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For monarches far back in the history i have to say Queen Margaret I of Sweden, Norway and Denmark. In modern times i have to say Pope John Paul II, King Bhumibol of Thailand and Queen Elizabeth II
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Old 10-26-2016, 04:03 AM
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Most Successful Monarch

Hello,

this is my first post here. I look forward to discussing all things royal with you.

My question is who do you think rates as the most successful monarch throughout history and why?

Queen Elizabeth and Queen Victoria in the UK leap to mind as they oversaw golden ages and unified the country. Or perhaps Alfred for laying the foundations for a unified England. Who else from around the world?
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Old 10-26-2016, 04:07 AM
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I think a monarch is succesful when he/she passes the monarchy in a better state to the heir than at the start. In this framework I regard Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands as a succesful monarch.

She started her kingship in almost a street guerilla in Amsterdam 1980, under strong anti-everything tendences and passed it to her son in sparkling state and at the height of her popularity in Amsterdam 2013.
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Old 10-26-2016, 04:24 AM
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queen margrethe of denmark she was able to be relatable to everyone in her country a friend , a sister , a mother and a grandmother while still being regal .
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Old 10-26-2016, 07:35 AM
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When Queen Elizabeth passes away, she will make that list too.
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Old 10-26-2016, 07:56 AM
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In this age with only protocollary monarchs it will be difficult to find "bad monarchs" as their roles are extremely limited and ceremonial. So it soon turns out into a popularity contest. One can say: Leopold II was a great monarch because he did Grand Works in Belgium. Or Leopold II was a bad monarch because of the atrocities in the Congo.

But these days the royals are simply the puppets in their theatre of state, so what is "a good monarch" is hard to define. Is Harald bad? Is Margrethe good?

Some will argue that King Baudouin and Grand-Duke Henri were poor monarchs because they did not understood their place in the democratic constellation, when they refused to sign a Bill. Others will argue that these two are good monarchs because they remained true to their personal conscience despite the democratic majority thinking differently.

The question is hard to answer in 2016 with the monarchs only as ornaments of state.
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:49 AM
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True, though you could put the Swedish king in the list of monarchs that did not handle things quite as they should.
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Old 10-31-2016, 03:13 AM
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I think a monarch is succesful when he/she passes the monarchy in a better state to the heir than at the start. In this framework I regard Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands as a succesful monarch.

She started her kingship in almost a street guerilla in Amsterdam 1980, under strong anti-everything tendences and passed it to her son in sparkling state and at the height of her popularity in Amsterdam 2013.
Yeah, I agree. I think that length of reign is a factor too, and ideally stability should be taken into account.
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Old 11-06-2016, 01:23 AM
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I think a monarch is succesful when he/she passes the monarchy in a better state to the heir than at the start. In this framework I regard Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands as a succesful monarch.

She started her kingship in almost a street guerilla in Amsterdam 1980, under strong anti-everything tendences and passed it to her son in sparkling state and at the height of her popularity in Amsterdam 2013.
This i have to completely agree with it is becoming more and more common for king's and queen's to pass down the crown in much worse state than the got it handed to them. I was sat watching a Royal Family DVD the other night and it is astonishing some of the things our kings and queens have been through to get where they are today.

At the end of the day it's not easy being a leader of a country so we have to give them a little leeway.....
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Strong and powerful women, dedicated all her life to England. Saw this 2007 Movie “Elizabeth: the Golden Age” with Cate Blanchett . Many events of that period and life of the Queen are shown very natural. Really impressed, the movie touched my soul.
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"From Elizabeth I of England to Isabella I of Castile, many of the most memorable rulers across Europe over the last 500 years have been female."


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King Dinis of Portugal
As a capable head of state Dinis made structural improvements. A significant cultural first is the foundation of one of the oldest universities in the world, the University of Coimbra.
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Old 03-23-2020, 12:50 AM
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of all time implies throughout the world and history rather than relatively recently in europe as most of these posts are about

my list:
sargon I of agade establisher of the first mesopotamian empire
asoka of india spread buddhism throughout northern india
shi huangdi established the concept of a united chinese empire
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Gaivs Octavianus, better known as Augustus Caesar, (63 BC - 14 AD).

Augustus dramatically enlarged the Roman Empire, completed the conquest of the Iberian peninsula, North Africa, Egypt and the Middle East. Beyond the frontiers, Augustus secured the Empire with a buffer region of vassal states and made peace through diplomacy. He reformed the Roman system of taxation, developed networks of roads with an official Empire-wide courier system, established a standing well-trained Army and Fleet, established the Praetorian Guard, created official police and firefighting services for Rome, and rebuilt much of the city during his reign.

Not for nothing the era of Augustus is known as Pax Romana.
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Old 03-23-2020, 09:30 AM
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The greatest king should be the self declared King of the Jews, Jesus. All other reals have been crumbling or will in the future, but his realm was not of this world and will live on.

On a more wordly note: Frederick The Great, "Der alte Fritz", was the only german, who has ever been on the winner side of a world war. Plus: He introduced the potato to Germany, which became the most loved german vegetable, when the folks learned, how to make Schnapps with it.

Folks still lay potatos onto the grave of the great king. What is very fitting, considered, that he was a philosopher too.
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Queen Wilhelmina of The Netherlands!
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Queen Wilhelmina of The Netherlands!
And the longest reigning Dutch monarch so far,nearly 58 years!
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Queen Wilhelmina of The Netherlands!
Come on. She was the worst. She can not even stand in the shadow of William III or Frederik Hendrik if we have to name any Orange. Fleeing to London is not exactly the heroïcism which hangs around great monarchs. Her Court was the dullest of Europe. She inspired nothing. Not in legislation like Willem I, not in gallantry or grandesse like Willem II, not in promoting arts, sciences and entrepreneurship like Willem III. Was it not for the War, Wilhelmina's Reign was one long yawn of a control-freaked Spinster-Queen.
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Old 03-23-2020, 02:07 PM
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That is really hard question when you should compare thousands of emperors, kings, princes and dukes. And for me monarch shouldn't be called great very easily. Him/her should had achieve very notable things and ratherly even let his/her mark to history which remains yet long time after their dynasty/country has gone. Very good thing would be that monarch's country is in better condition prior his/her death than when monarch ascended to throne but that is not necessarily mandatory.



There is my picks:


Cyrus the Great

Founder of Persian Empire. Created largest empire which world has seen by Cyrus' days. He too created viable economical and political system and was pretty respectful towards local minorities which was quiet unusual on that time.


Alexander the Great

Conquered massive empire which included Southern Balkans, Anatolia, most of Middle East, Egypt, Afghanistan and parts of modern day Pakistan. Altough he was pretty militarist him had too respect towards local cultures. Despite that his empire collapsed soon after his death, Alexander left long-lasted mark from Nile to Indus.


Augustus

First emperor of Roman Empire. He managed create stable political system after Rome had suffered over hundred years internal instability and even some civil wars. His long reign saw rising of economy, stabilisation of the country and generally more peaceful era. The emperor too developed greatly Roman legistature. Augustus is still well-remembered despite that Roman Empire hasn't been exist anymore very long time.


Charlemagne

Charlemagne conquered greatest empire in Europe since days of Roman Empire. It didn't last long but its affect were felt always until 20th century. He too created legistature to his empire and managed help economical issues.


Margarethe I

United three Nordic monarchies as one "kingdom" which remained more or lesser unified until 1520's. She was very good diplomat too.




Frederick the Great

Frederick the Great made with his war Prussia great power which eventually united whole Germany. But he too made many other reforms in several areas. Justice system developed, freedom of religion etc...


Maria Theresia

The ruler of Austria made several reforms on economy and legistature things. She too helped make Austria more unified nation and more independent from Holy Roman Empire.


Catherine the Great

She made many reforms to Russian Empire and was victorious on wars against its neighbors. She managed maintain Russian great power status.


Napoleon I

His empire fell already before his death but still he is one of greatest monarchs in history. He managed stabilise France after years lasted chaotic First French Republic. He developed French legistature and was pretty succesful military commander. He wasn't flawless but he put his mark to history.
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