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Old 03-08-2021, 12:14 PM
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Since the elder was the King, I doubt they would call him by his first name.
Yeah after 1901 surely it was, but how about those years overlapped, 1895-1901?
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Old 03-08-2021, 12:49 PM
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Yes you’d answer what I want to ask, I am curious about how QV and Queen Alexandra would call them
Well, it isn't on record that future-George VI was ever called anything other than Bertie, or Albert formally, not even to distinguish him from his grandfather. I could see Victoria perhaps using "Albert" or "young Albert" for him, but I think "young Bertie" is also a possibility. Or perhaps just "no, not you" for whichever one!

Alexandra was well-known for infantilizing her own children in addition to being slightly quirky and silly at times, so she may have even taken it into "Little Bertie" territory when he was not so little (she lived till he was thirty), or worse.
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Old 04-01-2021, 11:10 AM
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In the European monarchies, the most exclusive orders of knighthood are those that are awarded in a single class (or grade). Nowadays, orders that fall under that category include:

  1. The Order of the Garter and the Order of the Thistle in the United Kingdom.
  2. The Order of the Golden Fleece in Spain.
  3. The Order of the Elephant in Denmark.
  4. The Order of the Seraphim in Sweden.

Previously, the Order of the Annunziata in the Kingdom of Italy and the Order of the Holy Spirit in the Kingdom of France were also examples of orders in the same group. All five active orders listed above and awarded by reigning monarchs are actually pretty exclusive; however, as I have noted in a different post, there is a considerable difference in their numbers of current living members (excluding the Sovereign, but including members of the Royal Family and foreign Knights). According to the Wikipedia (possibly imprecise):

  1. Order of the Golden Fleece: 16 (including 2 Spanish royals and 10 foreign royals).
  2. Order of the Thistle: 19 (including 4 British royals).
  3. Order of the Garter: 38 (including 9 British royals and 8 foreign royals).
  4. Order of the Elephant: 66 (including 8 Danish royals and 34 foreign royals).
  5. Order of the Seraphim: 88 (including 17 Swedish royals and 35 foreign royals).
Those differences may be explained in part by the different policies each monarch uses to decorate: (i) presidents of republics; (ii) foreign Queens consort, princes consort, Crown Princes/Princesses, and other junior princes or princesses; (iii) first ladies of republics; and (iv) members of their own Royal Family or Royal House.

In the next post, I present a summary of the practice followed by the current monarchs of Denmark, Sweden and the United Kingdom, and by the current and the previous monarch of Spain, with a few doubts and questions I have, which hopefully more knowledgeable posters may be able to clarify (note that practice in other previous reigns may differ considerably).
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Old 04-01-2021, 11:35 AM
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In the next post, I present a summary of the practice followed by the current monarchs of Denmark, Sweden and the United Kingdom, and the current and the previous monarch of Spain, with a few doubts and questions I have, which hopefully more knowledgeable posters may be able to clarify (note that practice in past reigns may differ considerably).

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