grace had no sisters only one brother, lizanne was her mother
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Originally Posted by CasiraghiTrio
Is the bed and breakfast run by the Levine family in the Poconos?
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it was outside phila in the brandywine valley, Grace and her new beau after divorcing william b packer ran it till she died
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Originally Posted by cdm
I was just curious because I can't remember seeing pictures of Caroline with them after 1985.
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I know for a fact that after 1985 on a number of occasions that CAROLINE and ALBERT came to visit Grace AND Billy at their house in Gladwynne, Pa. On one occasion while Grace and Caroline were shopping in Phila. I had gone to the packer residence and left my father outside in my vehicle. While inside, a secret service agent approached the vehicle and asked my father for ID. While my father was flustering about, the agent looked up towards a second floor balcony where he saw me and I indicated it was my father and not to worry. I had previously identified myself to the agent at an earlier time during the week! My father never saw the automatic weapon under the Secret Service's agent's coat!
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1990s posted A REALLY altered view of the lifestyle Grace and Billy were living. Granted Billy and Grace partied somewhat, but they were in a very socially accepted circle and in the mid 80's this was the norm.Billy always said,
"If you're gonna hoot with the Owls, ya gotta soar with the EAGLES"! They may have been partiers but they were responsible for their actions and were not purveyors of the drunken sexual orgies Spada infers. He says he attended (I assume 1990's is a man) many dinner parties, so did I and I recall things a little different than what he posts, I don't recall GRACE heavily abusing drugs or alcohol!
I don't EVER recall Grace HEAVILY abusing alcohol or drugs outside of social use.
If you (1990's) indeed knew them and spent time at their house, I should know you and YOU SHOULD know me! I had been friends with Billy since 1981, and was there when he first started dating Grace. I am also friendly with her parents, more so with Lizanne! Your perspective seems QUITE extreme, given the amount of time spent with them.
It is an agreeable point that Grace's death was tragic, way too soon for such an endearing friend!
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Originally Posted by rrinvan
Lizanne and her daughter Grace were quoted a lot on James Spada's book.
As much as the over-all approach of this biography was to unearth Grace's alleged sexual nature behind her virginal facade --
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This guy Spada what a piece of work!
Grace was always the warmest, wittiest and engaging person I have EVER met, and to say she was a vixen behind a false virginal facade?
Put another rock in your pipe James!
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