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08-31-2022, 11:23 AM
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It's not impossible. Spain is an example of a European country that has seen its monarchy restored.
And this could also have happened in other countries at that time.
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Under Franco Spain was a monarchy but with General Franco as Generalísimo or Head of State.
Franco proclaimed Spain a monarchy in 1947 but never restored its monarch.
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08-31-2022, 12:45 PM
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It's not impossible. Spain is an example of a European country that has seen its monarchy restored.
And this could also have happened in other countries at that time.
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Like previously stated, Spain was quiet special case. Franco was dictator and regent of Spain which was formally monarchy without king. Imaginate interwar Kingdom of Hungary under regent Horthy. In democratic nation it would be almost impossible in many cases. I could see only Romania, Serbia and Montenegro restoring monarchy but even they seem bit unlikely. Bulgaria had too chances but Simeon II's stupidity effectively killed whole thing. And Albania too seems quiet unlikely.
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08-31-2022, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Blog Real
It's not impossible. Spain is an example of a European country that has seen its monarchy restored.
And this could also have happened in other countries at that time.
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The last time a country switched from republic to monarchy was 1993 in Cambodia, under the supervision of the UN. Even so, it didn't bring democracy because of Hun Sen's authoritarian rule as prime minister since 1998.
I think the country most likely to become a monarchy is Nepal due to protests calling for its restoration as of late. It's a fairly slim chance, however, because Gyanendra attempted to turn his country into an absolute monarchy when he was king, which doesn't sit well for many Nepalese. Next is Libya because calls for restoring its monarchy has gained mainstream traction, not because of monarchist sentiments, but because it was deposed by a bogus regime (the Gaddafi regime), similar to the Baltic states when they restored their pre-Soviet republics after breaking free from the Soviet Union. Even so, it's still hard because of the Wagner Group's strong presence in the country.
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09-01-2022, 09:00 AM
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I don't think I'll will see any future restorations in my lifetime!
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09-01-2022, 09:36 AM
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I don't think I'll will see any future restorations in my lifetime!
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You never know. tehre coudl be a High King of Ireland.
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09-01-2022, 12:35 PM
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You never know. tehre coudl be a High King of Ireland.
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Ireland is already so republican that probably France and United States are more republicans.
Realistically there is not many countries which would restore their monarchies and what longer a country has been republic, more implausible is restoration. Only few countries in history have restored monarchy and these have been republics only couple decades. England was under rule only ten years in 17th century after monarchy was restored. France had really shake system where it was monarchy, then republic and monarchy was restored couple times. Finally France became republic again in 1871 and it is now really staunch republic. Last monarch reigned over 150 years ago. Not really likely. Spanish first republic in 1870's lasted only few years. Second one lasted lesser than ten years and became military dictatorship. Cambodia has been republic only couple decades.
Only Nepal and some Balkans nations have even some chances to restre monarchy but even they are not really likely. Most monarchies were abolished over 100 years ago and these former ones are pretty republican nations now. Even some claimants don't think that restoration is possible.
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09-01-2022, 02:13 PM
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Ireland is already so republican that probably France and United States are more republicans.
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It was a joke.
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01-05-2023, 01:30 PM
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Is there any chance of restoring the monarchy in Nepal?
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01-06-2023, 12:25 AM
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Is there any chance of restoring the monarchy in Nepal?
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I don't know how likely it is but IMO it is more plausible than restoring of monarchies of Serbia, Romania or Albania. Abolition of Nepalese monarchy is only 12 years and last king is still alive.
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01-06-2023, 03:51 AM
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I don't know how likely it is but IMO it is more plausible than restoring of monarchies of Serbia, Romania or Albania. Abolition of Nepalese monarchy is only 12 years and last king is still alive.
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In 2001 nine members of the royal family, including King Birendra and Queen Aishwarya, were killed by Crown Prince Dipendra in a mass shooting during a gathering of the royal family at the palace. I can not imagine the Nepalese people longing for a return of this utterly dysfunctional family.
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01-14-2023, 12:06 PM
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Is there any chance of restoring the monarchy in Nepal?
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I understand your desire to see deposed monarchies restored, but you must also understand the reasons for their deposition, which is often much more nuanced than merely assuming radicals or traitors unjustly deposed them. In Nepal, for instance, King Gyanendra attempted to reinstate an absolute monarchy in the name of quelling Maoists, and there was the Nepalese Royal Massacre before that, as Duc_et_Pair pointed out.
Anyway, to answer your question, it's very low. Sure, there are protests calling for the monarchy's restoration, but they number only in the thousands and lack organized leadership.
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01-14-2023, 12:37 PM
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If France were to become a monarchy, which Pretender is chosen?
Prince Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou as King Louis XX of France
Prince Jean, Count of Paris as King Jean IV of France
Prince Charles Napoleon as Napoleon VII
Prince Jean Christophe as Napoleon VIII
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01-15-2023, 12:25 AM
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If France were to become a monarchy, which Pretender is chosen?
Prince Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou as King Louis XX of France
Prince Jean, Count of Paris as King Jean IV of France
Prince Charles Napoleon as Napoleon VII
Prince Jean Christophe as Napoleon VIII
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IIRC Orléanists are most popular among French monarchists. But that restoration is not going to happen so that not matter so much.
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01-15-2023, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla
If France were to become a monarchy, which Pretender is chosen?
Prince Louis Alphonse, Duke of Anjou as King Louis XX of France
Prince Jean, Count of Paris as King Jean IV of France
Prince Charles Napoleon as Napoleon VII
Prince Jean Christophe as Napoleon VIII
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Luis Alfonso de Borbón is only a pretender by selective memory. He is the most senior Borbón indeed, the most senior legal male agnate descending from Louis XIV. But his line solemnly renounced all claims on the throne of France, exactly to obtain the throne of Spain, by international treaty even, because the rest of Europe did fear a merge of two grand Empires under one Bourbon King.
This did result in today's former Royal House of France (Bourbon) and today's Royal House of Spain (Borbón). The same House but strictly separated in terms of succession rights. The line of Luis Alfonso only became interested in a French claim after his grandfather the Infante Jaime (eldest brother of Juan Carlos' father) renounced as Heir of Spain because he was born deaf and mute.
The head of the former Royal House of France is Jean d'Orléans, a direct descendant of the last King. The head of the former Imperial House is Charles Napoléon, not at all descending from the last Emperor Napoléon III or from Emperor Napoléon I himself. His line descents from Napoléon's youngest brother Jérôme Napoléon.
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03-27-2023, 12:47 PM
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Restoration of Monarchy in Hungary has a chance
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03-27-2023, 12:49 PM
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Restoration of Monarchy in Hungary has a chance
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Yeah, sure, the Fidesz of Prime Minister Orbán has all power but suddenly they want to install an Austrian family as hereditary heads of state? I would say: dream on, folks. We will sooner see monarchies ending than new monarchies emerging.
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03-27-2023, 01:20 PM
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No chance on the restauration of a Monarchy anywhere,not now.Not ever.Alas.
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03-28-2023, 12:50 AM
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No chance on the restauration of a Monarchy anywhere,not now.Not ever.Alas.
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Restoration is pretty implausible almost everywhere but I never would say never.
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03-28-2023, 01:09 AM
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I’ve always said Romania is the only country with a whisker of a chance of its monarchy being restored someday, but nowhere else.
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