Rose Ball, Monaco: 2005 - 2023

[Moonmaiden23]

I know that riding is incredible work...I am a great fan.

But I still think Charlotte is too thin....sometimes her head looks almost too big for her body.

She hasn't always been this way.

But I still think she is gorgeous.

[LovelyKate]

^ I think Charlotte's face is beautiful, her body is amazing, but there is something strange when we look at her. I prefered her when she had a more womanly shape (I don't know if these words are correct!) : she is a mediterranean beauty! I don't want her to have Monica Bellucci's body, but Charlotte is not a natural thin woman, she's born to have breasts, hips, to have a woman's body.
That's just my mind, but if Charlotte feels better in a thinner body, it's ok!

[melissaadrian]

Originally Posted by LovelyKate

^ I think Charlotte's face is beautiful, her body is amazing, but there is something strange when we look at her. I prefered her when she had a more womanly shape (I don't know if these words are correct!) : she is a mediterranean beauty! I don't want her to have Monica Bellucci's body, but Charlotte is not a natural thin woman, she's born to have breasts, hips, to have a woman's body.
That's just my mind, but if Charlotte feels better in a thinner body, it's ok!

She is only 24, she has been maturing from her teen body. Some teens are gangly and skiny, some have puberty weight. She is growing into the woman she will be. Not all people from the Mediteranean have big hips and tits. She is definitely not unhealthy skiny, yes she is skinnier then before, but she is an athlete. She works out a lot, she shouldn't have to eat twice normal, to put on some weight, so she looks more 'mediteranean' for people.

[fandesacs2003]

Originally Posted by melissaadrian

She is only 24, she has been maturing from her teen body. Some teens are gangly and skiny, some have puberty weight. She is growing into the woman she will be. Not all people from the Mediteranean have big hips and tits. She is definitely not unhealthy skiny, yes she is skinnier then before, but she is an athlete. She works out a lot, she shouldn't have to eat twice normal, to put on some weight, so she looks more 'mediteranean' for people.

Right! She SHOULD never be heavy at horse's back, it is very important. And I do not agree she is too thin, she has a delicate figure, she is built like this. He mother also has a thin figure, in comparison with Stephanie whi is heavier, but noone of the two sister is fat, both are thin and healthy.

[LovelyKate]

Oops, I never wanted to say that because she was half italian she has to have big hips and tits! I don't speak english very well and it's difficult to explain what I think.
I just wanted to say that as an half italian girl, she could be supposed to have a more womanly figure. I find her beautiful as she is, but I think she would be even more beautiful with a little bit of breast, of hips.
And according to me, Charlotte's weight is only Charlotte's own business, she has to feel good in her body, that's the only thing that is important!

[Princess Luna]

Charlotte looks gorgeous as always

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by LovelyKate

Oops, I never wanted to say that because she was half italian she has to have big hips and tits! I don't speak english very well and it's difficult to explain what I think.
I just wanted to say that as an half italian girl, she could be supposed to have a more womanly figure. I find her beautiful as she is, but I think she would be even more beautiful with a little bit of breast, of hips.
And according to me, Charlotte's weight is only Charlotte's own business, she has to feel good in her body, that's the only thing that is important!

Don't worry LovelyKate...you DIDN'T say that she "had to have big hips and tits".

Your English is just great, I understood you perfectly and I agree with you.

[Horseygal]

RIP Princess Antoinette - the family does appear as if they are conflicted between enjoying the Rose Ball, which Princess Antoinette enjoyed attending, and recognizing her passing - I wonder if the speech Andrea gave was some dedication to her?

[melissaadrian]

Originally Posted by LovelyKate

Oops, I never wanted to say that because she was half italian she has to have big hips and tits! I don't speak english very well and it's difficult to explain what I think.
I just wanted to say that as an half italian girl, she could be supposed to have a more womanly figure. I find her beautiful as she is, but I think she would be even more beautiful with a little bit of breast, of hips.
And according to me, Charlotte's weight is only Charlotte's own business, she has to feel good in her body, that's the only thing that is important!

Unless you are suggesting she needs breast implants and hip implants, she can't really help it. Small breasts are something people have, its not an issue of weight, cup size. And hips are for the most part about build, how your skeleton is. Some women are born with what midevil times would call 'child bearing hips' and some are not. So she either needs breast implants and hip surgery of some kind, or we'll have to settle for her less 'womanly figure'. It have to laugh that womanly in your mind seems to meet the midevil point of view.

[tdarlene]

Originally Posted by LovelyKate

Oops, I never wanted to say that because she was half italian she has to have big hips and tits! I don't speak english very well and it's difficult to explain what I think.
I just wanted to say that as an half italian girl, she could be supposed to have a more womanly figure. I find her beautiful as she is, but I think she would be even more beautiful with a little bit of breast, of hips.
And according to me, Charlotte's weight is only Charlotte's own business, she has to feel good in her body, that's the only thing that is important!

Not all women from called latin countries have a womanly figure as you put it, as not all the women from the northen countries are blue eyed, blond hair and tall, that's just a very deceiving image and was mostly created by hollywood and the media. I'm portuguese, a latin country, and I'm not that 'womanly' and am fair skinned and blonde haired.

[Moonmaiden23]

I don't think that is what LK was saying at all. For example about five years ago she didn't exactly have "childbearing hips" but she looked very slim AND feminine. And her chest did not look concave with bones showing through.

I don't think anyone expects Charlotte, who is an equestrienne, to be as voluptuous as the late Anna Nicole Smith.

She just seems dramatically more thin, that is all.

[cdm]

Andrea's speech (in french) at the ball:
Palais de S.A.S. le Prince de Monaco - Déclaration d'Andrea Casiraghi à l'occasion du Bal de la Rose 2011

[lazuli]

Statement of Andrea Casiraghi at the Rose Ball 2011
Rose Ball 2011
|
Ladies and Gentlemen,


While grief has struck our family with the death of Princess Antoinette, I wanted to be present anyway tonight along with my sister and my brother to thank you sincerely for the part that each of you took in our grief and we are very sensible to the fact that so many of you are here this evening to benefit the Princess Grace Foundation. Our aunt, Princess Antoinette was very fond of this Rose Ball and from all of us she is likely the one to have participated in it the most, I think your presence is a tribute you pay to her. While mourning her passing, I recall that she remains for us a warm and loving face, with a rich and eventful life.

She also leaves us the example of a life of service and charity work and that's the meaning of this event which should remain, as she would have liked, festive. She wouldn't have liked that this evening wouldn't have taken place because of her.

Your loyalty to the efforts of my mother touch me and I hope this evening will allow the Princess Grace Foundation to continue its action on the field for the weakest, poorest, hospitalized children and those who suffer.

Thank you all for your generosity and good evening.

I try to tanslate Andrea's speech myself. I hope idid a better job than Google...

[Moonmaiden23]

lazuli you are an ANGEL...thanks so much!

Yes, your translation is far superior to Google's!

[melissaadrian]

Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

I don't think that is what LK was saying at all. For example about five years ago she didn't exactly have "childbearing hips" but she looked very slim AND feminine. And her chest did not look concave with bones showing through.

I don't think anyone expects Charlotte, who is an equestrienne, to be as voluptuous as the late Anna Nicole Smith.

She just seems dramatically more thin, that is all.

Again cup size has nothing to do with weight. If she wants big boobs, she needs implants. Your bra size grows with weight, not your cup size.

And again getting out of puberty, lose the awkward teen weight. You can't see her bones, it is exagerating to call her anorexic looking. She has a tight stomach, which many women get from working out, but she isn't anorexic thin either.

[MRSJ]

Originally Posted by melissaadrian

Again cup size has nothing to do with weight. If she wants big boobs, she needs implants. Your bra size grows with weight, not your cup size.

And again getting out of puberty, lose the awkward teen weight. You can't see her bones, it is exagerating to call her anorexic looking. She has a tight stomach, which many women get from working out, but she isn't anorexic thin either.

But when I lose/gain weight my boob sizes goes up and down? What's that? And I mean literally the size of my boobs, not the bra size......

I think Charollette's body looks fine the way it is IMO

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by melissaadrian

Again cup size has nothing to do with weight. If she wants big boobs, she needs implants. Your bra size grows with weight, not your cup size.

And again getting out of puberty, lose the awkward teen weight. You can't see her bones, it is exagerating to call her anorexic looking. She has a tight stomach, which many women get from working out, but she isn't anorexic thin either.

Where on Earth did I even HINT that Charlotte "wanted big boobs?" or didn't want them?? And where did I even mention CUP SIZE?

And where did I say she looks anorexic?

I simply said she has lost so much weight her chest looks concave. It's the opinion I have drawn from seeing photos of the girl on the beach. Just because I think someone looks too thin does not mean I think they are anorexic. Charlotte looks far from anorexic, but in my opinion she has become too thin.

You obviously disagree, which is fine. But there is no need to exaggerate, or plant words and phrases that I have not used.

[assia]

Originally Posted by lazuli

Statement of Andrea Casiraghi at the Rose Ball 2011
Rose Ball 2011
|
Ladies and Gentlemen,


While grief has struck our family with the death of Princess Antoinette, I wanted to be present anyway tonight along with my sister and my brother to thank you sincerely for the part that each of you took in our grief and we are very sensible to the fact that so many of you are here this evening to benefit the Princess Grace Foundation. Our aunt, Princess Antoinette was very fond of this Rose Ball and from all of us she is likely the one to have participated in it the most, I think your presence is a tribute you pay to her. While mourning her passing, I recall that she remains for us a warm and loving face, with a rich and eventful life.

She also leaves us the example of a life of service and charity work and that's the meaning of this event which should remain, as she would have liked, festive. She wouldn't have liked that this evening wouldn't have taken place because of her.

Your loyalty to the efforts of my mother touch me and I hope this evening will allow the Princess Grace Foundation to continue its action on the field for the weakest, poorest, hospitalized children and those who suffer.

Thank you all for your generosity and good evening.

I try to tanslate Andrea's speech myself. I hope idid a better job than Google...

very good translation !

[iceflower]

_________________


As the weight and breast discussion was getting too much off-topic, some
posts have been deleted, please try to stay on topic of this thread! Thanks!

[SASSY]

Thank you to everyone who answered my questions. Beatrice has a dancers body and seems quite the catch. I'll be paying more attention from now on.