Rose Ball, Monaco: 2005 - 2023 - Page 95

Florestane · #**1881** 03-21-2016, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

It is very well possible that Charlène hates fundraising balls or diners. If you want to be charitative or generous: give. But not "in return" for a fancy ball, in your arch-expensive Dior dress, nipping Moët & Pommery Brut Rosé...

Caritas is best done in all discretion. I like it when I hear an anonymous donor gave something than counting the left-over after the costs for the Salle des Étoiles, the catering and the whole rambam.

Actually Grace was often bored as hell in the village which was Monte-Carlo. She was a cosmopolitan and saw in the Rose Ball an opportunity to be glamorous once again, posing with her Hollywood pals. It had little to do with "love for Monaco". That sugarcake fondant is already cracked by what we know about the real life of Grace. She was also an American, a Hollywood actress, she was known with the concept of rolling oneself in luxury with charity as a good excuse.

Charlene may well hate balls and galas - funny decision she made marrying a Prince if that's the case.

Who says charity is best done with discretion? Many people want to get dressed up, eat good food and have fun - if they're prepared to pay their money to do so AND also raise money for charity why shouldn't they? I find the assumption that the charity is just an excuse a bit smug and patronising. Not to mention the sniffy comment about Princess Grace being American.

The charitable organisation will take the money whether it's given anonymously or not. It doesn't buy more just because somebody didn't give it publicly.

Grace may well have been bored as hell - most people have periods in their lives where they get bored. So what did she do? She got off her bum and did stuff - charities, events, gardening, art, she carved a little cultural niche for herself towards the end of her life. She may not always have loved Monaco but she made an effort to be a part of it and they certainly loved her in the end. At least she was in the Principality for decent lengths of time, even when she was based in Paris with Caroline and Stephanie.

moby · #**1882** 03-21-2016, 02:51 PM

Yeah, no. I think some jobs require you to soldier on and do things and be out there whether you´d rather do them or not. Unless you´re experiencing some extreme medical condition, then you`re expected to stay at home, otherwise, you go out there and play nice.

I`m in the diplomatic field, Ambassadors and other foreign service officers attend the dullest, most boring/glamorous/sometimes irrelevant events because it`s expected. Most of these people are a provincial, introverted, humble lot but attending events is a way to make contacts that eventually help build your niche in your career that could ultimately assist in promoting your country. The Consort of Monaco is the top 2 diplomat of her country, ideally. I honestly don`t think there`s any excuse. But what do I know.

melina premiere · #**1883** 03-21-2016, 04:31 PM

on the events of the prince Albert and princess Charlene tread, I never read so many comments on Charlene. she had a lot of events since last november ,, read the events where Charlene was present , of course, january and february are a dead time where there are not a lot of events apart the Sainte Devote cérémonies which are more important for the people of Monaco than the bal de la rose where they have not enough money to attend to these rich events
Last year, Charlene attended other events at the palace, she prefers to give events as wife of the prince with Albert at the palace, there were the diner before the grand Prix and during the festival of the TV. there was a gala for the first time at the palace , the princess Grace foundation awards and it was a sucess and there will be other events in the palace , she was also present to the Red Cross gala this summer.notn a lot of comments about these events

The bal de la rose is not a state event , it is an event made for the rich people , which was made by the director of the SBM to attrack the rich people in 1954, after 1975 the raised money was for the princess grace foundation which was just begining. Of course Princess Grace was president of the bal , at her death, Prince Rainier gave the princess Grace foundation to Caroline, Albert is the vice president, Caroline became president of the bal de la rose as the prince Albert. it is why Albert is present to the bal de la rose.
I prefer to see Charlene present to the Sainte Devote cérémonies, the processions of the ' vendredi saint and fe la fete Dieu, last year, she was alone at the procession while Albert was present to the Cowes regates. to the visit to the handicaped people who attend the grand prix or to the visit to the school for Young children as she did 2 weeks ago.
But it is my own opinion

Florestane · #**1884** 03-21-2016, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by melina premiere

on the events of the prince Albert and princess Charlene tread, I never read so many comments on Charlene. she had a lot of events since last november ,, read the events where Charlene was present , of course, january and february are a dead time where there are not a lot of events apart the Sainte Devote cérémonies which are more important for the people of Monaco than the bal de la rose where they have not enough money to attend to these rich events
Last year, Charlene attended other events at the palace, she prefers to give events as wife of the prince with Albert at the palace, there were the diner before the grand Prix and during the festival of the TV. there was a gala for the first time at the palace , the princess Grace foundation awards and it was a sucess and there will be other events in the palace , she was also present to the Red Cross gala this summer.notn a lot of comments about these events

The bal de la rose is not a state event , it is an event made for the rich people , which was made by the director of the SBM to attrack the rich people in 1954, after 1975 the raised money was for the princess grace foundation which was just begining. Of course Princess Grace was president of the bal , at her death, Prince Rainier gave the princess Grace foundation to Caroline, Albert is the vice president, Caroline became president of the bal de la rose as the prince Albert. it is why Albert is present to the bal de la rose.
I prefer to see Charlene present to the Sainte Devote cérémonies, the processions of the ' vendredi saint and fe la fete Dieu, last year, she was alone at the procession while Albert was present to the Cowes regates. to the visit to the handicaped people who attend the grand prix or to the visit to the school for Young children as she did 2 weeks ago.
But it is my own opinion

We don't need to read her events thread - we know what she did. And comments were made.

How do you know what she prefers? Did she tell you?

Nobody said the Bal de la Rose was a state event. Charlene faithfully attended every year until the year before last - why not now? You were expecting her to attend this year...

The fact is she was very present in the life of the Principality right up until she had the twins, had some maternity leave and returned to duties. There has been a very evident reduction in the number of public appearances since last summer.

The visit to the school was 3 and a half weeks ago not 2.

It's weird. And that's my opinion.

royal rob · #**1885** 03-21-2016, 06:47 PM

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I am sorry but it is ignorant to say western Catholics don't observe lent. Many do, giving up something for the period like caffeine or sweets. Certainly giving up all luxuries is not common, but observing lent in some way is not forgotten

That is not to say for a moment I think that is why Charlene is not in attendance at the event.

I also agree with those who say this is a major event. It might not be a 'national' event like Devotee, but it is certainly like the Circus, one of the key events of the year for the royal family. It certainly gets a lot of press which when it comes to such a small country is important for their charities. Just because it is Caroline's patronage, doesn't mean it is something that the whole family shouldn't attend. Or at least senior members.

Lent is very much still observed in the Catholic Church but usually by giving up something you like such as sweet food or drink. Etc.

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noda · #**1886** 03-21-2016, 07:32 PM

I find weird Princess Charlene absences in many duties with Prince Albert, as well as her absence at Pierre and Andrea's wedding.
As far as the Bal de la Rose is concerned I personally think Princess Charlene left the limelight to her sister in Law Princess Caroline "Who stepped into her mother shoes" as Prince Rainier said years ago. The reason is mainly that Princess Caroline is the Princess Grace foundation Patron and She attend the Ball along with his Brother and her Family, as well as Princess Charlene left the limelight to Princess Stefanie and her family for all it is concerned about the Circus Festival. As simple as that.

sesa · #**1887** 03-21-2016, 07:46 PM

Truth be told, I could care less if Charlene showed up or not. I've avoided any thred about her and Pr. Albert for a long time now. If she shows, she's criticized for the dress she wore, the color she wore, her hair, all being appropriate, to flashy, to blah.
if she does not show, it's because she'd rather be with the kids, she wants a divorce, she's unhappy with her choice in life, blah blah blah.
I take it in stride. sure, she should have shown up to the ball. but it was just "another" event which she chose to support her husband. For whatever reason, no one knows. I hate the speculation.
I just came to look at the attendees and enjoy the pictures that we get, not speculate the reasons why she chose to do what she did.

Pr. Caroline: for some odd reason, I "think" I like her dress.
Charlotte: Ghastly outfit, ghastly color. and that cape thing??? ugh! hideous...
Tatiana: frumpy as always (nothing new there) (expected)
Beatrice: I am so glad that someone chose to wear a ball gown to a ball! (shocking) I just wish her hair matched the dress/jewels. (fabulous)
And as for the little one, her name is slipping my mind right now, age appropriate, but the dress confuses me with that black strip above her bust line. not very flattering. and was that the actual dress or was it an over coat and the actual "dress" underneath?? it was nice to see her there.

Fürstin Taxis · #**1888** 03-21-2016, 08:36 PM

^I think Alexandra wore a Chanel costume and it was inspired by Korean (?) costumes? That's why the belt is so high.

Edit: http://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebri...-fashion-2016/

http://hbz.h-cdn.co/assets/15/19/980...l-korea-52.jpg

Yeah, I was right about the Korean inspired outfit. Typical costumes from SK

http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/origi...15-8-40-38.jpg

GracieGiraffe · #**1889** 03-21-2016, 10:35 PM

To me, it is not odd to perform separate royal duties as a couple. What IS odd to me however, is for one spouse to be absent at events, while duties, are galas, where one naturally brings a date. This would include weddings, balls, etc. I've seen several arguments floated - she wants to be a mother first and foremost. Fair enough, but she hardly has such a grueling schedules that she can't take an evening away (especially considering the nannies and the fact they are likely in bed by 7-7:30 pm), or that she dislikes balls - she's the wife of a reigning prince and they hold TWO balls a year, I think she can deal with that and in fact has an obligation to do so.

If you don't show up at the wedding of your husband's nephew and you don't show up at a ball if your sister-in-law and her family are also in attendance, it can only mean one thing to me; there's a rift. Why, who caused it, I don't know. However, the rift seems clear as day to me.

royal rob · #**1890** 03-22-2016, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GracieGiraffe

To me, it is not odd to perform separate royal duties as a couple. What IS odd to me however, is for one spouse to be absent at events, while duties, are galas, where one naturally brings a date. This would include weddings, balls, etc. I've seen several arguments floated - she wants to be a mother first and foremost. Fair enough, but she hardly has such a grueling schedules that she can't take an evening away (especially considering the nannies and the fact they are likely in bed by 7-7:30 pm), or that she dislikes balls - she's the wife of a reigning prince and they hold TWO balls a year, I think she can deal with that and in fact has an obligation to do so.

If you don't show up at the wedding of your husband's nephew and you don't show up at a ball if your sister-in-law and her family are also in attendance, it can only mean one thing to me; there's a rift. Why, who caused it, I don't know. However, the rift seems clear as day to me.

I think you could be right I don't think Caroline would be a warm and fuzzy sister in law which of course is just MO. Sometimes there is no going back after a family upset which is very sad. They did all seem happy about the twins but thats not saying they all get on.

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C4A · #**1891** 03-22-2016, 12:45 AM

AFAIK she did attend the civil weddings of both Andrea and Pierre. She returned to Monaco for some events in order to allow P Albert to stay for Andrea's religious wedding in Switserland. Neither she nor P Albert attended Pierre's religious wedding, if I remember correctly. I will be surprised if there are bad vibes between the family members. And if that is the case I feel sorry for P Albert, since he will be in the middle of it.

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**iceflower** · #**1892** 03-22-2016, 02:35 AM

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Moonmaiden23 · #**1893** 03-22-2016, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

With all respect, a fundraising ball is hardly a "signature event"... The only real signature events are -nationally- the Fête Nationale and Sainte-Devote, and -internationally- the Grand Prix Formule 1 in the streets of Monte-Carlo.

But the Bal de la Rose is NOT just any fundraising ball. It is the first of THE two grand balls associated with the Principality and it's Sovereign Famiy...the second of course being the summer's Red Cross. It has traditionally signaled the beginning of the Spring social season in Monte Carlo.

My opinion is that it's a shame the family has apparently decided to divide up the two events with Caroline and her gorgeous children taking center place at one and the equally gorgeous wife of the Sovereign presiding at the second(IF that is indeed what has happened).

Before her wedding and the birth of the twins Charlene appeared at both. I don't understand why she still can't do that?

agogo · #**1894** 03-22-2016, 09:30 PM

Princess Alexandria is wearing Princess Grace's diamond choker necklace.

sophie25 · #**1895** 03-23-2016, 04:26 AM

God, is there any of Grace's jewels that Caroline DOSN'T have her mitts on?

royal rob · #**1896** 03-23-2016, 06:52 AM

Ha ha love your post

Fürstin Taxis · #**1897** 03-23-2016, 07:09 AM

Omg we get it, Caroline is the evil gold grabbing sister-in-law. Yawn..
I bet Caroline ordered staff to manhandle Charlene if she dares to attend. Oh wait, this isn't a Disney movie?

sophie25 · #**1898** 03-23-2016, 07:40 AM

I barely post about Caroline and don't really have an opinion on her but she's the only one of the Grimaldi's who wears Grace's bling ( and now her daughter too).Albert was very close to his mother so I just think it's weird that his wife's never worn anything that belonged to her. I also hope that Caroline doesn't own the stuff outright as she might pass it on to her kids and I would prefer that it stays within the Grimaldi family.

Florestane · #**1899** 03-23-2016, 08:16 AM

Grace's jewels were left to Caroline,.I believe, and Stephanie has worn some pieces, usually earrings. Grace didn't actually have that many jewels as she got many on loan. Caroline inherited Rainier's mother's jewels which she often wears.

royal rob · #**1900** 03-23-2016, 08:35 AM

Really I wouldn't have thought Grace would have been so short sighted. Surely she would have wanted them to always belong within the Prince family

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