Daniel's Future: Discussion (his role, title, orders, pressure etc.)

[mktv2000]

Her title is "Queen"

[hrhcp]

I was afraid you were going to say that.

I was trying to work up an excuse for Daniel to go around and let himself be called "King Consort".

I mean, if the wive of a king is allowed to call herself queen, how fair is it for the husband of a queen to be called a prince consort?

[Lena]

If the king would act more charming, would the press immediately start to write nice things about him? Or when the press would write nice articles on him, would he start to act friendlier.
IMO it´s not just the fault of the press, or Carl Gustaf´s "boring" look. There are kings, who get positive feedback!

The same for Daniel Westling. Would he smile and start to stop his angry looks, if they would write nice things about him and would they write in a nicer way about him, when he would smile???

[MoonlightRhapsody]

You know, I'm getting the impressions that the media isn't too fond of Daniel very much. I'm sure he smiles more often, but I guess those pictures aren't as profitable as catching him in a bad mood. I often wonder just how much the media likes to twist things to their advantage.

[hrhcp]

Originally Posted by Lena

Yes, but who should start? The king

When I see pictures of the King up to before the children turned 18, he appeared to be of good disposition.

What has compelled him to turn sour - lack of media attention ?

[Dennism]

I won´t speak for others but enlightened opinion has told me that the king is rather bored in his job. Think about it. He has had this job for 31 years. He has known that he would get that job for another 20 years before that. Maybe just a bit of boredom is creeping in. Also there´s the point of the media. He rarely gives interviews as has been noted before and I have a feeling that photographers belong for him on the Dante´s 9th circle of hell as well. Not least of all because of all of the trouble they have caused his family through the years. A protective father. We should admire that. I recall reading a book that there was an incident a few years after he and Silvia were married where he was light-hearted or spontaneous(think of Mary´s flying hat) and in the book, they said that Silvia largely loosened him up as we say in the American vernacular and that such a moment could never have happened before they were married. Also we know that two of his children have had a certain shyness about them. And even Madeleine, bless her, I suspect there is something shy about her that will come closer to the surface as the years pass. This shyness is no doubt inherited from their father.

[Idriel]

Hi!
I would like to know if swedes are happy about DW becoming their next Prince Consort.
Is he popular?
I don't want to be mean but I really don't like him, so what's the feeling in Sweden?
Thankx

[Lena]

Originally Posted by Idriel

Hi!
I would like to know if swedes are happy about DW becoming their next Prince Consort.
Is he popular?
I don't want to be mean but I really don't like him, so what's the feeling in Sweden?
Thankx

I think the Swedes here should answer this. We had this before, but maybe the public opinion has changed?

[Lena]

Article on Daniel and his business:
http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=298915

Fast translation by me:

Now Daniel wants to become the king of gyms

Crown princess Victorias boyfriend Daniel Westling, 31, doesn´t think about being a prince one day
No, he aims higher than this. He wants to become king. The king of gyms.
Daniel Westling owns 70% (haven´t we read, that Benny owns the bigger part of the cake?) of the health and training-business Master Training. There he fell in love with a sporty customer-the crown princess.
Now he´s putting in two top managers for his business-Gunnel Edenius, Information technology-boss for Länsförsäkringar (union of insurance companies) and Johan Ericsson, MD for Catella Property and a good friend to Daniels secret advisor Mats Jansson, manager for the Alex Johnson inc. [...]

Closes every month with a plus.
In Dagens Industri Daniel Westling tells, that he has enlarged his business with one more gym.
-We invested money in it, now it looks good. We close with a plus (asset) every month for both places.
-The health care (fitness) branch is a bit backwards in Sweden in comparison to other countries. We want to reach a bigger target group, he says to DI (maybe to cheapen the fees could help )
Daniel Westling has been an enterpriser for 5 years.
-I love ("burn for" in the original text) that, what I do, I want to make decisions and I want to carry things out. To control/manage things and to get them running, this is my driving force. *

"Talks never about customers"
Daniel says nothing about it, how the development of his business was influenced through being Victorias boyfriend.
-We never speak about our customers.
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*Oioioi, the red marked text is either a smart strategy or it´s a stab directly into the heart of the crown princess.
I wonder, how this thing about the managers/advisors can be seen. Is he searching for advise because his business is growing so fast and so strong or is he searching for managing directors, so that he can concentrate on other things (???)

[Akilah]

I don't understand the problem with Mr. Wrestling. If he makes Victoria happy, then I'm happy for her and them both. I think young royals have learned that you marry who makes you happy not for lineage or names. Look Frederick, Felipe, Haakon and now Charles, they all have married how they loved in the end. I don't think that Wrestlings business deals has anything to do with anything because if they were questionable Victoria wouldn't be spending to much time with him. I am sure she has people looking after her best interest.

[mixer2002de]

Well but raising a business contradicts the expected engagement! As prince consort he cannot go to work at least not in a private business. If he would be state employed it would be well maybe ok I think. Even working at a private company would make the people suspicous I think!

[Lena]

Originally Posted by Akilah

I don't understand the problem with Mr. Wrestling. If he makes Victoria happy, then I'm happy for her and them both. I think young royals have learned that you marry who makes you happy not for lineage or names. Look Frederick, Felipe, Haakon and now Charles, they all have married how they loved in the end. I don't think that Wrestlings business deals has anything to do with anything because if they were questionable Victoria wouldn't be spending to much time with him. I am sure she has people looking after her best interest.

Hm, I think that´s here not the question. Ok, I´ve never made a secret out of the fact, that I would prefer an other guy for her. But in the end this really doesn´t matter. As you say it´s most important, that they are in love. And that both have an important "base" for the years, when the love will "weaken" (and it will). Then things like friendship, trust and passion for the things they do will count a lot.
And so I wonder (and that´s why I´ve marked the one part red) how Daniel will be able to deal with the complete change from being an independent enterpriser to being an hard controlled employee of the state and being inferior to the monarch (who will be later his own wife).
Ok, what I say here doesn´t matter for the two, but I though hope they will become happy with each other or at least satisfied.

[Danielle]

Originally Posted by mixer2002de

Well but raising a business contradicts the expected engagement! As prince consort he cannot go to work at least not in a private business. If he would be state employed it would be well maybe ok I think. Even working at a private company would make the people suspicous I think!

So what will he do if he gets married to Victoria? Accompany her on trips and set up a foundation or something?

[Lena]

Originally Posted by mixer2002de

Well but raising a business contradicts the expected engagement! As prince consort he cannot go to work at least not in a private business. If he would be state employed it would be well maybe ok I think. Even working at a private company would make the people suspicous I think!

Yes, here I´m with your Mixer. The DI-article doesn´t make it sound as if an engagement would come soon.
Well, maybe the interview is a bit older (??) or maybe this is pure strategy and Daniel wants to get out of the business with a "bang" and doesn´t want to give us too many signs in advance. Both are already giving many signs in their private life, so maybe he wants to be carefully with the business (??) Well, then it would be better not to talk to DI at all. I wonder, if he has any ideas, why he is interviewed of DI. Surely not because he is such an good enterpriser...I´ve checked their online archive. They haven´t featured any other gym. Even not the big chains, which own 10 gyms and more

[mixer2002de]

Originally Posted by Danielle

So what will he do if he gets married to Victoria? Accompany her on trips and set up a foundation or something?

Maybe I am mean but Victorias husband would be seen as the husband of the crown princess or later the queen if she gets queen. So he will have to handle with the fact that he would not be seen as independent person he just will be seen as add on of her. SO it will be a hard and long way to be seen as more than just the crown princesse's husband...

[mixer2002de]

Originally Posted by Lena

Yes, here I´m with your Mixer. The DI-article doesn´t make it sound as if an engagement would come soon.
Well, maybe the interview is a bit older (??) or maybe this is pure strategy and Daniel wants to get out of the business with a "bang" and doesn´t want to give us too many signs in advance. Both are already giving many signs in their private life, so maybe he wants to be carefully with the business (??) Well, then it would be better not to talk to DI at all. I wonder, if he has any ideas, why he is interviewed of DI. Surely not because he is such an good enterpriser...I´ve checked their online archive. They haven´t featured any other gym. Even not the big chains, which own 10 gyms and more

Yeah I agree that DI would have wanted to find out something else so maybe it was a lame excuse that they wanted to make an interview about his business...

[Lena]

Originally Posted by Danielle

So what will he do if he gets married to Victoria? Accompany her on trips and set up a foundation or something?

and making every now and then cheeky comments like prince Philip or going to Ockelbo for sulking like a certain danish prince (who didn´t go to Ockelbo of course)
My guess is, that Daniel will do pretty much that, what the other prince consorts did. But I think he will focus a bit stronger on charity, then they did.
I´m sure (when he is the one) he will end up with a sports foundation, helping/supporting children and teenagers.
Maybe he will do some health campaigns (against smoking, drinking too much, eating unhealthy, couch potatoes) and will act as Co-author of books.
IMO doing this he would feel like a duck in the water and this would be the easiest way to come to an arrangement with the other "boring" things he has to do (attending galas, watching plays in theaters etc.)

[Lena]

Originally Posted by mixer2002de

Maybe I am mean but Victorias husband would be seen as the husband of the crown princess or later the queen if she gets queen. So he will have to handle with the fact that he would not be seen as independent person he just will be seen as add on of her. SO it will be a hard and long way to be seen as more than just the crown princesse's husband...

That´s interesting. I wish we could make a "males only"-poll on TRF, for which only the male members would answer...answering the question, if they would want to do the job or not.

[Danielle]

Originally Posted by Lena

and making every now and then cheeky comments like prince Philip or going to Ockelbo for sulking like a certain danish prince (who didn´t go to Ockelbo of course)
My guess is, that Daniel will do pretty much that, what the other prince consorts did. But I think he will focus a bit stronger on charity, then they did.
I´m sure (when he is the one) he will end up with a sports foundation, helping/supporting children and teenagers.
Maybe he will do some health campaigns (against smoking, drinking too much, eating unhealthy, couch potatoes) and will act as Co-author of books.
IMO doing this he would feel like a duck in the water and this would be the easiest way to come to an arrangement with the other "boring" things he has to do (attending galas, watching plays in theaters etc.)

I know that I would be very upset at the thought of giving up my job (if I actually had one, ha ha ha), so I think Daniel setting up a foundation which kind of links in with his interests is a good idea. I don't know if I could see him co-writing books, but I could see him setting up fitness programs for children who are overweight, etc. Not only does he have 'expertise' in this are, but he will be doing a lot of good. But we never know; he could surprise us all and start up a "Music Appreciation Foundation" where he accompanies little kids to Destiny's Child concerts.

[Lena]

Originally Posted by Danielle

so I think Daniel setting up a foundation which kind of links in with his interests is a good idea. I don't know if I could see him co-writing books...

I must admit, I also can´t see him doing this. Then again I´m always surprised about his words in the few interviews, that he has given (of course it sounds better in Swedish than in the Lena-translations). His thesaurus is not that bad -well, after the many reports about his education, I´ve expected the worst :o

Originally Posted by Danielle

But we never know; he could surprise us all and start up a "Music Appreciation Foundation" where he accompanies little kids to Destiny's Child concerts.

Originally Posted by Danielle

Hahahaha, good one. I wish someone would give them a good sorted "music box" with many CDs and maye even some records for their wedding (just like the one MM and Haakon have gotten)
Well, I guess you (Danielle) and Alexandria would suggest an big full loaded ipod