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Old 10-16-2019, 12:18 AM
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Apart from the UK, the Vatican, Belgium and San Marino, In which countries can those not marrying into the royal family can still be ennobled? Can titles be passed between distant relatives akin to abdication in favor of?
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Apart from the UK, the Vatican, Belgium and San Marino, In which countries can those not marrying into the royal family can still be ennobled? Can titles be passed between distant relatives akin to abdication in favor of?
Spain.

And to note in 2006 Spain passed a law that introduced equal primogeniture among its nobility, not simply for the throne. Meaning the eldest child of the noble is eligible to inherit no matter their gender. Something we do not see in the UK and other countries with nobility. In Scotland (those titles created before the union of thrones) there are a few where a woman can inherit, but only male preference.

And yes the King still creates new noble titles in Spain.


In Spain the title does not automatically pass to the heir on death. They actually have to pay taxes to take the title.

No abdication per say but:

-the heir to the title has 2 years to claim the title following the death of the holder. If they don't, anyone who is a child, grandchild or male line descendent can lay claim to the title. It must be done within 40 years of the person dying.

-A noble can actually cede their title during their life time. But this can only be done with their subsidiary titles. Their senior most title must go to their direct heir (eldest child). We saw this with the Duchess of Alba who held the Guiness record for most titles. She ceded titles to each of her children.
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Olivia de Borbón is heiress to the the Duchy of Seville ,she will be one day the 6th Duchess,her father Don Francisco de Borbón is the current 5th Duke of Seville.
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Since 2017 and at 23 years old, Princess Victoria of Hohenlohe-Langenburg, 20th Duchess of Medinaceli is the most titled aristocrat in Spain.
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Since 2017 and at 23 years old, Princess Victoria of Hohenlohe-Langenburg, 20th Duchess of Medinaceli is the most titled aristocrat in Spain.
I always thought the Duke of Alba held that record?
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I always thought the Duke of Alba held that record?

The Duke has 39, The Duchess has 43.

If Wikipedia is to be believed.
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The Duke has 39, The Duchess has 43.

If Wikipedia is to be believed.
Indeed but wasn't the Ducal House of Alba mentioned in the Guinness World Records?
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I always thought the Duke of Alba held that record?
Yup well during the time of Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart, 18th Duchess of Alba she was the most titled aristocrat. Victoria Eugenia Fernández de Córdoba, 18th Duchess of Medinaceli just came in second.

But since her death, she ceded more titles to her children and also her heir the current Duke of Alba ceded some to his youngest son.
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