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Old 03-20-2019, 04:58 AM
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Where do you have that number from?
I can assure you there is no support for a monarchy in Austria. Most people would laugh their heads off about such an idea.

Otto von Habsburg was a highly respected man but even he had no chance to restore the monarchy.

And considering the last emperor/empress stole the crown jewels when they left in 1918 what kind of treatment should the Habsburgs receive?. That for any thieves?
I think it was already very generous of Austria to allow the last empress to be buried in the Kapuzinergruft.
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Old 03-25-2019, 10:01 PM
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Where do you have that number from?
I can assure you there is no support for a monarchy in Austria. Most people would laugh their heads off about such an idea.

Otto von Habsburg was a highly respected man but even he had no chance to restore the monarchy.

And considering the last emperor/empress stole the crown jewels when they left in 1918 what kind of treatment should the Habsburgs receive?. That for any thieves?
I think it was already very generous of Austria to allow the last empress to be buried in the Kapuzinergruft.
I mean this poll:
https://www.efe.com/efe/english/patr...00268-3809622#
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Old 03-25-2019, 10:06 PM
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Well, currently 5% of the Mexican population would support the nation becoming a constitutional monarchy, considering there aren't any real pretenders this isn't surprising.

On the plus side, there is a new political party known as the Imperialist Party seeking to do a restoration and judging from the photo there are at least young members so that's at least a good sign. I just hope they have a good PR strategy if they seek to establish a Third Mexican Empire which would rather be interesting in my opinion. Still, it is good to hear that there are still some Mexican monarchists after all these years and I wish them the best of luck.

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Old 03-26-2019, 12:59 AM
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Well, currently 5% of the Mexican population would support the nation becoming a constitutional monarchy, considering there aren't any real pretenders this isn't surprising.

On the plus side, there is a new political party known as the Imperialist Party seeking to do a restoration and judging from the photo there are at least young members so that's at least a good sign. I just hope they have a good PR strategy if they seek to establish a Third Mexican Empire which would rather be interesting in my opinion. Still, it is good to hear that there are still some Mexican monarchists after all these years and I wish them the best of luck.

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Its not an issue of heir. But the real lack of imperial history to restore. Besides colonial control, Mexico doesn't really have any deep royal connection to restore. There have been 2 emperors of Mexico, neither of whom ruled for long. One was emperor for a year, and the other for 3. They were both deposed and executed.

There is a claimant recognized by any imperialists. Maximilian Gotzen-Iturbide. The Iturbide dynasty are the family of the first of the 2 emperors, Augustin. Maximilian adopted two of Augustin's grandsons as his heirs. The eldest died childless. The youngest Salvador has female line descendants. Maximilian is the grandson of his eldest daughter (through his mother). He has two sons as well as a sister with seven kids. But Maximilian is a Hungarian-Australian business man with no interest in a claim, and only real connection beyond heritage to Mexico is a few business holdings.
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:41 AM
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Its not an issue of heir. But the real lack of imperial history to restore. Besides colonial control, Mexico doesn't really have any deep royal connection to restore. There have been 2 emperors of Mexico, neither of whom ruled for long. One was emperor for a year, and the other for 3. They were both deposed and executed.

There is a claimant recognized by any imperialists. Maximilian Gotzen-Iturbide. The Iturbide dynasty are the family of the first of the 2 emperors, Augustin. Maximilian adopted two of Augustin's grandsons as his heirs. The eldest died childless. The youngest Salvador has female line descendants. Maximilian is the grandson of his eldest daughter (through his mother). He has two sons as well as a sister with seven kids. But Maximilian is a Hungarian-Australian business man with no interest in a claim, and only real connection beyond heritage to Mexico is a few business holdings.

The Spanish Duke of Moctezuma de Tultengo, Juan José Marcilla de Teruel-Moctezuma y Valcárcel is a descendant of the Aztec Emperor Moctezuma II.
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Old 04-27-2020, 07:13 AM
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With the penchant for political dynasties in the Philippines, it has a chance of becoming a monarchy. In fact, there's a political party there (though still unregistered) that's calling for the country to become a constitutional monarchy with the Head of State being the pretender to the Habsburg throne.

If the Philippines were to go towards that direction, it should rather go for someone who actually comes from the country and has no background as an elected official, celebrity, or is not from those conglomerate families. Just to be sure that the country doesn't end up with someone who is going to put themselves before the Crown. Probably someone from one of the country's indigenous groups could step up as monarch.
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Nowadays I don't think that such a situation is possible, there may be some political parties or movements that are trying this but the current world situation is too dynamic, everything happens too fast for a full monarchy to govern successfully.
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Old 08-16-2020, 08:07 PM
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Nowadays I don't think that such a situation is possible, there may be some political parties or movements that are trying this but the current world situation is too dynamic, everything happens too fast for a full monarchy to govern successfully.
I don't think anyone suggests an absolute monarchy governing a country.

But a constitutional monarchy like the Uk, Denmark and so on. Many of the former monarchies do have a small role in their country already. Like the Romanian royal family for instance. Making it official, and giving them some official ceremonial role once again, is the question really here.
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Old 08-17-2020, 04:05 AM
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Where do you have that number from?
I can assure you there is no support for a monarchy in Austria. Most people would laugh their heads off about such an idea.

Otto von Habsburg was a highly respected man but even he had no chance to restore the monarchy.

And considering the last emperor/empress stole the crown jewels when they left in 1918 what kind of treatment should the Habsburgs receive?. That for any thieves?
I think it was already very generous of Austria to allow the last empress to be buried in the Kapuzinergruft.
I did not realize that Emperor Charles I/ Empress Zita had taken any crown jewels. Were these crown jewels of Austria? Or were these crown jewels of Hungary?
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