Questions About Royals and General Miscellania

[Muhler]

I'd guess that would be unlikely.

If you are prince to Denmark, you are acknowledged to be in the line of succession and you will get a diplomatic passport. - No BRF members have that title.

If you have the title of prince of Denmark, you belong to the extended family of the DRF but you are not in the line of succession. And then you may get a diplomatic passport, depending on the political circumstances. No BRF members, perhaps with the exception of Prince Phillip (?) has that title.

As I see it the Duke of Cambridge would be considered a foreign ex-royal in the eyes of the Danish Foreign Ministry.
It would depend on the whether the BRF was removed legally or by some sort of force, a revolution, invasion or a coup. - In that case the BRF may still be viewed as the legal heads of state of Britain and should they seek asylum in DK, I can easily imagine they would get a diplomatic status, perhaps even a passport.
However, should the BRF be abolished legally then they are ordinary foreign citizens and why should DK (or any other country) offer a diplomatic passport to a foreign (and probably still British) citizen who may or may not settle in DK?

[Duke-of-Earl]

Thank you Muhler

[Iluvbertie]

Originally Posted by Duke-of-Earl

I apologise in advance if this is the wrong thread. I have a question, I've read somewhere that Denmark, upon request offers diplomatic passports to agnatic (male-line) decendents of King Christian IX of Denmark

Lets just pretend the BRF is abolished, would The Duke of Cambridge as a member of the Royal House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg and an agnatic decendent of Christian IX of Denmark be eligable for a diplomatic passport? What do people think of the Duke of Cambridge's chances of being offered a diplomatic passport?
Queen Margrethe II agnatic desendents:

Christian IX > Frederick VIII > Christian X > Frederick IX > Margrethe II

The Duke of Cambridge's agnatic desendents

Christian IX > Prince Andrew >Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark > The Prince of Wales >The Duke of Cambridge

Can I be a bit pedantic?

As this point in time, as far as we know, William has no descendents as he isn't yet a father.

The people listed are all his ancestors.

I can see the Danes givng the BRF passports based on their dual line descent from Christian IX (both The Queen and Philip are separately descendents of Christian.

Christian - Alexandra - George V - George V - Elizabeth - Charles - William (although in her lifetime Alexandra didn't have a claim to the Danish throne as females couldn't inherit - that changed in 1953).

Christian - William (George I of the Hellenes) - Andrew - Philip - Charles - William.

A lot would also come down to how official was Philip renounciation of his Greek and Danish titles. There is no real documentation or legislation accepting that renounciation.

My mother was working in the British High Commission in 1947, when the engagement was announced and still there in 1952 when The Queen ascended the throne and the information they were told from BP at both times was that Philip was still in the line of succession to both the Greek and Danish thrones and had him listed as a Prince of Greece and Denmark on some documents they used during the 1954 tour of Australia (internal stuff that was issued to staff - my mother still had friends at the High Commission at the time who gave her a copy knowing her interest in the BRF).

[Duke-of-Earl]

Thanks for correcting my post, regarding ancestors and descendents

[Duke-of-Earl]

My grandmother always maintained that there is no written record of Philip renouncing his Greek and Danish claims to the throne, and that Philip, his children and male-line grandchildren are Princes/Princesses of Greece and Denmark, and also there appears to be no record that the government of Greece accepted any verbal renunciation, if indeed there was one.
Whether this is true or not I have no idea.

[cdm]

More pictures of the little house in Laeken:
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Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

[CyrilVladisla]

Did Queen Alexandra of England attend the Chelsea Flower Show?

[cdm]

Originally Posted by cdm

A lot of little royals have/had their own house:

Queen Elizabeth's little house is called Y Bwthyn Bach and was a gift of the Welsh people:
A Wendy house fit for a Queen: The secrets and history of the tiny Welsh cottage in the grounds of Windsor where generations of royals have played | Mail Online

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=51.438...0Bwthyn%20Bach

The swedish Haga princesses and King Carl Gustaf and now little Estelle
Playhouse for King Carl XVI Gustav and his sisters they got of Grandfather King Gustav V in late 1940´s | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Playhouse i the garden og Haga Castle | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

A little cottage at Solliden Slott (but I'm not sure wether this is a playhouse or not)
Solliden | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Princesses Margaretha, Martha (became Queen of Norway) and Astrid (became Queen of Belgium) first had a wooden yellow house and later a white plaster one at their home Villa Fridhem.
Lekstugearkivet/Archive for children's playhouses.htm
(you have to scroll down a bit)

The playhouse Queen Astrid of Belgium had built for Joséphine-Charlotte, Baudouin and Albert in the gardens of the Castle of Laeken after her own in Sweden. It was used to celebrate Princess Elisabeth's first birthday in 2002.
http://asp.gva.be/dossiers/-e/elisabeth/fotoE4.asp (scroll down a bit)

Princess Isabella of Denmark's little house at Fredensborg
Danish Royal Watchers: Isabella's new playhouse

William and Harry's (and now George and Charlotte's)playhouse at Highgrove
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...8109466220.jpg

[CyrilVladisla]

Would it have been possible for Philip II to have been both King of Spain and Holy Roman Emperor if his Uncle Ferdinand I had not been Holy Roman Emperor?

[KMD]

Just wondering. Does anyone know what the current crop of European and British royals call their parents and parents in law?

[Muhler]

QMII - Mor (mother) by her sons. Daisy by other relatives. Not sure what Mary and our Marie call her.

Frederik - Far (dad) Not sure what Mary calls him.

Mary - Mor. Frederik has been heard to call her Maz. (Not sure about the spelling.)

[JR76]

Originally Posted by KMD

Just wondering. Does anyone know what the current crop of European and British royals call their parents and parents in law?

I know that Frederik and Joachim of Denmark calls their parents "papa" and "mor" which is mum and dad in French respectively in Danish while the three children of the King and Queen of Sweden call their parents "mamma" and "pappa" which is mummy and daddy in Swedish.
In the same vein the Danish Royal grandchildren call their grandparents "grandpapa" and "farmor".

[KMD]

Does anyone know what those who have married into Royal families call their in-laws? Are they invited to call them something familiar, or do they have to remain respectful and formal?

[Tatiana Maria]

What is the convention for addressing parents and parents-in-law in the above-mentioned countries, i.e., are the forms of address used by the royals in keeping with the normal practices of their culture?

Originally Posted by norwegianne

Belgium became a monarchy of its own when the heir to the throne of the Netherlands was a female, as far as I understand it. The line to the throne back then in Belgium could only come to a male.

Originally Posted by The Watcher

No, that was Luxembourg when Wilhelmina became the Dutch Queen.

Belgium became independent from The Netherlands in 1830 after the Belgian Revolution.

The throne of Luxembourg could come to a female at the time, but Wilhelmina of the Netherlands was not first in line to the throne of Luxembourg. A fuller explanation: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ml#post2063732

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

What is the convention for addressing parents and parents-in-law in the above-mentioned countries, i.e., are the forms of address used by the royals in keeping with the normal practices of their culture? [/url]

In DK and Sweden?

In DK there are no conventions in regards to parents-in-law, it's first name and sometimes (at least with me) svigerfar/svigermor = mother-in-law/father-in-law, but that's more teasingly and lovingly.
I would never call my parents-in-law far or mor, that's something I would only call my parents - but I do often call my wife or speak of her as "mor", just as she sometimes call me "far"

As for parents that's almost universally "far" or "mor."

[paola]

Maybe this is a weird question, but suppose you are a Royal and you have (severe) fear of heights.
You are invited to open a 40-storey building and it appears to be done by surprise on the roof terrace.
What now? How do you solve that?

I come to this because I saw a photo with Princess Beatrix on the viewing terrace of our Euromast in Rotterdam.
I am afraid of heights myself and they don't get me up at that height for gold.

[Somebody]

Those things don't happen by surprise for royals :)

A member of staff would have checked beforehand what would happen and have nudged the organizers to a different way of opening the building. That is to say, royal activities are build around the specifics of a royal. If they can send Alexandra with her father for a state visit to Japan - so her mother doesn't have to go, I am sure, it's easy to avoid these kind of situations.

[JoanneRightly]

Watching the RBS game with Scotland v England, H.R.H. The Princess Royal, Princess Anne was in attendance.

The camera did not show her when the anthems were played, but is Princess Anne obliged to sing the national anthem, or does she not have to?

It might seem strange as she would have to change the words to God Save My Mother.

[Hallo girl]

She has been known to sing Flower of Scotland with great gusto. Great woman.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by JoanneRightly

Watching the RBS game with Scotland v England, H.R.H. The Princess Royal, Princess Anne was in attendance.

The camera did not show her when the anthems were played, but is Princess Anne obliged to sing the national anthem, or does she not have to?

It might seem strange as she would have to change the words to God Save My Mother.

Yes, most royals sing. Only exception: the Queen.

One can see that at the end of the annual Festival of Remembrance in the Royal Albert Hall. All royals singing God Save The Queen. Except the Queen, she then graciously listens.

Also for Anne her mother is The Queen. Like it is for a Betsy from Bracknell or for a Brian from Harrow singing in that same Hall.