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Old 07-24-2019, 02:47 PM
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I thought BP was only open for August and September?


It’s open from 20th July, The Queen should be in Balmoral by now but the PM debacle has caused fine delay.
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Old 07-24-2019, 03:08 PM
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Here are some more photos from today:


** dm article: Boris Johnson bows to Queen as he becomes 14th PM of her reign **


** gettyimages/zimbio: Queen Receives Outgoing And Incoming Prime Ministers **
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Old 07-24-2019, 04:54 PM
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I don’t know if PM Johnson will last long ( nobody knows really), but, if he does, I suspect he will get along very well with the Queen
The Queen ensures that everybody thinks they get along very well with her.
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Old 07-24-2019, 04:55 PM
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The Palace opens for 10 weeks of the summer, once the Queen leaves for Balmoral in July. The Summer opening finishes towards the end of September so it can be prepped ready for HM and Court's return in October.

This year it is open 20th July -29th Sep.

The Queen has in fact been staying at Windsor since 20th July, allowing the tourists to visit Buckingham Palace as planned but saving her going to Balmoral then having to return for today's political events. She is expected to head to Balmoral tomorrow or soon after once all these new Privy council members and Secretaries of State have been officially installed. That may take some time as there has been a massive cull of cabinet members by Johnson.

Oh well that didn't take long.

Apparently the new PM's staff have given him a ticking off for revealing the Queen's comments to him upon his appointment as PM - apparently HM said "I don't know why anyone would want the job" and Mr Johnson told staff upon his arrival at Downing Street, who then told him not to repeat it.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...aring-18770110

Take it with a pinch of salt
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Old 07-24-2019, 06:22 PM
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Boris' girlfriend Carrie Symonds was standing in the crowd while he gave his speech at No 10. Is Boris's divorce final yet because 21st century or not it looks unseamly. If there is a wedding I expect Boris to pay on his dime.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:09 PM
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No I don't believe the divorce is final yet, I think there was some comment on the BBC about how it will be interesting to see what happens when Boris undertakes the traditional visit to Balmoral, will he take his girlfriend with him? If so, will she be allowed to stay with him at Balmoral?

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Old 07-25-2019, 02:25 AM
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Boris broke royal protocol shortly after meeting the Queen and becoming Prime Minister, according to reports.


Boris Johnson told off for breaking royal protocol just minutes after stepping into No10 http://shr.gs/aJKj67K


http://a.msn.com/01/en-gb/AAEOdAv?ocid=sw
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Old 07-25-2019, 02:31 AM
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Boris broke royal protocol shortly after meeting the Queen and becoming Prime Minister, according to reports.


Boris Johnson told off for breaking royal protocol just minutes after stepping into No10 http://shr.gs/aJKj67K


Boris Johnson ‘broke protocol by revealing what was said in audience with Queen’

Oh, Yes, Prime Minister, your Sir Humphrey is already here...
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:14 AM
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Boris' girlfriend Carrie Symonds was standing in the crowd while he gave his speech at No 10. Is Boris's divorce final yet because 21st century or not it looks unseamly. If there is a wedding I expect Boris to pay on his dime.
There's no way tax payers will be contributing to any wedding of any PM, except any extra security costs perhaps.
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Old 07-25-2019, 03:49 PM
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Boris broke royal protocol shortly after meeting the Queen and becoming Prime Minister, according to reports.


Boris Johnson told off for breaking royal protocol just minutes after stepping into No10 http://shr.gs/aJKj67K


Boris Johnson ‘broke protocol by revealing what was said in audience with Queen’
I'm not surprised quite frankly! ...
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Old 07-25-2019, 04:51 PM
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Boris broke royal protocol shortly after meeting the Queen and becoming Prime Minister, according to reports.


Boris Johnson told off for breaking royal protocol just minutes after stepping into No10 http://shr.gs/aJKj67K


Boris Johnson ‘broke protocol by revealing what was said in audience with Queen’
Bet my last piece of brown bread with apple butter on it that Mr. Johnson will be quivering in his shoes the next time he needs to meet with the Queen. Perhaps she'll give him "the look" which can bring down the greatest of men.
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:32 PM
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Apparently Carrie is not going to Balmoral with Boris

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.exp...i-Balmoral/amp

So far Carrie wasn't received by the queen at Buckingham Palace and she couldn't go through the front door of No 10. It seems odd given the queen relaxed the conjugal rules for her family and she accepted Camilla. These moves make her look like the PM's official mistress. I said in a previous post her being at No. 10 was unseemly mainly because of the circumstances of their union. But the cat's out of the bag since 2018 and it still looks like they're sneaking around.
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:45 PM
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Apparently Carrie is not going to Balmoral with Boris

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.exp...i-Balmoral/amp

So far Carrie wasn't received by the queen at Buckingham Palace and she couldn't go through the front door of No 10. It seems odd given the queen relaxed the conjugal rules for her family and she accepted Camilla. These moves make her look like the PR's official mistress. I said in a previous post her being at No. 10 was unseemly mainly because of the circumstances of their union. But the cat's out of the bag since 2018 and it still looks like they're sneaking around.
I think it would be somewhat different if Boris's divorce were final. She is currently his mistress.
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Old 07-26-2019, 06:49 PM
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It makes sense to me. I believe that at this time, Mr. Johnson's divorce is still pending and therefore, in the eyes of the law, the government and even the Queen, Mr. Johnson is still married. It might had been a bit different if they were both single or engaged to be married and out in the open as a couple but as long as Boris is still married, its a no go.
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It appears, IMO, that they are trying to downplay their relationship, "officially" at least. The fact that Carrie didn't walk into Downing Street with Johnson suggests to me that this is nothing to do with the Palace or HM but what they as a couple want (or what their advisors are suggesting)
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Old 07-26-2019, 07:34 PM
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I think it would be somewhat different if Boris's divorce were final. She is currently his mistress.
In the case of the German's former president his mistress was accepted by each and everyone -including the queen - while he is still married to his wife of 60 years (although separated since 1991).

But yes, I think that's the main difference (he is married to someone else; not just living together instead of being married to her) in this case - and rightly so imo. Camilla was surely not accepted by the queen as Charles' partner while Charles and Diana were married. Many years went by for that to happen.
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Old 07-27-2019, 11:37 AM
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How long does a divorce process in the UK? Is Boris' wife suing on grounds of adultery? I imagine Boris and his advisers are concerned if the wife goes on in court as the wronged party, especially after 25 years of marriage, this could get messy and potentially damaging politically for Boris. He didn't become PM by general election. If Carrie is being sidelined in areas I think the aides are concerned she has a scarlet letter on her in the eyes of the public. That means not attending Rememberance Day services too. Carrie may to go on image and reputation rehab like Camilla did; but apparently there is a bigger problem about Carrie

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...tners-17859061

I don't know if this is being investigated in any way but an accusation of financial fraud is pretty bad, especially if you are personally tied to the PM. This could have a bigger impact on the relationship than anything else.
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:33 PM
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...vern-twjmp657f

The Queen has privately expressed her disappointment in the current political class and its “inability to govern”, The Sunday Times can reveal.

The monarch’s views have emerged as MPs threaten to drag her into the escalating Brexit crisis.

It is among the starkest political statements the Queen is known to have made during a 67-year reign, when her views on the political climate have rarely been exposed.

The remarks underline her exasperation with the explosive political fallout from the 2016 referendum, which continues to divide the country and parliament.

The Queen made the comments at a private event shortly after David Cameron’s resignation following the referendum, but an impeccable royal source said her frustration had since grown.


Personally I feel this is less news and more stating the obvious from HM ;-)

Senior figures in Whitehall and royal circles say extensive talks have taken place between Edward Young, the Queen’s private secretary, Sir Mark Sedwill, the cabinet secretary, and Peter Hill, the prime minister’s principal private secretary, about protecting the monarch’s independence. The trio, known as the “golden triangle”, will “bust its gut to keep her out of any decision”, a source close to the Queen and Young said.

“The royal household wants to manage this in a way that doesn’t damage the ongoing, long-term position of the crown,” said a senior Whitehall source. It is understood that the constitutional unit in the Cabinet Office has been providing advice about the Queen’s possible role in Brexit.

Her aides are privately emphasising that parliament must decide who can form a government in the event that Johnson loses a confidence vote, and only then should the Queen be asked to see the new prime minister.
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Old 08-10-2019, 08:28 PM
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Absolutely stating the obvious from the Queen. She must be very frustrated at the mess that Brexit has caused her government and her country.
She must be very concerned about the whole thing.
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Thank you so much for the precis Tommy, I think there is nothing worse than reading a really good post and hitting a paywall when reading linked articles.

I don't know what to say about the leaked comments. True or not, it is much worse than Boris "I've met the Queen and she talked to me!" gaffe. Comments about lack of confidence in the duly elected government and opposition sends a dreadful message to the country during a time of instability.
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