete, I can't seem to find Princess Grace her brother or her Sisters on it, Princes Ernst August, Andrea, Charlotte, Pierre and Princess Stephanie's children don't seem to be on it either. Perhaps it needs updating? But thank you anyway!
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Old 07-12-2008, 06:33 AM
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Thank you for these pictures. I really do think Grace was THE most stunningly beautiful royal woman in recent times. Her beauty just shines through the decades - a really classic beauty
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Princess Grace's mother, Margaret, was the daughter of German immegrants. I don't know if Jack Kelly was first or second generation American. I guess the combination of those genes just made a perfect blend in Grace.
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:44 PM
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Here is some Kelly family information that I have been able to find on the internet.

Princess Grace Patricia Kelly Grimaldi
Born: Nov 12, 1929. Birthplace: Philadelphia, PA.
Died: September 14, 1982 in Monaco at age 52 of complications due to a car accident.
Caroline - Andrea, Charlotte, Pierre, (children of Stephano Casiraghi), Alexandria (daughter of Prince Ernst of Hannover)
Albert - Jazmin Grace Grimaldi (daughter of Tamara Rotolo), Alexandre Coste (son of Nicole Coste)
Stephanie - Louis, Pauline (son and daughter of Daniel Ducruet), Camille (daughter of Jean-Raymond Gottlieb)


Margaret (Peggy) Kelly Conlan (sister to PG)
Born June 13, 1925
Died age 65, Nov 23, 1991
Married to George L. Davis, div 1959,
Married Eugene Conlan, He died on May 2, 1985 - in Philadelphia of natural causes. Mr. Conlan died on the same day that his brother-in-law John B. Kelly Jr. died.
Upon her death, she had two daughters, eight grandchildren
Mary Lee Davis,(daughter) She eloped at age 15 and married John Paul Jones Jr., age 18. They Eloped to Des Moines Iowa and were missing for 1 month in September of 1963. She was a flower girl at Princess Grace’s wedding
Margaret Ann Davis, (daughter) married Richard E Roe., May 1965, Div. 1994. Margaret Ann then married Mr. Packer, (ex husband of her cousin Grace Levine).
(Margaret was Princess Caroline’s flower girl for her wedding.) They had three sons, Richard (Princess Caroline is his godmother), Gabby and Chris.


John B. Kelly Jr. (Brother to PG)
Born May 24, 1927
Died March 2, 1985 in Philadelphia
John B. Kelly Jr. died while jogging to The Athletic Club after his customary morning row. He was 57 years old.
His first wife was Mary Gray Freeman (former Olympic swimmer) now known as Mary Spitzer. (She appeared on the cover of Life Magazine on July 23, 1951). The couple had six children, including Susan Kelly Von Medicus, Elizabeth (now deceased) , Ann, Maura and John B. Kelly, III. He is married to wife Karen and they have two children, Katherine and Nick. Following his divorce, from first wife Mary, John B. Kelly married Sandra Worley, a banker, on May 28, 1981. They did not have any children together.

John B. Kelly Jr. represented the United States at the 1948 Summer Olympics at London, England, 1952 Summer Olympics in Helsinki, Finland and the 1956 Summer Olympics in Melbourne, Australia in rowing in the single scull (1x). And he represented the United States in the double skull (2x) at the 1960 Summer Olympics in Rome. Kelly won a bronze medal at the 1956 Games. He also won the gold medal at the 1955 Pan American Games in Mexico City. He served in the US Navy during WWII.

Lizanne Kelly Levine (sister to PG)
Born 1933( she is presently living in a nursing home)
Donald Levine (husband) (deceased)
Grace Levine Packer, (daughter) died October 1999 of cancer. She was divorced from Mr. Packer. After the divorce, Mr. Packer married Grace Levine’s cousin, Meg Davis Roe (the daughter of Peggy Kelly, Grace Kellys' sister.) Meg Davis divorced her husband, Richard Roe, to marry Mr. Packer. Grace Levine Packer never had any children
Christopher Levine, (Son) married to Mary Victoria McNeil. They have a daughter, Kelly Levine

Margaret Katherine Majer Kelly (Mother of PG)
Died January 1990, Linwood NJ at a convalescent home. She was 91 years old.
Grace's mother was born to Lutheran German parents, (Carl Majer and Margaretha Berg). Margaret Katherine Majer was born in Schloss Helmsdorf, Germany. Soon after the family moved to Philadelphia Margaret converted to Catholicism upon marrying Mr. Kelly. Like her husband, Margaret Kelly was a proponent of health and fitness, studying Physical Education at Temple university and later becoming the first woman to head the Physical Education Department at the University of Pennsylvania. She was also a model and cover girl.
Margaret Majer Kelly (1899-1990), University of Pennsylvania Archives


John B. Kelly Sr, (Father of PG)
Born October 4, 1889, Died June 20, 1960 of cancer, age 70
John Brenden Kelly, Sr., also known as Jack Kelly was one of the most accomplished oarsman in the history of the sport rowing. He was a triple Olympic Gold Medal winner, the first to do so in the sport of rowing. He won 126 straight races in the single scull.

Grace Kelly's father was one of ten children of John Henry Kelly (1847-1897) and Mary Costello in an Irish American Catholic family (originally from Kidney Lake, Newport County Mayo, Ireland.). He had been in the ambulance corps in World War I.
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Graces's sisters

I'm new to this board and I apologize if this has been asked, but how many children do Peggy and Lizanne have?
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