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Old 02-13-2018, 02:44 AM
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According to the following article "The Commonwealth has secretly begun considering who might succeed the Queen as its head, the BBC has learned.
The issue is hugely sensitive because the role is not hereditary and will not pass automatically to the Prince of Wales on the Queen's death
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Commonwealth in secret succession plans - BBC News
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:19 AM
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Hardly a 'secret'. It was openly reported as being a topic of conversation when Julia Gillard was Aussie PM and she attended CHOGM. She came out and said Charles was the obvious person to take the lead. She has been out of the PM's job since June 2013 so it was openly discussed as far back as then - so hardly a 'secret' at all.
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:22 AM
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Schedule of events for CHOGM 2018

https://twitter.com/_mio/status/959115322744889345
I am glad to hear that the Prince of Wales will officially represent the Queen at the opening of the Commonwealth Games in Australia. Will the Duchess of Cornwall attend too ? She is not mentioned in the tweet.
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:33 AM
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Whilst I appreciate other contenders for the 'Headship' may be considered [other than the Prince of Wales], who, realistically has the [apolitical] 'gravitas', and Worldwide 'profile' necessary ?
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:37 AM
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I am glad to hear that the Prince of Wales will officially represent the Queen at the opening of the Commonwealth Games in Australia. Will the Duchess of Cornwall attend too ? She is not mentioned in the tweet.
I suspect C&C will do a trip to Aus & NZ for the Commonwealth Games, and will do a few more events around there.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:25 PM
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The Commonwealth Secretariat has denied that a high level group of Commonwealth officials has met in London to consider who might succeed the Queen as its head.

In a statement, it maintained that the issue of succession was not on its agenda.

The BBC reported that the meeting on Tuesday would include a discussion of “wider governance considerations” which insiders say is code for the succession
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Read more: Succession of Head of Commonwealth role ‘not part of group’s mandate’ | BT
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Old 02-13-2018, 03:08 PM
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I am glad to hear that the Prince of Wales will officially represent the Queen at the opening of the Commonwealth Games in Australia. Will the Duchess of Cornwall attend too ? She is not mentioned in the tweet.
The news here reported, a couple of weeks ago now, that she isn't coming despite the invitation from the Qld government for both of them to attend. She has never been listed as coming ... only that both of them were invited.

There is also some bloke threatening to take them both to court to 'prove' he is their 'love-child' even though he was born in the mid-60s now claiming that he is the reason she has pulled out. https://www.newidea.com.au/prince-ch...day-speaks-out (a garbage rag by the way but it does have the story which has also been reported in other media as well).

Camilla - of course - didn't 'mysteriously disappear' but went to a Swiss finishing school.

It is also well known that they didn't meet until later and there are various reports about when Charles had his first full encounter with a woman - which again was much later.

But he can dream ...
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Old 02-13-2018, 03:12 PM
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This is a link to the Julia Gillard statement from 2013 Julia Gillard backs Queen's successor as Commonwealth head - BBC News in which she clearly shows her support for Charles and makes it clear that she wouldn't have said that in isolation One has to assume that her public statement followed private soundings. The mood music, for now, is that a body born out of the collapse of the British empire appears content to have an unelected monarch as its next head.

Of course the inclusion of the phrase 'for now' could mean that things have changed since 2013 but I doubt it.
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Old 02-13-2018, 03:28 PM
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There cannot realistically be any suggestion that HM should be followed by anyone other than Charles, and after him William. No one with a really high public profile across the world would exactly be lining up for it. Equally, a former PM of Australia or Pakistan or Barbados etc. etc. would simply not be able to bring to the organisation the kind of PR it needs to justify its existence.

Say what you like about the Commonwealth, the BRF play an enormous role in keeping it relevant. I suspect that, if you take away that personal connection, something would be lost from it. It's doing good things across a whole range of sectors and it would be sad to see it diminished.
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Old 02-13-2018, 03:42 PM
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I am glad to hear that the Prince of Wales will officially represent the Queen at the opening of the Commonwealth Games in Australia. Will the Duchess of Cornwall attend too? She is not mentioned in the tweet.

I have only seen confirmation for Prince Charles and Prince Edward.
My guess is that Camilla’s participation would depend on the length of the trip. She doesn’t handle long-distance travel well, so I assume if Charles is only in Australia for a couple of days she won’t go.
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:38 PM
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There cannot realistically be any suggestion that HM should be followed by anyone other than Charles, and after him William. No one with a really high public profile across the world would exactly be lining up for it. Equally, a former PM of Australia or Pakistan or Barbados etc. etc. would simply not be able to bring to the organisation the kind of PR it needs to justify its existence.

Say what you like about the Commonwealth, the BRF play an enormous role in keeping it relevant. I suspect that, if you take away that personal connection, something would be lost from it. It's doing good things across a whole range of sectors and it would be sad to see it diminished.
I think the problem with it being anyone other than Charles, William etc, is that it risks turning the position into a political position and therefore would lack the ability to unify an organisation of very, very diverse nations.

For example, if it were a rotating position between heads of government, there is no way Margaret Thatcher could have been acceptable to African and Caribbean nations given her position on sanctions against South Africa. Likewise some heads of state/governmanet may be considered to have unacceptable human rights records.

We only have to see from the choice of Olympic and football world cup venues how non-political decisions can become geo-political rows or open to bribery. What should be a simple decision based on who is best for the job, has the potential to become divisive.

I can understand the argument that Charles will only be monarch of a limited number of countries in the commonwealth (and William and George probably even fewer) and therefore why should he be head of the commonwealth. There is too, the uncomfortable reminder of Britain's colonial past. I am also generally predisposed against inherited titles and positions but, in this case, I genuinely believe the King or Queen is best placed to be the unifying force. Charles has spent his life visiting commonwealth countries and William and George will do the same over their lives. Who else would have had the contact with all the commonwealth countries that they will.
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:56 PM
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I have only seen confirmation for Prince Charles and Prince Edward.
My guess is that Camilla’s participation would depend on the length of the trip. She doesn’t handle long-distance travel well, so I assume if Charles is only in Australia for a couple of days she won’t go.
According to NT News (Northern Territories) Charles is visiting there in April. This is what it says on the page (further info requires subscription and I don't have one)

"PRINCE Charles will visit the Northern Territory in early April – soon after he opens the Commonwealth Games on the Gold Coast.The NT News can reveal plans are in place for the 69-year-old Prince of Wales to visit the Territory."
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Old 02-13-2018, 06:38 PM
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Cepe - small correction if I may.

It is the Northern Territory - singular not plural.

It is one of the two territories in Australia - the other being the ACT (Australian Capital Territory).

This is a link to a bit more - but be warned you only get a limited number of articles per month with this one https://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...768cc96b5b33fb

Given how hot the Top End gets I can understand Camilla not wanting to visit in April. I did so in June/July and was wearing shorts and t-shirts the entire time but froze at night unless in winter PJs and the warmest level sleeping bag I could get.
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:12 AM
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Commonwealth Birthday Celebration for The Queen:
Commonwealth plans birthday celebration for the Queen at the Royal Albert Hall
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Old 02-18-2018, 04:43 AM
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The Times has an article today saying that Harry will take on a senior role with the Commonwealth, particularly as a kind of youth ambassador. I was unsure where to post this but figured this was the best place.

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Prince Harry will take on an official leadership role with the Commonwealth in a bid to attract new generations to the organisation.

In a significant boost to his position within the royal family — and in an effort to cement the monarchy’s ties to the member nations — Harry is expected formally to accept a new role at the Commonwealth heads of government meeting in London, which will run from April 16 to 20.

Senior royal sources confirmed that the prince will play a leading part at the summit, which is to be hosted by the Queen.

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Harry, 33, is keen to carve out a distinct role for himself after his marriage in May to the American former actress Meghan Markle, 36, and he sees a Commonwealth position as a fitting tribute to his grandmother’s legacy.

It is thought there is already agreement among the Commonwealth heads for Harry to adopt a “youth leadership” role and he is expected to speak at the summit’s Commonwealth Youth Forum.

The move could also assist a smooth transition of the Commonwealth headship from the Queen, 91, to the Prince of Wales, 69.

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Harry may also take on an ambassadorial role with the Commonwealth Games. Charles will open this year’s games on Australia’s Gold Coast and had opened the Delhi games in 2010.

Harry’s involvement with the Commonwealth is strongly supported by the government. The Foreign and Commonwealth Office is keen to capitalise on his and Markle’s global appeal. In their engagement interview Markle said: “There is so much work to do in the Commonwealth.”

In October the couple will visit Sydney for the Invictus Games and royal sources have indicated plans to expand the trip into an official tour of Australia and New Zealand.

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Dr Sue Onslow, deputy director of the Institute of Commonwealth Studies at the University of London, said: “It’s a very astute move giving Prince Harry a non-political, global role, drawing on his charisma and energy to help keep the Commonwealth and its headship relevant to a younger generation. This is soft-power diplomacy.”

A royal source added: “Prince Harry has enjoyed his work on youth-led issues throughout the Commonwealth on behalf of the Queen and the institution. He will continue to expand on that and will be very visible at the heads of government meeting.”
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:59 AM
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Harry getting such a big role is amazing. Frankly I thought William would be getting such a role because he is a future King. I wonder if Meghan will be attending with Harry, especially for his formal appointment?
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:43 AM
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I think Harry is being picked for this role because it will include a lot of travelling and William, as a future King, will need to have most of his focus on the UK. That will be even more the case when he's Prince of Wales.

Equally, Harry doesn't have kids at this point so the travelling will be easier. I know he really wants kids but it could be a couple of years before that happens, particularly if Meghan takes a bit of time to come to terms with her new life. I know she's 36 but a bit of a gap between wedding and first child wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility.

As well as that, Harry has a personality that's probably more suited to this role - very outgoing, energetic, quite young at heart while I think William is more mature and controlled. Harry has certain freedoms that William just doesn't.
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:54 AM
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I think Harry got the role as he is so good with young people and also because he and Meghan need a role and W&K as future Prince/Princess of Wales and future King/Queen have a role making official visits around the world not just in Commonwealth countries.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:12 AM
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It might already have been in the works given that they emphasised the Commonwealth in the engagement interview. Seems a perfect fit.

As to the why Harry not William, it makes sense that William primarily focuses on the UK and representing the queen (and king in future years). At some point he will most likely take over the headship of the Commonwealth, so he will be involved with the Commonwealth as well but in a different role.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:48 AM
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Since Prince Harry will be involved in the youth forum, I wonder if Meghan will have a role in the Commonwealth Women's forum?
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